The golden calf...Shavuot/Pentecost

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I'm realizing just how little I understand about the feasts and how much I've neglected to dig deeper into them. I will be spending a lot more time in Exodus 19-34, in the days to come.

I want to say thank you for sharing all that you have on the "ten commandments," and the feasts. It's been a real eye opener! I would hope that others are also considering all of these things. There hasn't been a lot of resistance to the thread so that in itself is amazing...:)

I think if people begin to really dig in to what's there, (even if it's to come against what you've shared) they will find the truth in it, and perhaps it will open some doors to deeper study of God's word, as it has for me.

It also reminds me of how something may not be what it seems even though we've always thought it was a certain way...how important it is for us to dig in and find out for ourselves.
 
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You must mean the second time after Moses broke the first set of stones, right?
The first time was in Exodus 32:7-8 after the first set of stones were given to Moses.
7 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go , get thee down ; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:
8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said , These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.

The way I read it is that Moses hadn't seen the golden calf yet until exodus 32:19
19 And it came to pass, as soon as he came nigh unto the camp, that he saw the calf, and the dancing: and Moses' anger waxed hot , and he cast the tables out of his hands, and brake them beneath the mount.
Oh I see what I did I just omitted the chapter in the 4th paragraph. . . .lol I wondered why you just repeated what I had said!
It seems to me that they made the molten calf before Moses went up the second time and it does seem that they were tired of his delay -

And when the people saw that Moses delayed to come down out of the mount, the people gathered themselves together unto Aaron, and said unto him, Up, make us gods, which shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt; we wot not what is become of him. Ex. 32:1
- isn't that just like man to run out of patience and then try to do things on his own?

And God saw what the people were doing and they had corrupted themselves - how quickly they had turned out of the way in which God commanded them. Ex. 32:8

31:18 And he gave Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.

32:15 And Moses turned, and went down from the mount and the two tables of the testimony were in his had: the tables were written on both their sides; on the one side and on the other were they written. . . . 32:19 And it came to pass, as soon as he came nigh unto the camp, that he saw the calf and the dancing: and Moses' anger waxed hot, and he cast the tables out of his hands, and brake them beneath the mount. . .

Ex. 34:1,4 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest. . . .And he [Moses} hewed two tables of stone like unto the first; and Moses rose up early in the morning and went up unto mount Sinai as the LORD had commanded him and took in his hand the two tables of stone.
 
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The plan of salvation is a way of life in Christ. It's daily from the day that we were born again. Live it according to the plan. Just an exhortation to all that read this. :)

2 Corinthians 6:1-2
1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.
2 (For he saith , I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold , now is the accepted time; behold , now is the day of salvation.)

1 Thessalonian 5:8
But let us, who are of the day, be sober , putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
 
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The way I read it is that Moses told the people that God said He had talked to them from heaven in Exodus 20:22.
22 And the LORD said unto Moses, Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have talked with you from heaven.

Then the only other thing God told Moses to tell the people was to not make gods of silver and gold. I don't see anywhere where Moses recited what we know as the 10 commandments.

LOL I can see the length of time in the 40 days also.

Does it appear to you that the tables of stone contained the format of temple worship instead of what we know as the "Ten Commandments," and that's when the golden calf was made? God knows what will happen before it happens, and by His grace He gives forewarning. I refer back to Exodus 20:23
23 Ye shall not make with me gods of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods of gold.
I am loving this thread, thanks Just-me and Least, so many good insights. this has caused me to dig a little deeper.

It seems to me that the people agreed to do what Almighty commanded...before they heard what what it was that He commanded. They agreed to do all He said without knowing all the particulars. They still had Egypt in them, and I find it to be a great example for us. We accept Almighty as our King and then proceed for the rest of our lives to learn how to please Him and obey Him. We have Egypt/Babylon in us to some degree, and a heart after God's heart yearns to be pure.

Learning Torah is meaningless without the "doing" of it. Deuteronomy 4:6 [SUP]6 [/SUP]Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.

...so, a person who thinks he is wise for reason of knowing only, is only wise in his own eyes.



After the golden calf, Moses realized what a great sin it was and even ask Yah to blot him out of the book if their sins be not forgiven, he wanted to atone, if he could, for their sin. (Exodus 32:32 ) and then we see Moses is not mentioned in the 20th book! (Tetzaveh) Wow!

...sorry for sidetracking your wonderful thread Just-me...carry on, this is fascinating!:)
 
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Oh I see what I did I just omitted the chapter in the 4th paragraph. . . .lol I wondered why you just repeated what I had said!
No prob sis. Just confirming what you had written to make sure I understood you right. Moses went up on the mount more than twice.

Exodus 19:20
And the LORD came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the LORD called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up .

Exodus 24:15
And Moses went up into the mount, and a cloud covered the mount.

Exodus 34:4
And he hewed two tables of stone like unto the first; and Moses rose up early in the morning, and went up unto mount Sinai, as the LORD had commanded him, and took in his hand the two tables of stone.
 
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I am loving this thread, thanks Just-me and Least, so many good insights. this has caused me to dig a little deeper.

It seems to me that the people agreed to do what Almighty commanded...before they heard what what it was that He commanded. They agreed to do all He said without knowing all the particulars. They still had Egypt in them, and I find it to be a great example for us. We accept Almighty as our King and then proceed for the rest of our lives to learn how to please Him and obey Him. We have Egypt/Babylon in us to some degree, and a heart after God's heart yearns to be pure.

Learning Torah is meaningless without the "doing" of it. Deuteronomy 4:6 [SUP]6 [/SUP]Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.

...so, a person who thinks he is wise for reason of knowing only, is only wise in his own eyes.



After the golden calf, Moses realized what a great sin it was and even ask Yah to blot him out of the book if their sins be not forgiven, he wanted to atone, if he could, for their sin. (Exodus 32:32 ) and then we see Moses is not mentioned in the 20th book! (Tetzaveh) Wow!

...sorry for sidetracking your wonderful thread Just-me...carry on, this is fascinating!:)
What is the 20th book Tetzaveh? Exodus 27 through 30?
 
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I'm realizing just how little I understand about the feasts and how much I've neglected to dig deeper into them. I will be spending a lot more time in Exodus 19-34, in the days to come.

I want to say thank you for sharing all that you have on the "ten commandments," and the feasts. It's been a real eye opener! I would hope that others are also considering all of these things. There hasn't been a lot of resistance to the thread so that in itself is amazing...:)

I think if people begin to really dig in to what's there, (even if it's to come against what you've shared) they will find the truth in it, and perhaps it will open some doors to deeper study of God's word, as it has for me.

It also reminds me of how something may not be what it seems even though we've always thought it was a certain way...how important it is for us to dig in and find out for ourselves.
I am about ready to post the last segment on the feast of tabernacles. It is good because it involves Jesus, creation, and the exodus in comparison with the New Testament. I think the church really needs tabernacles and all it involves today. Doctrines have neglected it, in my estimation. I hope you will enjoy. It is just the top of something very deep. LOL

On a more sobering note, as far as resistance to some threads, some people I have reported, and that helped. I didn't want to, but it was beginning to diminish edification to the max.
 
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Yes. Here is one link..it is the 20th Torah portion. It continues about Aaron, instructions for garments, etc. Moses name is not mentioned.

Tetzaveh Torah Reading - Parshah
Cool. I believe Exodus 25 through 31 is a substantial part of what God told Moses while he was on the mount receiving the tables of stone. It reads almost identical to the KJV.
 
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The way I read it is that Moses told the people that God said He had talked to them from heaven in Exodus 20:22.
22 And the LORD said unto Moses, Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have talked with you from heaven.

Then the only other thing God told Moses to tell the people was to not make gods of silver and gold. I don't see anywhere where Moses recited what we know as the 10 commandments.

LOL I can see the length of time in the 40 days also.

Does it appear to you that the tables of stone contained the format of temple worship instead of what we know as the "Ten Commandments," and that's when the golden calf was made? God knows what will happen before it happens, and by His grace He gives forewarning. I refer back to Exodus 20:23
23 Ye shall not make with me gods of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods of gold.

25) So Moses went down unto the people, and spake unto them. 20:1 And God spake all these words, saying:

"I don't see anywhere where Moses recited what we know as the 10 commandments." Now isn't that the ten commandments following in Chapter 20 vs. 3 -17?
 
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25) So Moses went down unto the people, and spake unto them. 20:1 And God spake all these words, saying:

"I don't see anywhere where Moses recited what we know as the 10 commandments." Now isn't that the ten commandments following in Chapter 20 vs. 3 -17?
I think the people heard God speak in Exodus 20:2-17, but in Exodus 24:4 I think Moses wrote them down along with the remaining words of God clear through chapter 23. Moses talked to the people in God's stead after Exodus 20:17 according to Exodus 20:18-19.
 

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,,,,,,,,attah ahhab shel qureb ha be am ahnee kakha ve kakha am Ahnee
 
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I think the people heard God speak in Exodus 20:2-17, but in Exodus 24:4 I think Moses wrote them down along with the remaining words of God clear through chapter 23. Moses talked to the people in God's stead after Exodus 20:17 according to Exodus 20:18-19.


EXODUS 19-20:25-1
25. So Moses went down unto the people, and spake unto them.
1. And God spake all these words, saying,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Looks like Moses was the LORD THY GOD
 
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EXODUS 19-20:25-1
25. So Moses went down unto the people, and spake unto them.
1. And God spake all these words, saying,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Looks like Moses was the LORD THY GOD
Moses was not "the Lord thy God." Read the full account from chapters 19, and 20. It's the same account.

Exodus 20:1 And God spake all these words, saying;...

God spoke the commandments to the people.

What Moses spoke, recorded in Ch 19, was about sanctification, and not breaking through the boundary set around the mountain, because they would die. This was three days prior to God speaking in ch. 20.

Exodus 20:18 And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.

(Same account as in Ch. 19.)

The people were afraid, and they say to Moses.

Exodus 20:19 And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.

I just want to make clear that when God told Moses to speak anything to the people, Moses was a representative. It was no different than when God told him what to speak to Pharaoh, and no different than when God told Isaiah, Jeremiah or any other prophet what to speak. When any prophet ever spoke what God told them to speak it was always instruction and to turn the hearts of the people to HIM. It wasn't always good news either. Moses never claimed to be God, in fact, none of the prophets, or apostles ever claimed to be more than servants and always pointed to God and all of them relied on God completely.

Here's an example where Moses requests that if the presence of God doesn't go with him, to "not carry them on from where they were."

15 And Moses said, If you yourself are not going with us, do not send us on from here.

Moses relied completely on God, and never claimed to anything but a servant.

Numbers 12:3 (Now the man Moses was very humble, more than any man who was on the face of the earth.)
 
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Quoting Just-me:
עֲשֶׂר דְּבָר= “ten commandments”
4 דְּ = (Dalet/Dal-Door) entrance, creation, the world, creative works
2 בָ = (Beyt/Bet-Tent floor plan) household, family, union, division, and witnessing
20 רֶ = (Resh-Head of man) the beginning of enlightenment to mankind, redemption.
Good morning Just-me and everyone.

I spent several hours going through each of the ten things listed here. I was working on it as I was responding to this and had several verses from throughout the bible that speak of these things, from being grafted in, adopted into the family, witnessing...etc...

I had about four pages open, and two from this message string so I could quote certain parts...and when I was almost finished, I closed out several windows..including the one that had all of the bible passages that spoke of each of those ten. :(

Anyway, there is so much throughout the bible on each of those things....I hope that anyone insterested will dig in to each word listed in the above quote.

I was also looking at refinement as part of the Feast of Trumpets.

The silver trumpets were blown to call the people to assemble, and to journey. Since Trumpets precedes tabernacles, I thought it would be interesting to look into what silver represents. (Redemption and refinement)

Numbers 10:2 Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps.

Malachi 3:3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness.

Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Matthew 3:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.


Deuteronomy 16:12 And thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in Egypt: and thou shalt observe and do these statutes.
Deuteronomy 16:13 Thou shalt observe the feast of tabernacles seven days, after that thou hast gathered in thy corn and thy wine:
Deuteronomy 16:14 And thou shalt rejoice in thy feast, thou, and thy son, and thy daughter, and thy manservant, and thy maidservant, and the Levite, the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, that are within thy gates.


I see a picture in all of this as refinement, (being purged,) and abiding in Christ. "The branch cannot bear fruit accept it abide in the vine."

And again:

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

During the feast of Tabernacles, the people were to dwell in booths for seven days. I looked up the biblical meaning of the number 7.

Seven is the number of completeness and perfection (both physical and spiritual). It derives much of its meaning from being tied directly to God’s creation of all things. According to Jewish tradition, the creation of Adam occurred on October 7th, 3761 B.C. (or the first day of Tishri, which is the seventh month on the Hebrew calendar). The word 'created' is used 7 times describing God’s creative work (Genesis 1:1, 21, 27 three times; 2:3; 2:4). There are 7 days in a week and God's Sabbath is on the 7th day.
Meaning of the Number 7 in the Bible
I know that there's so much more to all of this, but I'm going to close out for now as I've spent several hours looking into these things, and the post can get very long if all passages are included.

I hope that others will have some input into these things as well.
 
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עֲשֶׂר דְּבָר = “ten commandments”
4 דְּ = (Dalet/Dal-Door) entrance, creation, the world, creative works
2 בָ = (Beyt/Bet-Tent floor plan) household, family, union, division, and witnessing
20 רֶ = (Resh-Head of man) the beginning of enlightenment to mankind, redemption.
Least. I really appreciate how you study and connect things together. Looking again at the above, and after reading what you presented, it reminded me of some verses. But before I post them, these 3 Hebrew letters represent what every human can see, but lack the camaraderie with Christ. Everybody sees God's creation whether or not they believe. Many understand that there is a difference between believers and non believers because of the church of Christ, and have heard of the gift of eternal life in Christ, but haven't reached out to obtain the gift that God offered through His Son. Therefore, one can try to obey the "commandments" but the benefits of the reality in it's entirety are not there. So in reality, if the "commandments" contain these 3 letters only, there are 2 choices. One is to reject it all, and the other is doing them through self justification. These people are at odds with one another, but neither one has the real understanding of the truth.

John 3:12 (earthly things)דְּ = (Dalet/Dal-Door) entrance, creation, the world, creative works
If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe , if I tell you of heavenly things?

Hebrews 3:15-19 ( entering in)בָ = (Beyt/Bet-Tent floor plan) household, family, union, division, and witnessing
15 While it is said , To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
16 For some, when they had heard , did provoke : howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned , whose carcases fell in the wilderness? 18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not ?
19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way , the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

And then there is a hard thing to address claiming to be born again.
John 3:7 (seeing only the beginning, and believing it's over at that point, but the beginning is not the finished product by any means)
רֶ = (Resh-Head of man) the beginning of enlightenment to mankind, redemption.

Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Hebrews 2:1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard , lest at any time we should let them slip .
Hebrews 4:1 Let us therefore fear , lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
Philippians 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed , not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

As we know, 40 days or years is a time of testing and judgment. The reason for the "golden calf" was because, not even Aaron trusted God for the future, despite all the evidence of the past. Israel, as a whole, thought of themselves as special, and in their own minds, that self proclamation gave them the right to do it their way by doctrines that they desired to revive because it was emotionally more comfortable.

The rhetorical question is; Are we complete in Christ in being obedient to the commandments with just these 3 aspects, or are we truly His children by total neglect because we can't keep them?
 
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Least. I really appreciate how you study and connect things together. Looking again at the above, and after reading what you presented, it reminded me of some verses. But before I post them, these 3 Hebrew letters represent what every human can see, but lack the camaraderie with Christ. Everybody sees God's creation whether or not they believe. Many understand that there is a difference between believers and non believers because of the church of Christ, and have heard of the gift of eternal life in Christ, but haven't reached out to obtain the gift that God offered through His Son. Therefore, one can try to obey the "commandments" but the benefits of the reality in it's entirety are not there. So in reality, if the "commandments" contain these 3 letters only, there are 2 choices. One is to reject it all, and the other is doing them through self justification. These people are at odds with one another, but neither one has the real understanding of the truth.

John 3:12 (earthly things)דְּ = (Dalet/Dal-Door) entrance, creation, the world, creative works
If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe , if I tell you of heavenly things?

Hebrews 3:15-19 ( entering in)בָ = (Beyt/Bet-Tent floor plan) household, family, union, division, and witnessing
15 While it is said , To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
16 For some, when they had heard , did provoke : howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned , whose carcases fell in the wilderness? 18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not ?
19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way , the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

And then there is a hard thing to address claiming to be born again.
John 3:7 (seeing only the beginning, and believing it's over at that point, but the beginning is not the finished product by any means)
רֶ = (Resh-Head of man) the beginning of enlightenment to mankind, redemption.

Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Hebrews 2:1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard , lest at any time we should let them slip .
Hebrews 4:1 Let us therefore fear , lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
Philippians 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed , not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

As we know, 40 days or years is a time of testing and judgment. The reason for the "golden calf" was because, not even Aaron trusted God for the future, despite all the evidence of the past. Israel, as a whole, thought of themselves as special, and in their own minds, that self proclamation gave them the right to do it their way by doctrines that they desired to revive because it was emotionally more comfortable.

The rhetorical question is; Are we complete in Christ in being obedient to the commandments with just these 3 aspects, or are we truly His children by total neglect because we can't keep them?
Amen brother, great post!

Hebrews 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

1 Peter 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
1 Peter 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
1 Peter 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
1 Peter 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

In understanding these two things, are they not established in us? So that we are no longer under (these) laws, but through Him and because of Him, these are established by His grace.

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.


Jesus, (our High Priest,) said that the words that HE speaks, they are spirit and they are life. Peter in Acts 7 Called the words given on Mount Sina, "lively oracles." Living words!

Acts 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:
Acts 7:39 To whom our fathers would not obey, but thrust him from them, and in their hearts turned back again into Egypt,

Every word that God speaks is true and living, we see this right from the beginning of creation. God spoke and what He said happened. "Every word of God is true..."

In Christ, the vail is removed in reading the OT and the Prophets.

2 Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.


If the New Covenant was only about believing... there wouldn't have been need for further instruction.

As you said before, it's by continuance, "if you continue in My word, you are My disciples indeed, and you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free."

Galatians 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 4:21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
 
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Amen brother, great post!

Hebrews 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

1 Peter 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
1 Peter 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
1 Peter 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
1 Peter 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

In understanding these two things, are they not established in us? So that we are no longer under (these) laws, but through Him and because of Him, these are established by His grace.

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.


Jesus, (our High Priest,) said that the words that HE speaks, they are spirit and they are life. Peter in Acts 7 Called the words given on Mount Sina, "lively oracles." Living words!

Acts 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:
Acts 7:39 To whom our fathers would not obey, but thrust him from them, and in their hearts turned back again into Egypt,

Every word that God speaks is true and living, we see this right from the beginning of creation. God spoke and what He said happened. "Every word of God is true..."

In Christ, the vail is removed in reading the OT and the Prophets.

2 Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.


If the New Covenant was only about believing... there wouldn't have been need for further instruction.

As you said before, it's by continuance, "if you continue in My word, you are My disciples indeed, and you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free."

Galatians 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 4:21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
WOW!! Amen. As I was reading your post it was like God was saying "read it real close, and confirm in your heart the truth I have given you, not only in your lifetime, but in the history from the beginning of time, according to MY WORD." This is good for sure. Thanks be to God that the indwelling Spirit ministers to us through each other!

2 Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

Leviticus 26:10
And ye shall eat old store , and bring forth the old because of the new
 
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WOW!! Amen. As I was reading your post it was like God was saying "read it real close, and confirm in your heart the truth I have given you, not only in your lifetime, but in the history from the beginning of time, according to MY WORD." This is good for sure. Thanks be to God that the indwelling Spirit ministers to us through each other!

2 Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

Leviticus 26:10
And ye shall eat old store , and bring forth the old because of the new
Glory to God! I've been having that same thing happen all the through this message string!

God is so good! A lot of sharpening here! Even in things that have been repeated.

I can be hard headed at times.

Thanking the Lord for His patients!
 
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Wait up. While you guys/gals are on the way to Pentecost I'm still in the feast of the unleavened bread. What is solemn assembly and holy convocation about on the last day of the feast? I asked on the other thread but then probably overlooked...