It's all about butts in the seats for most. Sure they think that they are all about the Lords work..churces I mean.....but men also have their own reasons for doing what they do...saying what they say....and i'll bet if the facade was stripped away from the hearts of men who portray God (Jesus) as a sadistic monster...I wonder what we'd see? I submit we'd see a whole lotta self preservation behind it all.
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The Gospel of Jesus the Christ
The gospel of Jesus the Christ is the good news.
The good news of grace and truth made known to this world through
the Holy Ghost by the name above all names Jesus the Christ the first born of God
the Son of the living God the son of man given birth by woman to which came from man.
For it is written in the Holy Bible...
the scriptures of truth inspired by God.
In the beginning was the Word
and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him;
and without him was not any thing made that was made.
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God,
Which were born of God.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Have you received the Word?
If you will receive the Word
God will give you power to become a son of God.
And if you become a son of God by that power
You will become born of God.
And if you become born of God
You will cease from doing sin.
If we say we have sin and say we are born of God
then we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
When Christians tell you they still sin and are born of God...
they are liars. They are not born of God.
When preachers tell you
that even though you are born of God you will still sin....
they are liars. You are not born of God.
For it is written...
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Satan never wants you to believe or know
that by grace through faith in Jesus Christ
you can become born of God and never
commit another sin.
The reason Christians do not want to believe they can
live without committing sin is because they love there sins
more than God.
That is what it is all about.
The love of sin vs the love of God.
The gospel of Jesus the Christ is the good news.
The good news of grace and truth made known to this world through
the Holy Ghost by the name above all names Jesus the Christ the first born of God
the Son of the living God the son of man given birth by woman to which came from man.
For it is written in the Holy Bible...
the scriptures of truth inspired by God.
In the beginning was the Word
and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him;
and without him was not any thing made that was made.
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God,
Which were born of God.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Have you received the Word?
If you will receive the Word
God will give you power to become a son of God.
And if you become a son of God by that power
You will become born of God.
And if you become born of God
You will cease from doing sin.
If we say we have sin and say we are born of God
then we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
When Christians tell you they still sin and are born of God...
they are liars. They are not born of God.
When preachers tell you
that even though you are born of God you will still sin....
they are liars. You are not born of God.
For it is written...
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Satan never wants you to believe or know
that by grace through faith in Jesus Christ
you can become born of God and never
commit another sin.
The reason Christians do not want to believe they can
live without committing sin is because they love there sins
more than God.
That is what it is all about.
The love of sin vs the love of God.
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God was never a bloodthirsty monster.
He destroyed people because they did horrible things like sacrifice their kids to idols.
Communion isn't about doing the ritual right but having a heart that is humble and willing to listen to God and His will and be servants to those around us. Having a heart that rejects idols and worship God alone. Having a heart that knows what agape love is and can give it to others. Having a heart willing to die or suffer if it is God's will.
Taking communion correctly is to allow others to go first and eat because you see their need and your love moves you to put others first, especially the weak and poor.
He destroyed people because they did horrible things like sacrifice their kids to idols.
Communion isn't about doing the ritual right but having a heart that is humble and willing to listen to God and His will and be servants to those around us. Having a heart that rejects idols and worship God alone. Having a heart that knows what agape love is and can give it to others. Having a heart willing to die or suffer if it is God's will.
Taking communion correctly is to allow others to go first and eat because you see their need and your love moves you to put others first, especially the weak and poor.
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This anti church diatribe, sadden my heart.
I can not recall a preacher who teaches God is a sadistic monster...are you sure you are listening to the pastors words in truth or the false whispers of your own imaginings?
Satan's favorite task is to whisper lies and cause misunderstanding to drive people away from Christ body on earth.
When I was a kid I used to believe the "Holy Ghost" meant that Christians were possesed mindless zombies controlled by a ghost,
I have since learnt that I misunderstood what was being said.
I can not recall a preacher who teaches God is a sadistic monster...are you sure you are listening to the pastors words in truth or the false whispers of your own imaginings?
Satan's favorite task is to whisper lies and cause misunderstanding to drive people away from Christ body on earth.
When I was a kid I used to believe the "Holy Ghost" meant that Christians were possesed mindless zombies controlled by a ghost,
I have since learnt that I misunderstood what was being said.
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Have you read Korah's rebellion? The essence of their effort was to depose Moses and
Aaron from leading Gods people. They offered unholy offering before the Lord and died.
A ceremony is a way of honouring a reality, or exalting its importance from other things.
So you have different celebrations in the calendar as regards passover, the feast of weeks etc.
Even the sabbath people died for breaking it.
If you entered the Holy of Holies your died. The high priest could only enter once a year.
So this King and God we follow has a real sense of holiness.
A man who put out his hand to steady the arc of the covenant died.
So this King we serve is very much commited to keeping that which is holy, holy.
We are called not to dictate the ways of God but to learn His heart and will and walk
in them.
Aaron from leading Gods people. They offered unholy offering before the Lord and died.
A ceremony is a way of honouring a reality, or exalting its importance from other things.
So you have different celebrations in the calendar as regards passover, the feast of weeks etc.
Even the sabbath people died for breaking it.
If you entered the Holy of Holies your died. The high priest could only enter once a year.
So this King and God we follow has a real sense of holiness.
A man who put out his hand to steady the arc of the covenant died.
So this King we serve is very much commited to keeping that which is holy, holy.
We are called not to dictate the ways of God but to learn His heart and will and walk
in them.
I would think the sick or dying would be more of a spiritual issue.(no faith) They tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come.But crucified him over and over every time they drank the cup which they claimed was the blood of Christ called, Transubstantiation.
Performing that rather than trusting it as a ceremonial law.In doing so they make the grace of God without effect making Christ unworthy, using it as a sign unto their own selves as evidence that they have the Holy Spirit in portions every time they drink the blood of the grapes..they receive life. Sort of like the fountain of youth.
Performing that rather than trusting it as a ceremonial law.In doing so they make the grace of God without effect making Christ unworthy, using it as a sign unto their own selves as evidence that they have the Holy Spirit in portions every time they drink the blood of the grapes..they receive life. Sort of like the fountain of youth.
This is mixing two concepts.
1. Gods judgement on His people and His expectations of us
2. Our judgement of one another, and what we deem acceptable or not
You appear not to be distinguishing between the two and Paul was.
Ananias and Saphara did not drop dead because man judged them but God.
We have therefore good reason to be cautious, and remember who our King
is and how great is His love for us, with His holiness, and not to be arrogant
and disrespectful.
1. Gods judgement on His people and His expectations of us
2. Our judgement of one another, and what we deem acceptable or not
You appear not to be distinguishing between the two and Paul was.
Ananias and Saphara did not drop dead because man judged them but God.
We have therefore good reason to be cautious, and remember who our King
is and how great is His love for us, with His holiness, and not to be arrogant
and disrespectful.
It would seem from my perspective he was using that as an opportunity to remove the log from their eyes so that they could understand the spiritual principle of that parable. The Eldest to the youngest left. Most likely the older had more experience in the warning that applied to them , and is also why he wrote their names in the earth, dust . Jeremiah would seem to be a reference to that event even humbling our own heart. .
They had forsaken the gospel of LORD, the fountain of living waters.
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.As the partridge sitteth on eggs, and hatcheth them not; so he that getteth riches, and not by right, shall leave them in the midst of his days, and at his end shall be a fool.A glorious high throne from the beginning is the place of our sanctuary.O LORD, the hope of Israel, all that forsake thee shall be ashamed, and they that depart from me shall be written in the earth, because they have forsaken the LORD, the fountain of living waters Jer 17:9
I am glad you are here, Willie. Together, we at CC are the real Church. I sense real and true fellowship at times. More than many 'brick and mortars' that I have been at. There is safety to be found when we reason together in a loving fashion.
(Matt 18:20)
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
(Matt 18:20)
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Some may just be reacting to some kind of 'hyper-legalism' they have encountered in the past. I don't think that many are intentionally being disrespectful of the Lord's Supper or Communion. It is good that we keep emphasizing sound doctrine, but remember that the term 'doctrine' has become synonymous with 'legalism' in many circles today.
I have come to a wonderful place in life where I appreciate both facets of God's character and nature. I am glad He is just; He will avenge the downtrodden week and meek ones. He is orderly; He will not tolerate a fickle Church that only tickles peoples itching ears and caters to people desire for a mere social club. He is not afraid to reveal His omnipotence. I can rest in peace knowing that He has plenty of power and can deliver me from the onslaughts of any enemy. Through all of these things, I can still sense His love and tender care. What a wonderful and mighty God we serve!
Sometimes I have taken it and sometimes I have deemed myself unworthy at the moment and did not take it....my view has always been it is an ordinance of the Lord's churches, the prescribed order is found in the scriptures and if we want to be 100% biblical we do it the way it was done by the Lord's churches 1st century A.D. I.E> Like Jesus and his disciples and or as prescribed by Paul in the letter's he was inspired to write....
Just my view....and let every man be persuaded in his own mind.....I suppose......
Just my view....and let every man be persuaded in his own mind.....I suppose......