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If im understanding this which i highly doubt. But if i do. Then you disregard the fact the Pharisees had no
interest in God. Of coarse it was dead..da..they worshipped baal. But more important im guessing you think
the Holyspirit is given to those who earn it or really want it or something. Like it isnt given to all to give them new birth.
We are told to live by the Word of God. You aught to quit making small of it since it converts the soul.
The Spirit comes by faith in that Word, not faith to get the spirit. But in Christ and Him crucified. Your not going to grow an inch or be conformed, transformed, washed or regenerated a bit but by the Word and
the Spirit. The Spirit wont build faith, He wont teach discernment without the Word. You have a poor understanding of the pharisees and treat them like they were believers and just didnt have the Spirit and
then transfer that error into your present day understanding of a true child of God. Wont work they were
of their father the devil. I can give you alot of scripture of devout jewish believers who lived by the word of God.
If im understanding this which i highly doubt. But if i do. Then you disregard the fact the Pharisees had no
interest in God. Of coarse it was dead..da..they worshipped baal. But more important im guessing you think
the Holyspirit is given to those who earn it or really want it or something. Like it isnt given to all to give them new birth.
We are told to live by the Word of God. You aught to quit making small of it since it converts the soul.
The Spirit comes by faith in that Word, not faith to get the spirit. But in Christ and Him crucified. Your not going to grow an inch or be conformed, transformed, washed or regenerated a bit but by the Word and
the Spirit. The Spirit wont build faith, He wont teach discernment without the Word. You have a poor understanding of the pharisees and treat them like they were believers and just didnt have the Spirit and
then transfer that error into your present day understanding of a true child of God. Wont work they were
of their father the devil. I can give you alot of scripture of devout jewish believers who lived by the word of God.
I consider the living Word of God to be Jesus Himself, and as such, I live by Him and in Him. He lives in me by the Holy Spirit. And, He gives me life by the Holy Spirit.
I hate to tell you this, but the bible cannot give you life. Now you consider that in this I am making the bible less, or smaller. In truth, I am showing the proper respect for the scriptures, because I trust the testimony that it contains, and I believe in God. I trust in God. And I shall not be disappointed in my trust.
You and others want to judge me as a heritic, as one who hates the bible and the church. You could not be further wrong. You want to see me as one who thinks himself superior to everyone else, and again you show your ignorance, I am least worthy because I had to be drug into His death. I am constantly ashamed of my previous arrogance and supposed superiority because of biblical knowledge. I know now just how little I do know, it is even less than I think.
So you might as well realize that your words are not going anywhere.
I hate to tell you this, but the bible cannot give you life. Now you consider that in this I am making the bible less, or smaller. In truth, I am showing the proper respect for the scriptures, because I trust the testimony that it contains, and I believe in God. I trust in God. And I shall not be disappointed in my trust.
You and others want to judge me as a heritic, as one who hates the bible and the church. You could not be further wrong. You want to see me as one who thinks himself superior to everyone else, and again you show your ignorance, I am least worthy because I had to be drug into His death. I am constantly ashamed of my previous arrogance and supposed superiority because of biblical knowledge. I know now just how little I do know, it is even less than I think.
So you might as well realize that your words are not going anywhere.
Well, I am only answering you in the Spirit, and I believe the answers are entirely on point.
You want to judge me for not having faith in the bible. You can judge me for that. You want to judge me for not esteeming the bible, and in this you would be false. You seek to do this because my relationship with scripture is not the same as yours. And it is not.
It comes down to this simple difference. You believe that from scripture you will gain all knowledge concerning salvation and God. I believe that from God's revelation that I will gain all knowledge about salvation and Him, and from the Holy Spirit that I will actually come to know Him personally. I believe that this is what Jesus came into the world to accomplish, this ability to walk with God freely again. I believe that if we walk with God that we will be His friends, and that He hears His friends. I believe that I want to know Him, better and more each day. And I want to grow in my love for Him, more each day.
If you go back and look, you will see that these things are the basis of all that I teach. If you call that slippery, then I think that you have strange definitions of that word.
You want to judge me for not having faith in the bible. You can judge me for that. You want to judge me for not esteeming the bible, and in this you would be false. You seek to do this because my relationship with scripture is not the same as yours. And it is not.
It comes down to this simple difference. You believe that from scripture you will gain all knowledge concerning salvation and God. I believe that from God's revelation that I will gain all knowledge about salvation and Him, and from the Holy Spirit that I will actually come to know Him personally. I believe that this is what Jesus came into the world to accomplish, this ability to walk with God freely again. I believe that if we walk with God that we will be His friends, and that He hears His friends. I believe that I want to know Him, better and more each day. And I want to grow in my love for Him, more each day.
If you go back and look, you will see that these things are the basis of all that I teach. If you call that slippery, then I think that you have strange definitions of that word.
Revelation 2:2
“‘I know your works, your toil and your patient endurance, and how you cannot bear with those who are evil, but have tested those who call themselves apostles and are not, and found them to be false.
Matthew 7:15
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
1 Corinthians 11:19
for there must be factions among you in order that those who are genuine among you may be recognized.
2 Corinthians 11:13
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
Acts 20:30
and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them.
1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons
1 John 2:19
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
2 Peter 2:1
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction
Matthew 24:24
For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
Jeremiah 23:32
Behold, I am against those who prophesy lying dreams, declares the LORD, and who tell them and lead my people astray by their lies and their recklessness, when I did not send them or charge them. So they do not profit this people at all, declares the LORD
“‘I know your works, your toil and your patient endurance, and how you cannot bear with those who are evil, but have tested those who call themselves apostles and are not, and found them to be false.
Matthew 7:15
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
1 Corinthians 11:19
for there must be factions among you in order that those who are genuine among you may be recognized.
2 Corinthians 11:13
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
Acts 20:30
and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them.
1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons
1 John 2:19
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
2 Peter 2:1
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction
Matthew 24:24
For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
Jeremiah 23:32
Behold, I am against those who prophesy lying dreams, declares the LORD, and who tell them and lead my people astray by their lies and their recklessness, when I did not send them or charge them. So they do not profit this people at all, declares the LORD
I think that many have been very gracious to you through much patience and have put up with much of your way of thinking, your prophecies and with some of your doctrine you come up with. If you were gracious to the church and would consider yourself as part of it (body, flesh and bones) then most of this opposition would be none existent, but you refuse and think you are doing the will of God through the Spirit. This is what happens with independent believers that do it all on their own and don't believe they need others (or their supply of the Spirit - Eph 4;16, Phil 1:19) because they have the Spirit. That is just plain foolishness and the reason for your opposition.
actually, I had to reject most of what I had learned and been taught in church, because it was not only wrong, but damaging to my faith.
There is no agreement between us. You refuse to even think that I might have a revelation from God, because it goes against your doctrines and beliefs. You refuse to even consider that you might be wrong, or even mislead. What that amounts to is arrogance, and pride.
If someone has the Spirit, really knows the Spirit of God, then they would trust Him for EVERYTHING!
I know very few who do.
I am sure that from your perspective, I am NOT in that number. However, I want to know Christ and the Holy Spirit through the word, through grace and through the plan of God with lead me and guide me into the truth of knowing Him. But it is going to be ME that gets to know Christ, because it was ME that He shed His blood for and saved by His grace. It was ME that He justified and imputed His perfect righteousness to through faith when I believed. The Spirit was given to ME that I might know Him and have fellowship with Christ. When I pray, I pray not to the Spirit but to the Father, who has given of His Spirit, so that I may believe and know the Son. The Spirit and the bride, separately but together in their union, say COME! (Rev 22:17)
YOU'RE A FALSE PROPHET WHO HATES THE CHURCH THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T KNOW ANY REAL CHRISTIANS WHO TRUST GOD FOR EVERYTHING, HAVE THE SPIRIT.
what an elitist deluded CREEP you are. i think you take pleasure in messing with people here.
i can barely tolerate your posts. YOU'RE A FRAUD!
i'm glad i don't have to meet you in person, for i would turn and walk the other way.
what an elitist deluded CREEP you are. i think you take pleasure in messing with people here.
i can barely tolerate your posts. YOU'RE A FRAUD!
i'm glad i don't have to meet you in person, for i would turn and walk the other way.
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It's one thing to know about scriptures and being approved(wow) but it really shows truely to being evident by the fruit of the Spirit. Otherwise back to milk. All starts with a choice to walk the talk, not just talk the talk.
Read 1 cor 13, the love chapter, and meditate on the last verse, surely scripture doesn't lie, it's written to serve us well in applying all its teachings, not just some.
Group hug lol.
All the back biting isn't it written not to do it, regardless. Can still admonish, correct even challenge in love, agape love not filio
And the thread is about all the false stuff??
Read 1 cor 13, the love chapter, and meditate on the last verse, surely scripture doesn't lie, it's written to serve us well in applying all its teachings, not just some.
Group hug lol.
All the back biting isn't it written not to do it, regardless. Can still admonish, correct even challenge in love, agape love not filio
And the thread is about all the false stuff??
Have you been counting? That's interesting because if there is a place to add to the canon of scripture, I don't know where they would add anything new and don't know who would be doing the adding. They might have a difficult task seeing how that so many other manuscripts have been rejected, what would give this new revelation any authority greater than those already tried and rejected. I believe that it took all those years before the canon was final because the word of God had to be tied by time and by the plan of God.
Believers can be inspired by the word and the Holy Spirit, inspired by faith through the love and grace of God and inspired in their speech being seasoned with salt and ministering grace to the hearer, but to add to the verbal plenary inspiration of the scriptures is not going to happen. It's been tried before and has always failed because God has a way of preserving that which belongs to Him and it is an open, sealed and shut case. No other prophecies can be added to what has been sealed by God through the inspiration of the written word. The scriptures open and start with, 'In the beginning' and close with 'The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all, AMEN'. That gives us confidence and hope in the person of Christ and what has been spoken and written for our learning.
Believers can be inspired by the word and the Holy Spirit, inspired by faith through the love and grace of God and inspired in their speech being seasoned with salt and ministering grace to the hearer, but to add to the verbal plenary inspiration of the scriptures is not going to happen. It's been tried before and has always failed because God has a way of preserving that which belongs to Him and it is an open, sealed and shut case. No other prophecies can be added to what has been sealed by God through the inspiration of the written word. The scriptures open and start with, 'In the beginning' and close with 'The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all, AMEN'. That gives us confidence and hope in the person of Christ and what has been spoken and written for our learning.