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angels were the first sons of God but not only begotten Jesus is the only begotten

what other race were at creation if Adam and eve were the first humans hmmm you are adding to scripture then where are these sons of God or other race
I am not adding anything my brother, can you notice that those sons of god were at the creation of the earth,
also, bible put the word "AND" in JOB 38:6.. making difference between angels and sons of god, it is clearly that angels are not the sons of god that this verse says about.
 

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Hmmm, and how many saw God face to face and lived? And why did they tie a rope to the ankle of the High Priest on the Day of Atonement when he went into the Holy of Holies?
Why are you supposing this has to be talking about a face to face encounter with God? Even The H. P. who entered "before the presence of the Lord" in the holy of holies did not see God face to face. The rope was tied to their ankles so that in the event that the H. P. entered with any kind of defilement or defiled himself in any way and was "slain before the Lord," they could be dragged him out.
 
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I am not adding anything my brother, can you notice that those sons of god were at the creation of the earth,
also, bible put the word "AND" in JOB 38:6.. making difference between angels and sons of god, it is clearly that angels are not the sons of god that this verse says about.
you donot know how the bible speaks let me see if i can help synonyms

[h=3]Psalm 43[/h]King James Version (KJV)

1 Judge me, O God, and plead my cause against an ungodly nation: O deliver me from the deceitful and unjust man.

Is a deceitful man a unjust man ?

 
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I am not adding anything my brother, can you notice that those sons of god were at the creation of the earth,
also, bible put the word "AND" in JOB 38:6.. making difference between angels and sons of god, it is clearly that angels are not the sons of god that this verse says about.
Who is an upright man ?

Psalm 7:10My defence is of God, which saveth the upright in heart.
 
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I am not adding anything my brother, can you notice that those sons of god were at the creation of the earth,
also, bible put the word "AND" in JOB 38:6.. making difference between angels and sons of god, it is clearly that angels are not the sons of god that this verse says about.
Who is a saint ? why
 

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I believe that the scripture in Job is referring to the first creation. We are the re creation.

Morning star is the glory of God upon men. This will come to the body of Christ before Jesus comes back. I saw this in Revelations doing word studies.

This would also explain how humanity (first creation) was before the fall of Lucifer, and he became satan. Is just how I see this though. Haven't checked if anyone else has this interpretation. Am still studying Revelations. Lots to cover. :)
 

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I believe that the scripture in Job is referring to the first creation. We are the re creation.

Morning star is the glory of God upon men. This will come to the body of Christ before Jesus comes back. I saw this in Revelations doing word studies.

This would also explain how humanity (first creation) was before the fall of Lucifer, and he became satan. Is just how I see this though. Haven't checked if anyone else has this interpretation. Am still studying Revelations. Lots to cover. :)
You are very correct here.
 
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you donot know how the bible speaks let me see if i can help synonyms

Psalm 43

King James Version (KJV)

1 Judge me, O God, and plead my cause against an ungodly nation: O deliver me from the deceitful and unjust man.

Is a deceitful man a unjust man ?

brother. everything that is not right or just (forgive my english) comes from injustice..
of course that "deceitful" is unjust
 

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Thank you John. I needed to hear that another saw this. I haven't spoken to anyone else about this.
 
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I believe that the scripture in Job is referring to the first creation. We are the re creation.

Morning star is the glory of God upon men. This will come to the body of Christ before Jesus comes back. I saw this in Revelations doing word studies.

This would also explain how humanity (first creation) was before the fall of Lucifer, and he became satan. Is just how I see this though. Haven't checked if anyone else has this interpretation. Am still studying Revelations. Lots to cover. :)

Pre adamic world is not biblical we must not add to God word Where in the bible staes that there was a preadmic world with Humans
 
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Thank you John. I needed to hear that another saw this. I haven't spoken to anyone else about this.

See if this makes sense why would God recreate the old world and put the devil back to mess it up again ?

Would the devil be on the new earth to mess it up again ?
 

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There is a space of time between verses 1 and 2 of Genesis 1 Daniel. Plus many other scriptures that most of us just skim over without thinking about what they mean. OT scriptures I mean.

Takes one whose knowledge of hebrew is much more than my limited understanding from my own studies, and they are on the web.
 

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See if this makes sense why would God recreate the old world and put the devi back l to mess it up again ?

Would the devil be on the new earth to mess it up again ?
No, we know from the scripture he will be sent to the pit. Jesus came to save the world.
 
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There is a space of time between verses 1 and 2 of Genesis 1 Daniel. Plus many other scriptures that most of us just skim over without thinking about what they mean. OT scriptures I mean.

Takes one whose knowledge of hebrew is much more than my limited understanding from my own studies, and they are on the web.

What space
have you ever written a story for school
It start off with a summary and then into steps

It say in the beginning God created th heavens and the earth everything then the steps
Do you think you can find words to describe nothing if you were recording the creation of the world

Think about it can you describe nothing
 
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No, we know from the scripture he will be sent to the pit. Jesus came to save the world.
you dont get it

i am going with your theory and tell me if it makes sense

The earth existed
Then there was a war God verses the devil
So the earth was destroyed in this war
God spend 6 days to recreate the world
But forgot to put the devil out hmmmmmm
 

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Just a sec Daniel...let me get my oxford bible.
 

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Verse 2 says ...and the earth was without form. The actual hebrew word says "became to lie waste". That is one thing. Be back...