Three Words From Our Lord

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didymos

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I use transliterations from the Hebrew by preference, and I never use Hebrew only. When I have shared Hebrew word meanings, it has only been when the question arose, or it formed part of the post.

As for "where does it say," I posted in English. Do you understand the difference? I did not post in Hebrew or Greek.
A transliteration is still hebrew, only with latin letters. I used TWO greek words, you've used more hebrew words in your posts on occasion. This whole forum is in english, does that mean you can ONLY use english words? If so you should maybe stop using your 'transliterations' aswell.
 

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The fact still remains you were questioning the language of the post, it is in E-N-G-L-I-S-H, Your usage of the Greek to prove Yeshua said two words and not three is ridiculous, since we are using English.

As for tranliterations, by virtue of the word, it means transcribing one alphabet to another. If I were not to be allowed to do this in English, then one my not use most names, since they are transliterations. Benjamin should then be Son of the Right Hand. Yeshua should be Salvation, which I would prefer all people to call Him, but they do not. Reuben would be Behold a Son. All of what many call names are not just labels, they have translations.

Now the post is, "Sin no more." It is English, and the forum is English. When it is opportune, we all refer to the original tongue of the Word. This all comes together to form study of the Word, in English with references. You have not actually stuck to what I have posted or replied to you, and I doubt you will this time either. Please try to focus. Do not try to muzzle others. Thank you.


A transliteration is still hebrew, only with latin letters. I used TWO greek words, you've used more hebrew words in your posts on occasion. This whole forum is in english, does that mean you can ONLY use english words? If so you should maybe stop using your 'transliterations' aswell.
 
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didymos

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The fact still remains you were questioning the language of the post, it is in E-N-G-L-I-S-H, Your usage of the Greek to prove Yeshua said two words and not three is ridiculous, since we are using English.


Ofcourse it's 'ridiculous,' it was a JOKE, duh? :confused:

 
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BradC

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Now you follow me to "improve" upon my grammar? What is wrong with you? The two examples cited are both imperative, that is commands; one using the emphatic, for what? For emphasis. Why do you always have something weird to detract from the meaning of the posts of others? I realize my years of educational formation are a ways behind me, but what I do know about grammar is accurate on this point. I was on the dean's list in college, and my education deals with grammar and linguistics. That and $5 will not get you a cup of mocha java extra cream cappuccino at a Starbuck's, but it is true. Find someone else to hound.
Nothing wrong with me, it is how I understand that passage, the mood of the setting and the action that took place. I only expounded on what was there. Was I inaccurate or incorrect in my conclusions about how Jesus ministered to the woman taken in adultery? Why not comment on the content instead of being introspective? You have not liked me or many of the things I have to say for awhile now and that is your prerogative. You begin this thread with those three words in a discussion forum, what do you expect? You reject what I said because I connected it to the law and it was very specific as to what I believe took place between a sinful woman and the living God. I like the story in (John 8) and it is a very good illustration of the mercy and grace of God that deals with sinners who are constantly being condemned by the law, not the ones who profess to uphold the law by thanking God that they are not like others.
 
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The fact still remains you were questioning the language of the post, it is in E-N-G-L-I-S-H, Your usage of the Greek to prove Yeshua said two words and not three is ridiculous, since we are using English.

As for tranliterations, by virtue of the word, it means transcribing one alphabet to another. If I were not to be allowed to do this in English, then one my not use most names, since they are transliterations. Benjamin should then be Son of the Right Hand. Yeshua should be Salvation, which I would prefer all people to call Him, but they do not. Reuben would be Behold a Son. All of what many call names are not just labels, they have translations.

Now the post is, "Sin no more." It is English, and the forum is English. When it is opportune, we all refer to the original tongue of the Word. This all comes together to form study of the Word, in English with references. You have not actually stuck to what I have posted or replied to you, and I doubt you will this time either. Please try to focus. Do not try to muzzle others. Thank you.
Yeshua is not the English form of the name of our Lord and Saviour? If not, then why not use the English form (Jesus) when speaking English? Would that be unreasonable or bring less honor to the name of God our Saviour and our salvation? I believe that more people in the world have been saved under the name (Jesus) then under the Hebrew name (Yeshua) and for that reason we should use that name no matter how is was derived or came to be. I do not believe that our Lord is dishonored by that name or has even made an attempt through the Holy Spirit to convince those who belong to Him to change His name from Jesus to the Hebrew Yeshua. The main reason I believe that people use the name 'Yeshua' instead of 'Jesus' is because it relates to the Hebrew tongue and language, the emphasis concerning His sacred name and it relates to the Jews as a people, a nation and the heritage that goes with being called by God. It would be very edifying to hear you use the name 'Jesus' more often in your exchange with others, for it was in the pronunciation of the name 'Jesus' that we received the forgiveness and cleansing of all sin and the gift of eternal life.
 

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Jesus is the tranliteration from Latin, previously tranliterated from the Greek. Yeshua is just as English as is Jesus. Do you actually believe Jesus is rooted in English? And you are correcting the grammar of others with with what YOU understand?
If you knew, you would know that Jesus is traced back to the Hebrew name.

If you believe the Word, you know the name of the Savior in English is Salvation, but you do not yet realize this.

_When the angel told Mary what to call the child, he did not say to call His name Jesus or Yeshua or Iesous, for He shall save His people; no! He said, you shall call His name Salvation for He shall save His people. Are you ready to believe this? This is His name, Salvation. Why don't we all call Him by His name in English?

Yeshua is not the English form of the name of our Lord and Saviour? If not, then why not use the English form (Jesus) when speaking English? Would that be unreasonable or bring less honor to the name of God our Saviour and our salvation? I believe that more people in the world have been saved under the name (Jesus) then under the Hebrew name (Yeshua) and for that reason we should use that name no matter how is was derived or came to be. I do not believe that our Lord is dishonored by that name or has even made an attempt through the Holy Spirit to convince those who belong to Him to change His name from Jesus to the Hebrew Yeshua. The main reason I believe that people use the name 'Yeshua' instead of 'Jesus' is because it relates to the Hebrew tongue and language, the emphasis concerning His sacred name and it relates to the Jews as a people, a nation and the heritage that goes with being called by God. It would be very edifying to hear you use the name 'Jesus' more often in your exchange with others, for it was in the pronunciation of the name 'Jesus' that we received the forgiveness and cleansing of all sin and the gift of eternal life.
 
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We don't relate to this because we are the children of god.
 

JaumeJ

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What the Lord teaches about "just joking."

Pro 26:18
Like the maniac who shoots fiery darts and deadly arrows—
Pro 26:19


that's what someone is like who lies to his neighbor and then says, "I was joking, wasn't I?"
 
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Actually you will not find it too funny about doing me plus you do not seem like someone who would judged me.
 

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The OP is "Three Words From Our Lord." Some here are making this thread about me, and this should not be so. Stop now. The thread was just fine previously.
 
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Richie_2uk

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The OP is "Three Words From Our Lord." Some here are making this thread about me, and this should not be so. Stop now. The thread was just fine previously.
Welcome to CC, this what happens when you post something with very little to Go on. you just posted 3 words. no explanation, nothing to go on more. perhaps if you explained the meaning of this thread a little more, you may of had the responses you maybe looking for. God bless.
 

JaumeJ

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Are you here also to make this post about me? I can tell you right now, I am not so importnt. The post is about Yeshua, Jesus, and what He pronounced. If you wish to have more on those words, meditate on when, where and why the words were spoken. The three words are more than sufficeint to stimulate healthy and holy discussion,and this is what we are here fore.

If you want this post to be about me, I could just say what I think and believe and that would be it, but I am interested in family feed-back. Family is all who call on the name of our Salvation in spirit and truth.

This forum is not to be about any one of us, it is about the Word, Yeshua, or do you call Him Jesus........same person.


Welcome to CC, this what happens when you post something with very little to Go on. you just posted 3 words. no explanation, nothing to go on more. perhaps if you explained the meaning of this thread a little more, you may of had the responses you maybe looking for. God bless.
 
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didymos

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The OP is "Three Words From Our Lord." Some here are making this thread about me, and this should not be so. Stop now. The thread was just fine previously.
May I remind you yourself started with the personal insults? According to you I'm a 'pseudo grammarian' that has 'great knowledge' (oh, the sarcasm). Again, my original post was meant as a JOKE, if you hadn't taken it so seriously this thread would still be fine. I forgive you (3 words in accordance with the Lord's Prayer), so relax and let's move on with your fab thread.
 
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Richie_2uk

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Are you here also to make this post about me? I can tell you right now, I am not so importnt. The post is about Yeshua, Jesus, and what He pronounced. If you wish to have more on those words, meditate on when, where and why the words were spoken. The three words are more than sufficeint to stimulate healthy and holy discussion,and this is what we are here fore.

If you want this post to be about me, I could just say what I think and believe and that would be it, but I am interested in family feed-back. Family is all who call on the name of our Salvation in spirit and truth.

This forum is not to be about any one of us, it is about the Word, Yeshua, or do you call Him Jesus........same person.
No I am not making this about you, Just asking you to elaborate on your thread a bit more. anyone can make a thread and say 2 to 3 words. But then you are going to get many negative responses because you didnt explain what you are meaning and why's and whats.

People post in threads to either ask a question, or wanting to find some information, or to learn about something. So perhaps if you are going to post something, maybe try explain a little more about what you either asking, or saying. Posting 3 words will only fuse people's fire. If I said 3 words in a thread, with explaining, of course im going to get people commeting back asking me what did I mean? was I asking something, or was I saying something that meant something.

No I am not making this about you. but I am making it about your methods of posting.
 
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Everything should be about us finding the correct words with Yeshua and Jesus also, you know.
 
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Richie_2uk

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There you go, you have now explained what you meant. if you had quoted that in the beginning, then people would not be left hanging of what you meant. You just said it was about Yeshua, Jesus and what he pronounced, Great now we know the full meaning of why you just posted 3 words. perhaps if you would of said in the beginning this is what Jesus pronounced, SIN NO MORE. and then we would of had more menaing of what you were saying.

Its like if I rang you on your phone, and all i said What is it? then and put the phone down. what is your reaction is going to be? you would be asking yourself, what did he mean by that? he didnt explain what he meant right? well thats is exactluy what you did in this thread, people are not saying its a rubbish thread, or making it about you. They just left to guess what on earth you meant by what you said without any explanation.

God bless. I am not having a go at you, or making this about you, just pointing out the posible reason why you getting these responses you dont like, thats all.
 
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The problem with these three words of Jesus comes from our English translations. You loose a lot of the meanings of words when you translate them from the original language to English. Here is where the confusion comes in, you have to go to the original language to get the full meaning of these words. The words, "Sin no more" when you go to the original language means "Don't sin anymore". Do you see the big difference? I can see how the confusion can come into God's people when they don't go to the original language. :rolleyes:
My post was a joke... I was trying to show how silly we are in how we can take the three simple words of Jesus, "Sin no more" and turn them into a false Gospel, works salvation, under the Law, fallen from grace, He didn't really mean not to sin, Jesus is not the Son of God, global warming, the tax rate and the price of eggs in China. :rolleyes:
 

JaumeJ

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Right now, I want to go on record about joking about the Word or posts on the Word. I do not approve of winking the eye about the Word of Yahweh. If anyone has an absolute obsession to joke, please advise when doing the joking. When it comes to the salvation of all Body Members, including myself, I am dead serious. Dead in Yeshua's crucifixion, and serious about the love of the Father for all of His children, myself included.

Please, anyone who feels compelled to joke in the forum give advanced warning. I have no sense of humor regarding the salvation of any and all, none whatsoever. Please remember this when addressing me. Look through all my posts, and you will not find even an lol............