TRUE BIBLICAL SABBATH, NOT MAN'S SABBATH

JaumeJ · Jul 21, 2011

There is also Acts 20:7 7 On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.

Revelation 1:10
10 On the Lord’s Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet,

from the evidence that is contained within the scriptures we may come to the conclusion that early Christians worshipped upon the first day of the week. They partook of the Lord's supper upon the first day of the week. They gave of their means upon the first day of the week. This day came to be known as the Lord's day.

Am I making sense here?The Bible starts the day at sunset

I hope everyone realizes that Jesus broke bread at a seder for Pesach, and it was not the 7th nor the 1st day of the week. Breaking of bread is in remembrance of our Lord, Jesus Christ, and one may break bread on any day of the week, it is always appropriate to commemorate the Lord, Jesus Christ. It may help to keep in mind the Lord and the Disciples, all Jews, observed Torah and followed the Hebrew Calendar, actually all followers of Christ did in the first Churches.

Avinu · Jul 21, 2011

Avinu!!!!!!!! How are ya! I bet you missed me didn't ya? That's ok. You don't have to admit it. I know you did!

Ok, here is what I discovered from the NT.

Matthew 28:1 1 After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb (Jesus rose from the grave on the first day of the week)...Also Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, and John 20:1 all record where Jesus rose on the first day of the week.

Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were all written years after the actual events occurred and the writers would have already been participating in first century worship long before they picked up the inspired pen to jot these things down. So it is not without reason that they all mention that Jesus was resurrected upon the first day of the week. Yet at this point in our discussion we know not what that reason might be. But it would certainly be fitting to say that we meet upon the first day of the week because that was the day in which our Lord was raised.

We find that the preaching of the first gospel sermon and the terms of the entrance into the kingdom of God was upon the first day of the week. Acts 2 states that the apostles met together on the day of the Pentecost.
The day of Pentecost was fifty days after the Passover Sabbath according to Leviticus 23:15, 16. So fifty days later would be forty-nine days (seven weeks) plus one day. Seven weeks from the Sabbath would be on a Saturday, so the fiftieth day would be on a Sunday or the first day of the week. Acts 2:41,42 we read the following, "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued steadfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

There is also Acts 20:7 7 On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.

Revelation 1:10
10 On the Lord’s Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet,

from the evidence that is contained within the scriptures we may come to the conclusion that early Christians worshipped upon the first day of the week. They partook of the Lord's supper upon the first day of the week. They gave of their means upon the first day of the week. This day came to be known as the Lord's day.

Shalom, lol, you're funny, great sense of humor, don't lose As for your post, I'm sorry that there is nothing in scripture as many after your post already said to you that shows any change in the Sabbath. In fact Constatine(please look up to verify for yourself) of Rome is the one that changed sabbath from sat. to sun. He put it into law. The disciples getting together on sun. to break bread was because Paul was leaving town. I'm sorry but this teaching in the church is one of the most bogus out there. True Sabbath has and always will be Sat. Shalom

JaumeJ · Jul 21, 2011

Avinu said:

It is my understanding the change was to avoid worshipping God the same day as Jews do, and this is what we Hillbillies call a crying shame! Jesus is King of the Jews. He is my King, amen.

Avinu · Jul 21, 2011

It is my understanding the change was to avoid worshipping God the same day as Jews do, and this is what we Hillbillies call a crying shame! Jesus is King of the Jews. He is my King, amen.[/QUOTE]

Amen, it is a crying shame. shalom

Grandpa · Jul 21, 2011

Avinu said:

True Sabbath has and always will be the Lord Jesus Christ. Saturday Sabbath is a type and shadow. A REST FROM WORKS. Did you read Laodicea's post? Here it is again, in case you missed it.

The sabbath is meant to be a delight
Isaiah 58:13-14
(13) If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
(14) Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

The Jews made it a burden
Matthew 23:4
(4) For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

These are some of the teachings of Jesus on the Sabbath
Matthew 12:1-8
(1) At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.
(2) But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.
(3) But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;
(4) How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?
(5) Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
(6) But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.
(7) But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
(8) For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
Matthew 12:10-12
(10) And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
(11) And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
(12) How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.
Luke 13:16
(16) And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?

Most of Jesus healing was done on the sabbath Jesus taught the correct meaning of the sabbath. Jesus kept the sabbath in His death He died on Friday, rested in the grave on Sabbath and rose on the 1st day. Has Jesus changed now that he is in Heaven?

Hebrews 13:8
(8) Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Matthew 11:28-30
(28) Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
(29) Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
(30) For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

JaumeJ · Jul 21, 2011

I do not read any connection to Christ's rising as being the New Sabbath, however if His rising on the first day of the week means anything at all to me, it would be to begin the building to the final Sabbath of God. Where is the writing that the first day of the week is the Sabbath? It was changed to the first day of the week long after the first Churches were in existence. You can Google it, and see that the change occurred in the 4th century. Wouldn't everyone like to be as much like Yeshua and the Disciples as possible? Why then would anyone want to follow the pagan custom of resting on the day of the sun? This is reminiscent of the golden calf incident in the wilderness.......come on everyone, let's please God, turn away from "rueing as commandment the tradition of man." I suppose if the intention is pure and one wishes, he may honor the Sabbath on any day he chooses, but those who love our Dad, it seems, would most happily prefer honoring His Commandment. The Sabbath is the Seventh Day, and it has been since Moses, or are there folks here who do not believe Moses was a man of God?

Avinu · Jul 21, 2011

Hey grandpa, 1) no where in scripture does it even hint that Sabbath is any kind of type and shadow. 2)Yeshua is NOT Sabbath, He is Lord of the Sabbath, people like you who love to twist scripture around are the cause to confusion to those who haven't learned yet. 3) I have proven with scripture that Sabbath is still a commandment to be kept, you go ahead and try and justify your disobedience to God all you want. 4) I don't need to read Lao's post, he's just a man, I read God's infallable truth which is crystal clear.

Nalu · Jul 21, 2011

Grandpa said:

Yes, that's my point exactly. I don't recall Jesus saying, Ok fella's, its been a long week, you guy's can have a day off.

Lad · Jul 21, 2011

Nalu said:

Try the message version

but seriously, we dont need Yeshua to have said that, Yeshua was a jew, he wouldve and did keep the sabbath as the scriptures testify.

Nalu · Jul 21, 2011

Lad said:

Its not clearly defined in the Bible, so that's just your'e opinion.

I am gonna use my Dr Phil voice, without scripture, that dog will not hunt.

Lad · Jul 21, 2011

Nalu said:

The bible says again and again that Yeshua went to teach in the temple on the sabbath. But the Bible doesnt clearly define anywhere that the sabbath was done away with, so thats just your opinion.

Can I ask why you are so anti this?

Abiding · Jul 21, 2011

Jesus would have kept the Sabbath as He kept all the Law. So that doesnt mean anything.
He Also kept the passover, circumcision, feast of unleavened bread, feast of tabernacles,
day of attonement.blood sacrifices......all were everlasting, eternal covenants. According to scripture. right?
So there might be some rethinking.

Nalu · Jul 21, 2011

Lad said:

I believe that every day is holy unto the Lord.

All 7 days. So you have your'e opinion, and I have mine. You do you're thing and I will continue to do mine.

I am anti taking a day off, that's all, no more, no less.

Elizabeth619 · Jul 21, 2011

Soooooo.....what about goin to church on Wednesday???? That aint in the bible either, but alot of us still do it!!!!!!

Gee, I am tired.

Nalu · Jul 21, 2011

Elizabeth619 said:

I go to Bible study on Wednesday.

Elizabeth619 · Jul 21, 2011

I'm just being a smartie pants. Sorry.

I actually don't know what thread I am in at this point.

Laodicea · Jul 22, 2011

Nalu said:

Following God is not about our opinion it is about God's opinion. Cain thought he could use his own opinion in worship of God but , God did not accept his worship

Avinu · Jul 22, 2011

Jesus would have kept the Sabbath as He kept all the Law. So that doesnt mean anything.
He Also kept the passover, circumcision, feast of unleavened bread, feast of tabernacles,
day of attonement.blood sacrifices......all were everlasting, eternal covenants. According to scripture. right?
So there might be some rethinking.
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Beatifully put Abiding, Amen. Shalom

Avinu · Jul 22, 2011

Nalu, I don't mean to sound harsh, but your beliefs are irrelevent to the facts. You can believe everyday is Holy all you want. YHWH and Yeshua make it crystal clear about keeping the Sabbath. The only opinion here is yours, and that to make an excuse to do what you want not what God wants.
Incase you missed it, here it is again in the NT.
Luke 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments, and RESTED THE SABBATH DAY ACCORDING TO THE COMMANDMENT.

So you have no arguement, it is you deciding to ignore scripture, plain and simple.

Elizabeth619 · Jul 22, 2011

I have a good friend that attends the Seventh Day Adventist church. Whether I agree with their religous views or not they are some of the most hard working, classy, and decent people I know. Not to mention Godly.

After reading this thread I feel the need to go visit them.

Why am I saying this? No reason.

I just wanted Avinu to know I am online

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