Was the Law Your Tutor?
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The past week or so I have been reading and studying Acts and Romans, and I shall continue, as I have been reading and studying the Word now for close to fifty years. This and $5. will not get you a cappuccino at Starbucks.
At the U of I at Champaign-Urbana I was a major in language and linguistics. Since leaving the university I have had to review and consult dictionaries, encyclopedias, thesauruses, grammar guides, and much more in order to maintain some levell of competence in my studies. I suppose this would be consulting my tutors, my professors etc.
The same holds true for knowing the law, not the laws, the law. So many here say they have left their tutor when they have no idea what the law teaches. Now I have already explained how I believe the law, as from the Word, many times even in this particular thread.
I believe the law of faith, but this in no manner is calling all the law God has given us through Moses a lie, for this would be calling God a lie. I am not saying it is no longer to be followed because it is full of wisdom, prophecy and it leads to Yeshua, Jesus. To teach we are not to obey God is counter to Yeshua's teachings and common decency in my humble esteem
The earth and the sky remain, thus so does the law in the light of the understanding given by Yeshua, Jesus. There is no harm in my obeying as best I may. I do not earn points with Yahweh, but it is pleasing to Him for his children to be obedient. How do I know, the Bible tells me so.
At the U of I at Champaign-Urbana I was a major in language and linguistics. Since leaving the university I have had to review and consult dictionaries, encyclopedias, thesauruses, grammar guides, and much more in order to maintain some levell of competence in my studies. I suppose this would be consulting my tutors, my professors etc.
The same holds true for knowing the law, not the laws, the law. So many here say they have left their tutor when they have no idea what the law teaches. Now I have already explained how I believe the law, as from the Word, many times even in this particular thread.
I believe the law of faith, but this in no manner is calling all the law God has given us through Moses a lie, for this would be calling God a lie. I am not saying it is no longer to be followed because it is full of wisdom, prophecy and it leads to Yeshua, Jesus. To teach we are not to obey God is counter to Yeshua's teachings and common decency in my humble esteem
The earth and the sky remain, thus so does the law in the light of the understanding given by Yeshua, Jesus. There is no harm in my obeying as best I may. I do not earn points with Yahweh, but it is pleasing to Him for his children to be obedient. How do I know, the Bible tells me so.
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Yes ! In a very real but general way the law of God brought me to Christ; If I had known no law, which, my braking of the law, was the reason I came to Christ, because the Holy Spirit made me guilty of the law I knew and broke. As a Gentile I did not know anything but the 10 commandments. But the Holy Spirit did use the law to make me guilty, But I did not realize all this at the time. We really need to learn how to teach God's law to bring Guilt, the moral and the rest, is useful to bring guilt, thus bring us to Christ. I think my lust was the main sin that God used to convict me that I was a sinner and needed the Savior. I was raised in a very godly, moral home, so I was kept from stealing, lying, swearing. But my parents and godly society could not control my heart and eye. Love Hoffco
When I posted that, I realized it would come back and bite me. When posting this I had a post in mind from someone who once asked if people who call Jesus, Yeshua, think they are getting brownie points for doing so, and it really does not apply in my post. Please forgive that oversight.
We obey because of the joy of knowing His love, wanting to please Him at every turn, not for points for this is our due, but, yes, we are storing up treasure in heaven in behaving so. Praise God, amen. May Yahweh, God, hold you close now and forever, amen.
We obey because of the joy of knowing His love, wanting to please Him at every turn, not for points for this is our due, but, yes, we are storing up treasure in heaven in behaving so. Praise God, amen. May Yahweh, God, hold you close now and forever, amen.
Yeah, those that stay the coarse, that do not get choked out by this world and taske fro granted grace and not love others as God has and does already love us, thank you
One in the body
1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1m forever continues to equal one. God begins this work of one in all that have chosen and will choose God over this seemingly beautiful world, just as Christ refused in the Desert for us all to come that same Faith
One in the body
1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1m forever continues to equal one. God begins this work of one in all that have chosen and will choose God over this seemingly beautiful world, just as Christ refused in the Desert for us all to come that same Faith
Donuts brought me to the Lord. I went to my friend's Bible Study because they offered donuts. The rest is history.
Seriously though, I had no concept of what the law was, or barely the 10 commandments. I just wanted Jesus. I didn't even necessarily want Jesus in order for Him to remove sin from my life, I just wanted Him.
And now the Law helps me to see more completely all He has done for me, and continues to show me how to love Him and His people.
Seriously though, I had no concept of what the law was, or barely the 10 commandments. I just wanted Jesus. I didn't even necessarily want Jesus in order for Him to remove sin from my life, I just wanted Him.
And now the Law helps me to see more completely all He has done for me, and continues to show me how to love Him and His people.
being on the same page, depends on motive, you think?
For me all I want is to know God and rest in God, trusting God all in all at God's mercy and love to all through Son, and it is done, as God does takes us whatever page we are on and teach us truth from error
Error, puts and keeps one in bondage
truth sets one free, and whoever is free, it is Christ who did this, and not of anyone else, and I know you know this.
So just be one with God
For me all I want is to know God and rest in God, trusting God all in all at God's mercy and love to all through Son, and it is done, as God does takes us whatever page we are on and teach us truth from error
Error, puts and keeps one in bondage
truth sets one free, and whoever is free, it is Christ who did this, and not of anyone else, and I know you know this.
So just be one with God
When I started reading the bible I thought I was already walking with Christ. It wasn't until I started trying to do the things that the bible says to do that I started to realize that I wasn't as good and holy as I had first thought.
2 Corinthians 10:5-6
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.
This was the most difficult thing ever, for me. Especially since at first I had no concept of the obedience of Christ, really. I was just trying to take every thought captive...
Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
That one repeated in my mind over and over, automatically. I didn't try to lust after women in my mind, it was a reflex action by the time I started to try to take every thought captive.
I found out I didn't have any control over my own thoughts, which come from my own heart. I tried really, really hard to get rid of all the sin in my heart. I wanted to be perfect before the Lord. I was embarassed and angry that I couldn't do it. I kept asking the Lord for help. Sometimes demanding, sometimes questioning His Authority and Power. I'm embarassed now to admit that last one...
But without the Lord Jesus Christ I would never have been able to overcome any of the sin that was in my heart. Without crying out to Him, out loud, I would have been stuck in my own sin.
But thankfully, the Lord Jesus gave me rest from working so hard at removing my own sin.
Now I know that if I go back to the law to "check" my progress I can again be entangled in my own work at trying to remove even more sin from this heart of mine. But that is the trap. Working at the law to remove what the law, and my work, are unable to remove. Only by Faith in the Power of Christ is any work accomplished.
2 Corinthians 10:5-6
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.
This was the most difficult thing ever, for me. Especially since at first I had no concept of the obedience of Christ, really. I was just trying to take every thought captive...
Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
That one repeated in my mind over and over, automatically. I didn't try to lust after women in my mind, it was a reflex action by the time I started to try to take every thought captive.
I found out I didn't have any control over my own thoughts, which come from my own heart. I tried really, really hard to get rid of all the sin in my heart. I wanted to be perfect before the Lord. I was embarassed and angry that I couldn't do it. I kept asking the Lord for help. Sometimes demanding, sometimes questioning His Authority and Power. I'm embarassed now to admit that last one...
But without the Lord Jesus Christ I would never have been able to overcome any of the sin that was in my heart. Without crying out to Him, out loud, I would have been stuck in my own sin.
But thankfully, the Lord Jesus gave me rest from working so hard at removing my own sin.
Now I know that if I go back to the law to "check" my progress I can again be entangled in my own work at trying to remove even more sin from this heart of mine. But that is the trap. Working at the law to remove what the law, and my work, are unable to remove. Only by Faith in the Power of Christ is any work accomplished.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to KohenMatt again.
I have always enjoyed when you have posted how relevant the laws are in your walk with the Lord. It stands out that those who say the law is dead, past, abolished, etc., all ignore when you demonstrate this wonderful manner of being in the light.
It brings to mind, having hears, they hear not; having eyes, they see not. I pray hearts will be converted from stone to flesh, amen.
I have always enjoyed when you have posted how relevant the laws are in your walk with the Lord. It stands out that those who say the law is dead, past, abolished, etc., all ignore when you demonstrate this wonderful manner of being in the light.
It brings to mind, having hears, they hear not; having eyes, they see not. I pray hearts will be converted from stone to flesh, amen.
In secular world we are citizens... Do we fulfill the law of the land? Do we respect all the traffic lights? Do we stop all the evil by following human and God´s ruñes?
We are aware we had thoughts not fitting to be married men or married women?
We know the things we do and God´s law is perfect. we aren´t.
We are aware we had thoughts not fitting to be married men or married women?
We know the things we do and God´s law is perfect. we aren´t.
I memorized a summary of the Ten Commandments at around age 7-9. It taught me how to define boundaries to avoid and prevented trouble for myself and others.
The Boy Scout law was helpful to define character goals later in my youth.
Traffic laws like those for speed limits and stop signs have continued to lessen the troubles that I might have otherwise encountered.
The Boy Scout law was helpful to define character goals later in my youth.
Traffic laws like those for speed limits and stop signs have continued to lessen the troubles that I might have otherwise encountered.
This thread has been wonderful, and I thank everyone for the loving contributions. It is wonderful to know how many children of the most High God live to obey Him in love. It makes me so happy in the light of your input. Learning is a lifetime endeavor, and by all you have taught me today, I realize just how little I know. Praise Yeshua, and thank you for your prayers; I feel them. I pray you feel mine............
B
The law is not of faith (Gal 3:12), yet the just shall live by faith (Rom 5:1) and walk by faith (2 Cor 5:7). The law is not something that we as believers keep by faith, for that would be works according to the law. If any man is not justified by the works or deeds of the law then there is no righteousness in keeping the law. So, to keep the law is not an act of faith and faith is what pleases God. Our obedience is according to faith and is rooted in the finished work of Christ by promise. To keep the works of the law is to live outside of faith and the promises of God. When we abide in Christ by faith, the Holy Spirit, who dwells in us, sheds the love of God in our hearts fulfilling the law.
Some of you believe that keeping the law is fulfilling the law. You believe that you are required to do this through obedience to what is commanded by the law. This obedience is not the obedience of faith that we have been called to make known unto all nations (Rom 16:26). We are called to reveal the mystery of the gospel and of Christ and the church (Rom 16:25, Eph 6:19). There is no mystery of the law that we are to keep or make known among the nations of the world. Our communion with the Lord is through His body and His blood by faith and not through the law. We are not required to keep the law to receive mercy and grace from the Lord, mercy and grace is obtained when we approach the throne of God by faith as believer/priests.
Some of you believe that keeping the law is fulfilling the law. You believe that you are required to do this through obedience to what is commanded by the law. This obedience is not the obedience of faith that we have been called to make known unto all nations (Rom 16:26). We are called to reveal the mystery of the gospel and of Christ and the church (Rom 16:25, Eph 6:19). There is no mystery of the law that we are to keep or make known among the nations of the world. Our communion with the Lord is through His body and His blood by faith and not through the law. We are not required to keep the law to receive mercy and grace from the Lord, mercy and grace is obtained when we approach the throne of God by faith as believer/priests.
Many of today's so called Christians say they believe the bible tells them that the Holy Spirit teaches against the law. Say the word law to them and they group together to fight. If you tell them the law came from God and is of God, they say that Christ cancelled it. They even quote Paul who stood up for law as telling them God put a curse on it. Paul, who was a Torah keeping Jew, told them no such thing, it takes twisting his words and ignoring much of his words to come up with such things of the devil.
These people use the Jewish race to back their ideas up. God used the Jewish race that God created in front of our eyes starting with Abraham from the gentiles. God did this for mankind, all mankind. He used their language to write His words to us in most of the bible. After other languages were used, God used people of the Jewish race steeped in Jewish culture for the last few pages of his word, like Paul. Now, in gentile's jealousy they say if God told this special race his words, He didn't mean it for us! So they refuse lots of scripture and tell us they are right to do it and people who believe God are wrong.
If they are called on any of this they say they are SO misunderstood. Then they teach their lessons on how to be opposed to God.
These people use the Jewish race to back their ideas up. God used the Jewish race that God created in front of our eyes starting with Abraham from the gentiles. God did this for mankind, all mankind. He used their language to write His words to us in most of the bible. After other languages were used, God used people of the Jewish race steeped in Jewish culture for the last few pages of his word, like Paul. Now, in gentile's jealousy they say if God told this special race his words, He didn't mean it for us! So they refuse lots of scripture and tell us they are right to do it and people who believe God are wrong.
If they are called on any of this they say they are SO misunderstood. Then they teach their lessons on how to be opposed to God.