We were tricked with fake holy days

[garee]

The things of God are the appointed times, (holy days), that He calls His.
The traditions of men are Christmas, easter

Holy (to set aside for a certain purpose ) days does not mean that purpose continues . Mount Sinai was set aside once for a certain purpose but the dirt on that mountain was no different than that of the hill behind my house. or the bronze snake on a pole was set aside once for that time period. This is even though some wanted to make it Holy forever as anew ceremonial law . God ground it up like mince meat and fed it to those unbelieving Jews. It came out as drought like all meats. .
The refomation has come .What was the purpose of God setting aside the refomation as Holy?

And we are not really talking about the traditions of men as oral tradition thereof . They can do one of two thing. Compliment the traditions of God or make the tradition of God, the scriptures without effect.

We must distinguish between the things of God and those of men. It is there that Satan gets his foot in the door of the church , where judgement will begin. or we could say where the rubber meets the road to salvation. Its much narrower then the ceremonial laws that he has set aside as Holy shadows and types........... until the reformation.

 

[garee]

He certainly does have a name. Maybe you should read the front of the Book, (with a reliable concordance). P.s., His name is not "The LORD".

Again God, eternal Spirit does not have a name like you or e I needed to tell us apart. He has no competition.

Yes you are correct Lord in respect to the word Jehovah simply mean savor just like the word Jesus or Joshua .Its not a secret name body of believers. God is God with many in mutable attributes to include the word Lord.

 

[disciplemike]

We must distinguish between the things of God and those of men.

In Leviticus 23, When God says, "These are My feasts", is that a "thing of God" or "a tradition of man"?
And Moses declared unto the children of Israel the feasts of the LORD.
Leviticus 23:44 (KJV)

 

[disciplemike]

Yes you are correct Lord in respect to the word Jehovah simply mean savor just like the word Jesus or Joshua .Its not a secret name body of believers. God is God with many in mutable attributes to include the word Lord.

Sure He has attributes. and He has a real name. I think it's important. You think what you like.

 

[garee]

In Leviticus 23, When God says, "These are My feasts", is that a "thing of God" or "a tradition of man"?

Yes he does.. but what is the purpose ... temporal or eternal?

It’s a Holy thing of God that he set aside as a temporal law as a shadow that pointed to the fulfillment .

The first century reformation has come. God is no longer hungry as if he ever was to begin with. It’s how we know it is a parable as a ceremonial law. it would seem you are not given the hidden spiritual understanding, as the message.

"If" I were hungry, I would not tell thee: for the world is mine, and the fulness thereof .Will I eat the flesh of bulls, or drink the blood of goats? Psa 50:12

And Moses declared unto the children of Israel the feasts of the LORD.

And Moses declared unto the children of Israel the feasts of the LORD will be shown for what they are

Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time “of reformation.”..

It’s like God when he spoke through Samuel the judge.to the apostate King Saul ... the peoples choice the result of removing God as King . It is actual that time period the as to what the first century refomation restored the order of God as that which we do have today.Typified by the judges in respect to our counselors, the word of God.

1Samuel 15:14 And Samuel said, What meaneth then this bleating of the sheep in mine ears, and the lowing of the oxen which I hear?.

There is no more feed me, I am hungry God.

 

[garee]

Sure He has attributes. and He has a real name. I think it's important. You think what you like.

If we think what we like and not what he reveals . How could that be figured as set aside as Holy? Is it us that sets things aside for a certain purpose? ? Are his thoughts ours? or his ways?

You would have to prove he has a name set aside that does not represent an attribute of a God who has no form.

There are no secret names clubs. Jehovah mean savior nothing more and nothing less.

 

[mpaper345]

If you knew a little more about the Bible, you would know that Paul was telling the Colossians to not let people judge them because they ARE keeping God's dietary laws and appointed holy days. You were tricked into thinking it means the opposite.
Almighty God has shown in Scripture what His real Holy Days are. You do what you want.

Actually it does mean the opposite,do not let any man judge you and tell you to keep them.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

The Bible says that Jesus took the physical ordinances of Israel,and nailed them to His cross,taking them out of the way,for those physical ordinances were against us,they were against us in having a spiritual relationship to God,and access to heaven.

Jesus got rid of the physical ordinances,and holy days,of Israel.

Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Jesus got rid of them,physical ordinances,holy days,so it can only mean let no man judge you,and tell you to keep them,because we do not have to go by them anymore,and if someone thinks we do,then they are going against the scripture that we are not saved by works,by believing we still have to do works of the Old Testament.

Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

This scripture also backs it up by saying those things in the Old Testament were only a shadow of things to come,which means they were only temporary,but the body is of Christ,which means it is spiritual now,and when you belong to Christ you no longer go by them,why,because Christ got rid of them.

But this will prove a point that even though the Bible says plainly,all up in your face,without a doubt,that Jesus got rid of them,so we do not go by them,some people will still not change their position,why,because 99.99 percent only go by their denomination,or what they personally believe,and once it gets stuck in the ole' noggin,it is hard to unloose.

 

[prove-all]

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us,
which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

The Bible says that Jesus took the physical ordinances of Israel,and nailed them to His cross,
taking them out of the way,for those physical ordinances were against us,they were against
us in having a spiritual relationship to God,and access to heaven.

that is not what that verse says, Jesus did not do away with his convocations.
where does it even mention the physical ordinances of Israel?

maybe read what the handwriting of requirements is
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...-about-fourth-commandment-25.html#post2689626

or what The curse of the law really means
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...-about-fourth-commandment-25.html#post2689625

 

[prove-all]

Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

This scripture also backs it up by saying those things in the Old Testament were only a shadow of things to come,which means they were only temporary,but the body is of Christ,which means it is spiritual now,and when you belong to Christ you no longer go by them,why,because Christ got rid of them.

There is a problem with that thinking , at the time this was written,
Christ was allready raised, that was in the past when this was spoken.

a shadow of things [to come] is future tence, not past tence- a future meaning.
Christ pictures the passover, its only [one] of the 7 Holy days, not all.

Do you know what the other holy days mean ? we can learn much because
there is a purpose and meaning for everyone of Gods convocations.

-Christ fulfilled passover by shedding his blood.
Therefore let us [keep the feast], 1 Corinthians 5:8

-Feast of unleaved bread represents putting away sin (transgression of Gods law)
God brought thee forth out of Egypt by night.” we have to start this jurney

Exodus 12:14 “And this day shall be unto you for [a memorial];
and ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations;
ye shall keep it [a feast] by an ordinance [for ever].

Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread.
And in the first day there shall be an holy convocation …”

a memorial—not a shadow, a memorial—a feast—to be kept forever
A memorial of deliverance from Egypt, which pictures to us deliverance from sin!
again twice the bible calls them memorials, by an ordinance forever. did God lie?

-He fulfilled the wave shelf , and by being accepted by our father back in heaven.

-fulfilled pentacost [50 days]or spring [firstfruits], starting church and sending H.S.
this holy day, after Christ was back in heaven, was one of those [things to come]

but people do not see that there is the fall feasts yet to come we can learn from them

 

[prove-all]

You, because you dont understand the meaning of these ancient feasts. They were a preparation for Christ. Read the New Testament.

can you tell me why does the new testament commands us to keep
[the feast] of unleavened bread? also called the night to be most remembered.


Therefore let us [keep the feast], 1 Corinthians 5:8

 

[prove-all]

"The LORD spoke to Moses, saying, "Speak to the people of Israel"
nuf said, not for us

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the promises and the covenants of God, all the sonship and the glory,
belong sole to Israel (Romans 9:4).

 

[prove-all]

Abraham delt with the Babylonian Mystery Religion

Scientist, Astronomer, Mathematician—and Father of Nations
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/...stronomer-mathematician-and-father-of-nations

 

[disciplemike]

the promises and the covenants of God, all the sonship and the glory,
belong sole to Israel (Romans 9:4).

I agree. but good luck trying to get some folks to see that.

 

[disciplemike]

If we think what we like and not what he reveals . How could that be figured as set aside as Holy? Is it us that sets things aside for a certain purpose? ? Are his thoughts ours? or his ways?

You would have to prove he has a name set aside that does not represent an attribute of a God who has no form.

There are no secret names clubs. Jehovah mean savior nothing more and nothing less.

The LORD [is] a man of war: the LORD [is] his name. Exodus 15:3 (KJV)

The LORD ( [is] a man of war:
the LORD (The LORD is what the translators provided. That is not His name)
(H3068
Yhovah (yeh-ho-vaw') n/p.)

[is] his name. Exodus 15:3 (KJV)

Yehovah, it is a proper noun, a name, not an adverb or adjective. do a little study for once. He talks about the importance of His name in many passages.

 

[wwjd_kilden]

While mentioned several times times in the Torah, this passage is the only one which provides specific rules.

Leviticus 23:39-43
‘On exactly the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when you have gathered in the crops of the land, you shall celebrate the feast of the Lord for seven days, with a rest on the first day and a rest on the eighth day. 40 Now on the first day you shall take for yourselves the foliage of beautiful trees, palm branches and boughs of leafy trees and willows of the brook, and you shall rejoice before the Lord your God for seven days. 41 You shall thus celebrate it as a feast to the Lord for seven days in the year. It shall be a perpetual statute throughout your generations; you shall celebrate it in the seventh month. 42 You shall live in booths for seven days; all the native-born in Israel shall live in booths, 43 so that your generations may know that I had the sons of Israel live in booths when I brought them out from the land of Egypt. I am the Lord your God.’”

Well, this does not match what DM said he does
so then he breaks the law he tells us to follow

 

[disciplemike]

Well, this does not match what DM said he does
so then he breaks the law he tells us to follow

ok, you got me on that. I did not sleep in the booth for all 7 nights. May YHVH forgive me. We still had fun, and enjoyed learning more about how to celebrate God's appointed times. If you can find people in your area celebrating Sukkot, go and visit just for a little while and see what you think. You will be surprised.

 

[wwjd_kilden]

I went to a synagogue in Glasgow during Sukkot Didn't understand a word, but it was a very interesting ceremony

 

[disciplemike]

I went to a synagogue in Glasgow during Sukkot Didn't understand a word, but it was a very interesting ceremony

Cool! Now, with that said, hmmm, let me be careful how I say this. Some of the Jewish groups can have a lot of ceremony and liturgy built in to their celebrations, which is interesting to see. It can be somewhat overwhelming also. It does not have to be like that. A lot of the American Sukkot gatherings tend to have a lot of prayer and Bible study, but also a lot of fun. It is like a week long camping trip with a lot of good people.

 

[prove-all]

Lamentations 2:17 (KJV)

The Lord hath done that which he had devised; he hath fulfilled his word that he had commanded
in the days of old: he hath thrown down, and hath not pitied: and he hath caused thine enemy
to rejoice over thee, he hath set up the horn of thine adversaries.


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Daniel 7:25 (KJV)

And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints
of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into
his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.​

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In every possible manner, this power has changed time!


God begins the days at sunset, but “the little horn” has changed it so the world now
begins the day in the middle of the night by a man-made watch.

God begins the week with the ending of the true Sabbath, the seventh day of the week,
but the world begins the working week in the middle of the night, the second day of the week.

God begins the months with the new moons, but this “little horn” has induced the world
to begin the months according to a clumsy man-made calendar of heathen origin.


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[Grace777x70]

If a person turns to "the Lord", the veil is removed when Moses is read! Outstanding!

Amen..the veil of following the law is taken away because we have "turned" to the Lord. We rely on Christ alone for our life now because we are in Him.

We live by the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, the law of love, the law of faith, the law of liberty and the law of Christ - Jesus Himself in us. His life is bearing fruit in and through us as we behold the glory of the Lord and we are transformed by the Holy Spirit.

We can read the law to see Jesus in it and that He fulfilled it. We walk in newness of life in Christ not in the oldness of the letter. When we go back to keeping the law - the veil is still on our eyes because it is not on Jesus - but on ourselves and us "keeping the law".