What is Moral?
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Here's my original post again,
If God is absolutely moral, and scripture inerrant, then why are there so many direct commands from God in the OT - such as allowing slavery, death sentences for things we don't even consider crimes anymore, genocide, and rape - that we would immediately recognize as immoral today?
All I did was ask a question. Can you provide an answer? Thanks.
I think you're the one that can't read your own post.
You are clearly, unequivocally, questioning the morality of God.
And if that isn't clear enough from the OP, which it certainly is, then it's certainly clear from your other posts and responses.
Seriously, you're going to say something, then immediately deny what you just said?
This is how you debate?
Really?
Really?
There are a lot of nice people on CC, and this really isn't worth their time.
It's Sunday, and you're bored, so you're here trolling us?
Is it comical?
You having a good laugh by upsetting nice people after they get back from church?
You are clearly, unequivocally, questioning the morality of God.
And if that isn't clear enough from the OP, which it certainly is, then it's certainly clear from your other posts and responses.
Seriously, you're going to say something, then immediately deny what you just said?
This is how you debate?
Really?
Really?
There are a lot of nice people on CC, and this really isn't worth their time.
It's Sunday, and you're bored, so you're here trolling us?
Is it comical?
You having a good laugh by upsetting nice people after they get back from church?
We cannot look back on the Laws of God and judge them according to our standards of what we believe to be right or wrong. We cannot hold God accountable to our standard of social ethics.
Slavery was not only practiced under the Law of Moses but regulated by it.
When God commanded the eradication of an entire people is was always because of the sins of the people.
The law that demanded the death of the homosexual stressed the danger of this behavior to the nation. This was not to be tolerated under penalty of death because of its morally destructive influence on the nation. This was to protect the nation against this type of influence.
What most people do not understand is that the Law of Moses NEVER applied to anyone other that the Jews. Now that there is a New Covenant, not even the Jews are any longer bound by that Old Covenant.
Slavery was not only practiced under the Law of Moses but regulated by it.
When God commanded the eradication of an entire people is was always because of the sins of the people.
The law that demanded the death of the homosexual stressed the danger of this behavior to the nation. This was not to be tolerated under penalty of death because of its morally destructive influence on the nation. This was to protect the nation against this type of influence.
What most people do not understand is that the Law of Moses NEVER applied to anyone other that the Jews. Now that there is a New Covenant, not even the Jews are any longer bound by that Old Covenant.
Pretty accurate bit needs a couple modifications to be not blasphemy
I believe any approach to my fellow man besides love is wrong!
I never ever would claim to know the will of God. I have not studied the OT enough to know the accuracy of what you say God has done but I know He did say things that Christ fulfilled. It was okay for Abraham to have child with someone other than his wife.
Christ changed all that... We no longer live the ways of the OT we live according to Christ and His teaching I know this post is about the OT but to show God moral and just and perfect I ask one question.
Share with me any single scripture where it is even possible to question the moral, ethical, or just behavior of Christ our Lord.
Salvation is not in understanding God it is by grace alone and Christ's sacrifice
I believe any approach to my fellow man besides love is wrong!
I never ever would claim to know the will of God. I have not studied the OT enough to know the accuracy of what you say God has done but I know He did say things that Christ fulfilled. It was okay for Abraham to have child with someone other than his wife.
Christ changed all that... We no longer live the ways of the OT we live according to Christ and His teaching I know this post is about the OT but to show God moral and just and perfect I ask one question.
Share with me any single scripture where it is even possible to question the moral, ethical, or just behavior of Christ our Lord.
Salvation is not in understanding God it is by grace alone and Christ's sacrifice
So. . .infants had to be killed because of their sin?
Just in case anyone was unclear, a "suckling" is a baby that is still nursing.
So slavery, genocide, and killing gay people was only moral for certain people at certain times?
Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:2-3
Just in case anyone was unclear, a "suckling" is a baby that is still nursing.
So slavery, genocide, and killing gay people was only moral for certain people at certain times?
He is the potter. We are the clay. (Romans 9:21)
Will we put God on trial and raise a complaint and a charge against God and assign guilt? Job tried that in the earliest and oldest book in the Bible. Will not God put us on trial? He will be found moral and just and righteous and not us.
As God has given life, he can also take life away.
People can go deep into debt and end up with nothing left to pay to another except themselves and thus they become a slave. Slavery initiated by kidnapping and imprisonment is a problem but not all slavery has begun that way.
Death sentences continue to be imposed around the world unjustly. Have you been protesting against every injustice? Crimes against an exalted and holy God are more serious than crimes against a lesser being. Again, He is the potter; we are the clay. God gives life and retains the right to take it away. Only by mercy and forebearance does God sustain a life after once it has sinned and all have sinned. His mercies are renewed daily. (Lamentations 3:22).
In the OT, we find God's power at work to open up the earth and swallow rebels (Numbers 16). In the OT, we find God sending an angel and wiping out an Assyrian army of 180,000+ (2 Kings 19; Isaiah 37).
You don't need to share here but...What is your response to questions you've raised and responses that you've been given?
Thank you for initiating this thread. Seek God while life and breath remain. We are obligated to seek Him more than He is obligated to reveal Himself yet He has given revelation of Himself in the Bible and nature and reason.
Will we put God on trial and raise a complaint and a charge against God and assign guilt? Job tried that in the earliest and oldest book in the Bible. Will not God put us on trial? He will be found moral and just and righteous and not us.
As God has given life, he can also take life away.
People can go deep into debt and end up with nothing left to pay to another except themselves and thus they become a slave. Slavery initiated by kidnapping and imprisonment is a problem but not all slavery has begun that way.
Death sentences continue to be imposed around the world unjustly. Have you been protesting against every injustice? Crimes against an exalted and holy God are more serious than crimes against a lesser being. Again, He is the potter; we are the clay. God gives life and retains the right to take it away. Only by mercy and forebearance does God sustain a life after once it has sinned and all have sinned. His mercies are renewed daily. (Lamentations 3:22).
In the OT, we find God's power at work to open up the earth and swallow rebels (Numbers 16). In the OT, we find God sending an angel and wiping out an Assyrian army of 180,000+ (2 Kings 19; Isaiah 37).
You don't need to share here but...What is your response to questions you've raised and responses that you've been given?
Thank you for initiating this thread. Seek God while life and breath remain. We are obligated to seek Him more than He is obligated to reveal Himself yet He has given revelation of Himself in the Bible and nature and reason.