what is the commandments of god?

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homwardbound

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Homward,, if it is impossible to Obey God,, why did God punish Adam? Either you are wrong,, or you have to admit that God is an exacting tyrannt that is evil. Because someone that punishes another person for somthing they cannot help,, is evil and mean.

So,, if we cannot keep Gods Law,, why did God punish Adam? Is God just mean,, like a drunk father that beat his children and his wife?
Adam disobeyed God at eating of that tree as God warned Adam to what would happen and Adam did in spite of!!!!
So punishment of death was due and righteous from God. God did not deceive Adam into the eating of that tree.
Adam as a matter of fact went and hid from God and did not hold himself accountable by saying it was the woman he gave him and the woman said it was the Serpent.

Know let us see the Mercy of God from Day one. What died in Adam and Eve that day? Not flesh, nope, The Spirit of God did though, and man was put out of the garden to till the ground on his own, in order to show man that man needs God the Spirit of God living in them. Man is incomplete without the Spirit of God alive in them

Was this due to God being a tyrant? I think not, for God who has Mercy clothed them, first sacrifice Mercy from God.

So man has been fallen to the flesh ever since all born after the similitude of Adam and Eve in their fallen state. and many years later the redeemer came to earth Jesus Christ to redeem us all from the flesh dead Spirit, to new life back in God's Spirit where man is made whole again, by the resurrected Christ.
All through the Old Testament it is by Faith, belief in God for righteousness sake. It is not of self or there is room to boast.

God when Christ did what Christ did, he did for all; even those in Noah's time, he did it for all. Now the death of Christ was only the cleansing for all, not the new life that is available for all who believe. The resurrection of Christ is where the new life is at, a free gift from God to us all if we will be in agreement and die to the flesh that caused all the mess to begin with

Born of Adam, Flesh womb to earth, in sin. Born of God's Spirit life everlasting installed and we love as God does. ! cor. 13:4-13.
Can any flesh perform 1 Cor.13:4-13?
Only God can right? And if God gives you new birth in God, are you doing the Love of God, with no credit to self?
Yes this is what Christ came to do was redeem us back to Father, if we will believe 100% it is done for you by Father through the Son Christ!!!!!!!!!!!!
Too simple for Human flesh to ever comprehend
You are righteous if you have the peace that passes all understanding, quietness and confidence only found in the new life God came to give through the cross, not any other way.
Love you Brother

We are given the message of:

  1. Romans 5:11
    And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.
  2. 2 Corinthians 5:18 Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation,
  3. 2 Corinthians 5:19 that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
 
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Adam disobeyed God at eating of that tree as God warned Adam to what would happen and Adam did in spite of!!!!
So punishment of death was due and righteous from God. God did not deceive Adam into the eating of that tree.
Adam as a matter of fact went and hid from God and did not hold himself accountable by saying it was the woman he gave him and the woman said it was the Serpent.

Know let us see the Mercy of God from Day one. What died in Adam and Eve that day? Not flesh, nope, The Spirit of God did though, and man was put out of the garden to till the ground on his own, in order to show man that man needs God the Spirit of God living in them. Man is incomplete without the Spirit of God alive in them

Was this due to God being a tyrant? I think not, for God who has Mercy clothed them, first sacrifice Mercy from God.

So man has been fallen to the flesh ever since all born after the similitude of Adam and Eve in their fallen state. and many years later the redeemer came to earth Jesus Christ to redeem us all from the flesh dead Spirit, to new life back in God's Spirit where man is made whole again, by the resurrected Christ.
All through the Old Testament it is by Faith, belief in God for righteousness sake. It is not of self or there is room to boast.

God when Christ did what Christ did, he did for all; even those in Noah's time, he did it for all. Now the death of Christ was only the cleansing for all, not the new life that is available for all who believe. The resurrection of Christ is where the new life is at, a free gift from God to us all if we will be in agreement and die to the flesh that caused all the mess to begin with

Born of Adam, Flesh womb to earth, in sin. Born of God's Spirit life everlasting installed and we love as God does. ! cor. 13:4-13.
Can any flesh perform 1 Cor.13:4-13?
Only God can right? And if God gives you new birth in God, are you doing the Love of God, with no credit to self?
Yes this is what Christ came to do was redeem us back to Father, if we will believe 100% it is done for you by Father through the Son Christ!!!!!!!!!!!!
Too simple for Human flesh to ever comprehend
You are righteous if you have the peace that passes all understanding, quietness and confidence only found in the new life God came to give through the cross, not any other way.
Love you Brother

We are given the message of:

  1. Romans 5:11
    And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.
  2. 2 Corinthians 5:18 Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation,
  3. 2 Corinthians 5:19 that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

Homward, why can't you just answer the simple question.... If Adam could not keep Gods law,, why did God punish him?

I know the Creation story..

If you can't answer the simple question,, it's because you know I'm right.

I will ask you again:

If we cannot keep the law,, why did Adam suffer a penalty?

If you say,, we can keep the law,,,, then it makes sense that God gave Adam the death penalty.

But,, if you say Adam couldn't help but sin because it is impossible to obey God,, then you must admit that God is eveil and mean,, and desires a reason to punish man....

Now,, I'm a simple man,, if you can't answer without spinning a bunch of nonsense,, just ignore my post.
 

homwardbound

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Homward, why can't you just answer the simple question.... If Adam could not keep Gods law,, why did God punish him?

I know the Creation story..

If you can't answer the simple question,, it's because you know I'm right.

I will ask you again:

If we cannot keep the law,, why did Adam suffer a penalty?

If you say,, we can keep the law,,,, then it makes sense that God gave Adam the death penalty.

But,, if you say Adam couldn't help but sin because it is impossible to obey God,, then you must admit that God is eveil and mean,, and desires a reason to punish man....

Now,, I'm a simple man,, if you can't answer without spinning a bunch of nonsense,, just ignore my post.
Did not God tell Adam what would de done if he ate from that tree before hand, that he would die?
That is the answer in a nutshell for you. God does not lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nor is God a tyrant at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Did not God tell Adam what would de done if he ate from that tree before hand, that he would die?
That is the answer in a nutshell for you. God does not lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nor is God a tyrant at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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you ducked the question again.. Don't bother me. I'm goin to church.
 

homwardbound

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you ducked the question again.. Don't bother me. I'm goin to church.
have a great day, and thank you, yet to me I answered the ? anyway maybe ask it differently if you are not satisfied with the answer given. Not looking to fight, that is what flesh does and I desire no part of flesh, and is why I have decide to be co-crucified to self daily with Christ at the cross, so that by some means I might gain the resurrection as Paul said this in Phil 3
 

homwardbound

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in the resurrection is that not the commandment for us all to be born again in the Spirit of God, because no flesh will please God.
The only flesh that ever did was Christ's yes? and today we no Christ no more in the flesh. So it must be by the Spirit since God today can only be worshipped in Spirit.

  1. John 4:23
    But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
  2. John 4:24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”
 

posthuman

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Homward, why can't you just answer the simple question.... If Adam could not keep Gods law,, why did God punish him?
haven't read Romans?

Romans 9:19 - 24

"One of you will say to me: "then why does God still blame us? for who resists his will?"
But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? "shall what is formed say to him who formed it, 'why did you make me like this?' " Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?
What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath - prepared for destruction? What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory - even us, whom he called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?

Paul quotes here Isaiah 29:16 & 45:9

"You turn things upside down
as if the potter were thought to be like the clay!
Shall what is formed say to him who formed it,
'He did not make me' ?
Can the pot say of the potter,
'He knows nothing' ?"

&

"Woe to him who quarrels with his Maker,
to him who is but a potsherd among potsherds on the ground.
Does the clay say to the potter,
'what are you making?'
Does your work say,
'he has no hands' ?"


have you not read Job?
what was God's answer, out of the whirlwind?

who are we, little men, to question the works of the Almighty God?

we are a doodle in a sketchbook complaining that the artist has no right to an eraser.
 
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There are many "instructions" in the Bible how to live, but these are not commandments. The first commandment with "promise" is honour thy mother and they father, and the promise is that thou shalt live long on this earth. We have in the Old Testament the 10 commandments. But when Jesus came, he said I give you a NEW Testament. In that New Testament, Jesus turned all the 10 commandments into 2. Love the Lord Thy God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength, and Love your neighbour as yourself. If you keep just these 2 commandments, then you pretty much will keep all the commandments of God. If you love God, you will never do anything against Him or sin against him nor love anything more than him. If you love your neighbour, you will not sin against your neighbour. I think it's a pretty much full time job just keeping these 2 commandments. Jesus said be ye holy, as I am holy. We see lots of instructions in the Bible, but keep those 2 commandments in your life, and you will be living how God wants you to live. Think about it.
 

homwardbound

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There are many "instructions" in the Bible how to live, but these are not commandments. The first commandment with "promise" is honour thy mother and they father, and the promise is that thou shalt live long on this earth. We have in the Old Testament the 10 commandments. But when Jesus came, he said I give you a NEW Testament. In that New Testament, Jesus turned all the 10 commandments into 2. Love the Lord Thy God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength, and Love your neighbour as yourself. If you keep just these 2 commandments, then you pretty much will keep all the commandments of God. If you love God, you will never do anything against Him or sin against him nor love anything more than him. If you love your neighbour, you will not sin against your neighbour. I think it's a pretty much full time job just keeping these 2 commandments. Jesus said be ye holy, as I am holy. We see lots of instructions in the Bible, but keep those 2 commandments in your life, and you will be living how God wants you to live. Think about it.
You know, I found out how useless and imperfect "my" love was and is before God. It was not until I saw hoe deep God's love for me is through the cross of the Son, Jesus Christ and by this
1 John 4:19 We love him, because he first loved us.
In seeing this It is not "I" anymore that Loves all, it is God that does this through me, God getting all the credit as what it is suppose to be, but can't until one sees
[h=3]Ephesians 3:17-19[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]17 [/SUP]that Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, [SUP]18 [/SUP]may be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; [SUP]19 [/SUP]and to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

We are the creation, not the creators, so what makes more sense? To respond to God or to create our own God?
 

john832

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There are many "instructions" in the Bible how to live, but these are not commandments. The first commandment with "promise" is honour thy mother and they father, and the promise is that thou shalt live long on this earth. We have in the Old Testament the 10 commandments. But when Jesus came, he said I give you a NEW Testament. In that New Testament, Jesus turned all the 10 commandments into 2. Love the Lord Thy God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength, and Love your neighbour as yourself. If you keep just these 2 commandments, then you pretty much will keep all the commandments of God. If you love God, you will never do anything against Him or sin against him nor love anything more than him. If you love your neighbour, you will not sin against your neighbour. I think it's a pretty much full time job just keeping these 2 commandments. Jesus said be ye holy, as I am holy. We see lots of instructions in the Bible, but keep those 2 commandments in your life, and you will be living how God wants you to live. Think about it.
He did not "turn them into", He explained that the Commandments are summed up as (briefly comprehended) as 1) Love God and 2) Love Your Neighbor...

#1 - 1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

#2 - Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
 
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He did not "turn them into", He explained that the Commandments are summed up as (briefly comprehended) as 1) Love God and 2) Love Your Neighbor...

#1 - 1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

#2 - Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Which means that if we love GOD and love our neighbor, we have done everything required by the law. Loving GOD means keeping his commandments, which are believe into his son and love one's neighbor.
 

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Which means that if we love GOD and love our neighbor, we have done everything required by the law. Loving GOD means keeping his commandments, which are believe into his son and love one's neighbor.
Then why did Christ and Paul enumerate them? so that we could ignore them?
 
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Then why did Christ and Paul enumerate them? so that we could ignore them?
Because he's leaving no doubt as to exactly what law he is referring to.

Owe nothing to anyone, except to love one another, for the one who loves someone else has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, you shall not commit murder, you shall not steal, you shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment (e.g., keep sabbath holy), are summed up in this statement: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does not commit evil against a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Romans 13:8-10

 

john832

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Because he's leaving no doubt as to exactly what law he is referring to.

Owe nothing to anyone, except to love one another, for the one who loves someone else has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, you shall not commit murder, you shall not steal, you shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment (e.g., keep sabbath holy), are summed up in this statement: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does not commit evil against a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Romans 13:8-10

Do you know who gave the Ten Commandments on Mt. Sinai?
 
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well people sharing a lot of stuff and got different theories so i'm just curious what do you think the commandment of god is the commandment we must keep to know that we are doing the right thing please share :)
First we must make sure we understand the difference beween the letter of the law (the law as engraved upon stones or written with ink) which is the ministration of condemnation and death for "the letter kills" (2 Cor.3:6-7) and the ministration of the Spirit and Life of God which is the voice of God. 2 Cor.3:8.

Engraved on stones or written with ink it is impossible for the moral law to give or impart life to the sinner. The letter of the law can only show us our great need. It convinces us of sin and the need of a Saviour.

But when we approach God trusting wholly in the merits of the blood shed for us upon Calvary's cross for our acceptance with Him every command of that moral law becomes a promise to us of its own fulfillment for it then becomes the voice of God speaking to us in promise. Received as the voice of God the ten commandments are exceedingly great and precious promises by which we become partakers of the divine nature. (2 Peter 1:4) This is what Jesus meant when He said, "The words that I SPEAK unto you, they are Spirit and they are Life." John 6:63. He also said, "I know that His commandment is life everlasting." John 12:50.

So there is vast difference between the commandment of God proceeding out of His mouth and the same commandment merely engraved upon stones or merely written with ink.

If we will read Psalm 119 again with that in mind, we shall better appreciate why David was so excited about the law of God, not merely written, but spoken.

"The law of Your mouth is better to me than thousands of gold and silver." Psalm 119:72.

"The Lord God has opened my ear." Isaiah 50:5.

If we will daily come to God just as we are, sinful, helpless, dependent, trusting wholly in the MERITS of Christ's infinite sacrifice for pardon and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, the ten commandments will become the voice of God from Heaven speaking to us in promise. Every command of that law will become a most positive promise of its own fulfillment including the Sabbath commandment for what He has commanded He is able to perform. Then His word shall accomplish that which He pleases. Then His Word shall work in us both to will and to do His good pleasure. (Isaiah 55:11; Phil.2:13).

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So, what do you mean by fulfilled?
It is done. Finished. The ONLY reason that we do not enjoy the kingdom is because we still do not love one another. I say we have enough in THAT ALL CAN LIVE COMFORFABLY! But we ACCEPT a system of servitude in which many die daily!
 

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It is done. Finished. The ONLY reason that we do not enjoy the kingdom is because we still do not love one another. I say we have enough in THAT ALL CAN LIVE COMFORFABLY! But we ACCEPT a system of servitude in which many die daily!
So, it is done? Christ has returned? The Millenium is accomplished? The Great White Throne Judgment is over? The Lake of Fire has burned and the Father has brought New Jerusalem down from heaven?

Man, I missed the best parts.
 
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So, it is done? Christ has returned? The Millenium is accomplished? The Great White Throne Judgment is over? The Lake of Fire has burned and the Father has brought New Jerusalem down from heaven?

Man, I missed the best parts.
If you are looking for Him to fall out of the sky, you will die waiting. He lives in me. And if He lives in you, then the kingdom is here! Again, if we only but work to save lives and to give freely what God has blessed us with, then we will heal the world!

We have the power within us!