what is the commandments of god?

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I realize I'm new here and you guys have been going at it for a long time.
I would appreciate it if you would read post #256 and give me a feedback.

Thank you. :)

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well people sharing a lot of stuff and got different theories so i'm just curious what do you think the commandment of god is the commandment we must keep to know that we are doing the right thing please share :)
Romans 12:9 Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.

James 1:20
because human anger does not produce the righteousness that God desires.

Romans 6:12
Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.

Matt 7 12 “In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.


If good comes from your actions then you are doing what is right; but if it has produced bad then it isn't what God desires.
 

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If you are looking for Him to fall out of the sky, you will die waiting. He lives in me. And if He lives in you, then the kingdom is here! Again, if we only but work to save lives and to give freely what God has blessed us with, then we will heal the world!

We have the power within us!
And all this time I have thought this to be true...

Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

and this...

Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

If you think all is fulfilled, I have this bridge...
 
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Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Of course you don't mean that this prophecy will take place at the second coming but after the thousand years.

right?
 
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And all this time I have thought this to be true...

Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him (how will Paul and Judas see Him? They're dead), and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

and this...

Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

Mat 24:27 . For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (How is this achieved? It also says that blessed are those that die in the Lord)

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: (What is that sign?) and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

If you think all is fulfilled, I have this bridge...
That sign is Christ awakening in the hearts of the people! He has been buried there for 3 days.
 
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sof, are you spiritualizing these passages of Scripture away to mean that there shall be no such thing as the return of Christ at the end of the seven last plagues?
 
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Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Of course you don't mean that this prophecy will take place at the second coming but after the thousand years.

right?
That prophecy has already been fulfilled: click > Deciphering Zechariah 14:5 | An indepth analysis of Zechariah 14:5 < click.
 
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all everyone needs to know is that we are in the 7 church age the laodicea age the very last chapter the end time where the church leaves this planet and goes home
 
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I realize I'm new here and you guys have been going at it for a long time.
I would appreciate it if you would read post #256 and give me a feedback.

Thank you. :)

ab
Per #256: the ten commandments are NOT exceedingly great and precious promises by which we become partakers of the divine nature. The promised holy spirit is what makes us become partakers of the divine nature.
 
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all everyone needs to know is that we are in the 7 church age the laodicea age the very last chapter the end time where the church leaves this planet and goes home

Josh
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Josh, How do you explain then that the two promises made to Philadelphia have not yet been fulfilled and won't be until after the close of probatoin when the wicked shall attempt to execute the death decree upon the faithful few?
 
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Per #256: the ten commandments are NOT exceedingly great and precious promises by which we become partakers of the divine nature. The promised holy spirit is what makes us become partakers of the divine nature.
"The words that I SPEAK unto you they are Spirit and they are life." John 6:63.
 
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sof, are you spiritualizing these passages of Scripture away to mean that there shall be no such thing as the return of Christ at the end of the seven last plagues?
What I am saying is that the world as we know it, will see Him no more. And the Christ we see is the universal awakening of man in the Spirit of Love. We are tired of war and death.
 
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"The words that I SPEAK unto you they are Spirit and they are life." John 6:63.
This is how it will happen. I will never change a Muslim by saying "Christ is the only way". He cannot understand that in the tradition that rules his mind. But he can understand me giving him a house to live in, and food to eat. A superior education and the means to learn from his world. This is universal, and something all men need and have in common.
 

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First we must make sure we understand the difference beween the letter of the law (the law as engraved upon stones or written with ink) which is the ministration of condemnation and death for "the letter kills" (2 Cor.3:6-7) and the ministration of the Spirit and Life of God which is the voice of God. 2 Cor.3:8.

Engraved on stones or written with ink it is impossible for the moral law to give or impart life to the sinner. The letter of the law can only show us our great need. It convinces us of sin and the need of a Saviour.

But when we approach God trusting wholly in the merits of the blood shed for us upon Calvary's cross for our acceptance with Him every command of that moral law becomes a promise to us of its own fulfillment for it then becomes the voice of God speaking to us in promise. Received as the voice of God the ten commandments are exceedingly great and precious promises by which we become partakers of the divine nature. (2 Peter 1:4) This is what Jesus meant when He said, "The words that I SPEAK unto you, they are Spirit and they are Life." John 6:63. He also said, "I know that His commandment is life everlasting." John 12:50.

So there is vast difference between the commandment of God proceeding out of His mouth and the same commandment merely engraved upon stones or merely written with ink.

If we will read Psalm 119 again with that in mind, we shall better appreciate why David was so excited about the law of God, not merely written, but spoken.

"The law of Your mouth is better to me than thousands of gold and silver." Psalm 119:72.

"The Lord God has opened my ear." Isaiah 50:5.

If we will daily come to God just as we are, sinful, helpless, dependent, trusting wholly in the MERITS of Christ's infinite sacrifice for pardon and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, the ten commandments will become the voice of God from Heaven speaking to us in promise. Every command of that law will become a most positive promise of its own fulfillment including the Sabbath commandment for what He has commanded He is able to perform. Then His word shall accomplish that which He pleases. Then His Word shall work in us both to will and to do His good pleasure. (Isaiah 55:11; Phil.2:13).

ab
Did not King David for see the day of the cross and state:
Psalm 100:4 Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name.

And the same with Job:
Job 19:25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:

Did not everything in the first Testament all point to Christ as our Savior
For he is:
[h=3]Colossians 1:21-23[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]21 [/SUP]And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled [SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
[SUP]23 [/SUP]if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

So we can love as God if we see:
1 John 4:19
We love him, because he first loved us.

Then might we see the:
[h=3]Ephesians 3:17-19[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]17 [/SUP]that Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, [SUP]18 [/SUP]may be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; [SUP]19 [/SUP]and to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
 

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Romans 12:9 Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.

James 1:20
because human anger does not produce the righteousness that God desires.

Romans 6:12
Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.

Matt 7 12 “In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.


If good comes from your actions then you are doing what is right; but if it has produced bad then it isn't what God desires.
Belief in the finished work of Christ at the cross, where death and resurrection is. All you stated takes place, yet not by me, rather by God through me. The "me" being dead with Christ in the flesh and then made alive by God the Father in the Spirit of God, and there is no sin in God
God gets all the credit for what God did
 

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And all this time I have thought this to be true...

Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

and this...

Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

If you think all is fulfilled, I have this bridge...
All the Law and Prophets are fulfilled in Christ Jesus at the cross
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

John 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

For him to yell out it is finished, then I believe him that he did what he came to do, not destroy but to fulfill.
Now if you want to go to Matt 5:18, go ahead, because the Law is still in place for the unbeliever in Christ's finished work for them.
The Law is for the Law breakers. In Christ we are freed and made perfect and respond to God in thanks and praises why because through his death:
[h=3]Colossians 1:21-23[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]21 [/SUP]And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled [SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: [SUP]23 [/SUP]if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

We are in a new Covenant:


Hebrews 12:24 and to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Under new priesthood, and Law
[h=3]Hebrews 7:11-12[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]11 [/SUP]If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? [SUP]12 [/SUP]For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

So isn't time to believe in the fullness of Christ and respond to God with thanksgiving and praise as King David did
Psalm 100:4
Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name.
 

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Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Of course you don't mean that this prophecy will take place at the second coming but after the thousand years.

right?
Takes place at His coming. Here is a point I disagree with the SDAs (I am not an SDA, no disrespect intended, but I am not). Christ returns and establishes His Kingdom on earth and we rule and reign with Him. Let's go to some scriputres not usually quoted for this point...

Luk 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
Luk 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

The House of Jacob is all of Israel, the thirteen tribes. David's throne is here on earth.

1Co 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

When we read through Thayer's definition of the word "world" we see it means the earth...

G2889
κόσμος
kosmos
Thayer Definition:
1) an apt and harmonious arrangement or constitution, order, government
2) ornament, decoration, adornment, i.e. the arrangement of the stars, ‘the heavenly hosts’, as the ornament of the heavens. 1Pe_3:3
3) the world, the universe
4) the circle of the earth, the earth
5) the inhabitants of the earth, men, the human family
6) the ungodly multitude; the whole mass of men alienated from God, and therefore hostile to the cause of Christ
7) world affairs, the aggregate of things earthly
7a) the whole circle of earthly goods, endowments riches, advantages, pleasures, etc, which although hollow and frail and fleeting, stir desire, seduce from God and are obstacles to the cause of Christ
8) any aggregate or general collection of particulars of any sort
8a) the Gentiles as contrasted to the Jews (Rom_11:12 etc)
8b) of believers only, Joh_1:29; Joh_3:16; Joh_3:17; Joh_6:33; Joh_12:47 1Co_4:9; 2Co_5:19
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: probably from the base of G2865
Citing in TDNT: 3:868, 459

Now let's go on and read about that time...

Isa 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

A mountain in prophecy is a great nation and a hill is a smaller country.

Isa 2:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

Notice the Law and the Word of God will go forth from Jerusalem.

Isa 2:4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Now a little more about that time...

Isa 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
Isa 11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;
Isa 11:3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
Isa 11:4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
Isa 11:5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.
Isa 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
Isa 11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
Isa 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Here is the rest that is described in Hebrews 4 and is pictured by (shadow Col 2:16-17) the Sabbath today.

Isa 35:1 The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.
Isa 35:2 It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the LORD, and the excellency of our God.
Isa 35:3 Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees.
Isa 35:4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.
Isa 35:5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.
Isa 35:6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.
Isa 35:7 And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.
Isa 35:8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.
Isa 35:9 No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there:
Isa 35:10 And the ransomed of the LORD shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.

I know that SDAs teach that there are no people alive on the earth during Millenium, but the scripture shows quite the contrary...

Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

When does this happen? At the beginning or end?

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

The first resurrection occurs at the return of Christ and we live and reign with Christ for the Millenium (1000 years). Where?

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Luk 19:11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.

The Kingdom of God is not "within" us and has not been established yet.

Luk 19:12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.

Act 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.


Luk 19:13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.
Luk 19:14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.
Luk 19:15 And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
Luk 19:16 Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.
Luk 19:17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
Luk 19:18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.
Luk 19:19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.

During this time, the nations will also keep the Feast Days...

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Notice there are those who live over from the tribulation and Day of the Lord into the Millenium.

Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
Zec 14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Withholding rain is one of the ways God corrects human nations. They will learn to keep the Feasts.

Here is another point...

Eze 39:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.
Eze 39:12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.
Eze 39:13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD.
Eze 39:14 And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search.
Eze 39:15 And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog.
Eze 39:16 And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land.

After this first rebellion of Gog and Magog that occurs at the beginning of the Millenium, men will be continuously employed for seven months burying the dead.

Notice this in Ezek 38...

Eze 38:21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother.
Eze 38:22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.
Eze 38:23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Eze 39:1 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
Eze 39:2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel:
Eze 39:3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand.
Eze 39:4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured. Eze 39:5 Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.

Now in the book of Revelation...

Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

The fire of God DEVOURS these at the end of the Millenium, but back in the book of Ezekiel, humans are burying the dead for seven months.

Eze 39:9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:
Eze 39:10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord GOD.
Eze 39:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.
Eze 39:12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.
Eze 39:13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD.
Eze 39:14 And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search.

These are two different occaisions, one at the beginning of the Millenium and one at the end.

The Millenium itself, will be a utopia on earth with the Kingdom of God governing. David will be the king over all Israel...

Eze 37:21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
Eze 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
Eze 37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
Eze 37:24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

And the Apostles (the original twelve, Matthias in Judas place) will rule over each individual tribe...

Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

And the Millenium is just the beginning...

Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
 

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all everyone needs to know is that we are in the 7 church age the laodicea age the very last chapter the end time where the church leaves this planet and goes home

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Josh, How do you explain then that the two promises made to Philadelphia have not yet been fulfilled and won't be until after the close of probatoin when the wicked shall attempt to execute the death decree upon the faithful few?
Here is another point I disagree with, we don't go there, He comes here...

Joh 13:33 Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you.

Joh 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Joh 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
 
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john832

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Love God
Love People

And you'll doing the right thing.
Tell me how to love God. While you're at it, tell me how to love people.

There are as many opinions as there are people. Who do I believe is correct?