What is the Name of the Father and the Messiah?

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Micah 4:5, “For all people walk each in the name of his strength, but we will walk in the Name of YHWH our Strength forever and ever.”



Psalm 86:8-11, “There is none like You among the gods O YHWH, and there are no works like Your works. All the nations, which You have made, will come and worship in front of You, O YHWH, and glorify Your Name. For You are great and do wondrous things; You Alone, O YHWH, are our Father. Teach us Your way, O YHWH, and we will walk in Your truth! Make us one in heart, to reverence Your Name!”


Psalm 148:1-6, “HalleluYHWH! Praise (YHWH) from the heavens! Praise (YHWH) in the heights! Praise (YHWH), all His malakim! Praise (YHWH), all His hosts! Praise (YHWH), sun and moon! Praise (YHWH), all you stars of light! Praise (YHWH), you heavens of heavens, and you waters above the heavens! Let them praise the Name of YHWH; for He commanded and they were created! He has also established them forever and ever; He has made a decree which will not pass away.”


Psalm 9:10, "They that know Your Name will put their trust in You! Those who seek You, You will not forsake!"


Jeremiah 11:21, “Therefore thus said יהוה concerning the men of Anathoth who are seeking your life, saying, ‘Do not prophesy in the Name of יהוה, lest you die by our hand.”


Acts 4:18-20, “And they called them and commanded them not to speak at all nor to teach in the Name of יהושע, but Kĕpha and Yoḥanan answering them, said, “Whether it is right in the sight of יהוה to listen to you more than to יהוה you judge. For it is impossible for us not to speak of what we saw and heard.”


Acts 5:29, "And Kĕpha and the other emissaries answering, said, “We have to obey יהוה rather than men.”


Mat 23:37-38, “Yerushalayim, Yerushalayim, killing the prophets and stoning those who are sent to her! How often I wished to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, but you would not!"38, "“See! Your house is left to you laid waste,” for I say to you, from now on you shall by no means see Me, until you say, ‘Blessed is He who is coming in the Name of יהוה!’”


Psalm 92:1, “It is good to give thanks to יהוה, And to sing praises to Your Name, O Most High.”
 

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Proverbs 30:4, "Who has ascended into heaven, or descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound up the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His Name? And what is the Name of His Son? Tell me, if you know!"

יהוהYHWH
יהושועYahshua

Malakyah 3:16, "Then those who reverenced YHWH spoke often one to another, and YHWH paid attention and heard them; and a Book of Remembrance was written in His presence of those who gave reverence to YHWH, and who thought uponHis Name."

Psalm 99:3, "They praise Your Name, great and awesome, It is set-apart."
 

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Name of Yahshua

Proverbs 30:4
"Who has ascended into heaven, or descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound up the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His Name? And what is the Name of His Son? Tell me, if you know!"

יהוה YHWH
יהושוע Yahshua

יֵשׁוַּע Yeshuwa

יְהוֹשׁוּעַ YhowShuw`a

Yod, Hey, Waw, Hey = YHWH
Yod, Hey, Waw, Shin, Waw, Ayin = YHWSWA



Jeremiah 11:21, “Therefore thus said יהוה concerning the men of Anathoth who are seeking your life, saying, ‘Do not prophesy in the Name of יהוה, lest you die by our hand.”


Acts 4:18-20, “And they called them and commanded them not to speak at all nor to teach in the Name of יהושע, but Kĕpha and Yoḥanan answering them, said, “Whether it is right in the sight of יהוה to listen to you more than to יהוה you judge. For it is impossible for us not to speak of what we saw and heard.”


Acts 5:29, "And Kĕpha and the other emissaries answering, said, “We have to obeyיהוהrather than men.”


“Jesus” is word #G2424 Ἰησοῦς Iesous (yee-sous') n/p., 1. (meaning) He is Salvation, Yahweh saves (i.e. the Savior)., 2. (person) Jesus (i.e. Yeshua, Yehoshua), the name of our Lord, also called the Last Adam., 3. (person) Joshua (i.e. Yehoshua) an Israelite, the servant and successor of Moses., 4. (person) Jeshua, also called Justus, an Israelite, a coworker with Paul., 5. (NOTE) (“Jesus” is a valid English transliteration, coming from Ancient Hebrew to Koine Greek (via the Septuagint) to Latin to Old English to Modern English. It is completely acceptable to God (Yahweh) for us call upon the Savior's name as “Jesus,” or “Iesous,” or “Yeshua,” or even “Yesu” as in Christian Arabic or in the Fijian Islands, et al. God prepared for all nations to be able to trust in the Savior and to call upon his name by preparing a language dialect for international use: the Hebraic-Koine Greek. Thus, technically and formally, the pronunciation “Iesous” was intentionally established by the Savior as the common basis for Jewish and Gentile acknowledgment of his Redemption and Salvation, going forth as needed into every tribe, native tongue, people, and nation. “Yeshua” is of course delightfully acceptable to him, when it is not used as an exclusionary name. Love edifies)., 6. (NOTE) (Revelation 3:12)., [of Hebrew origin (H3442 as the shortened form of H3091)], KJV: Jesus, Root(s): H3442, See also: H3091


Root word of “Jesus” is word #H3442 יֵשׁוַּע Yeshuwa` (yay-shoo'-ah) n/l., 1. he will save., 2. Jeshua, the name of ten Israelites, also of a place in Israel., [for H3091], KJV: Jeshua. , Root(s): H3091


Root word of “Jesus” is word #H3091 יְהוֹשׁוּעַ YhowShuw`a (yeh-ho-shoo'-ah) n/p., יְהוֹשֻׁעַ YhowShu`a (yeh-ho-shoo'-ah), 1. Yahweh-saved.2. Jehoshua (i.e. Joshua), the Jewish leader., [from H3068 and H3467], KJV: Jehoshua, Jehoshuah, Joshua., Root(s): H3068, H3467, Compare: H1954, H3442


Greek to Hebrew and Hebrew to Greek, Dictionary of Septuagint Words
#G2424 * ̓Ιησου̑ς (iēsous)
iesus H3091 * יְהֻשֻׁעַ יְהוֹשֻׁעַ (yəhušuʿa yəhôšuʿa) yehoshua
iesus H3442 * יֵשׁוּעַ (yēšûʿa) yeshua
 

Hizikyah

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Jeremiah 23:26-27, "How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Yes, they are prophets of the deceit of their own minds; Who devise; plan and scheme, to cause My people to forget My Name through their dreams, which they tell every man to his neighbor, just as their fathers have forgotten My Name for Baal."


Hosea 2:16-23, “And it shall be, in that day,” declares יהוה, “that you call Me Ishi (My Husband) and no longer call Me ‘My Ba‛al (My Lord). And I shall remove the names of the Ba‛als (Lords) from her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name. And in that day I shall make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field, and with the birds of the heavens, and with the creeping creatures of the ground, when bow, and sword, and battle I break from the earth. And I shall make them lie down in safety. And I shall take you as a bride unto Me forever, and take you as a bride unto Me in righteousness, and in right-ruling, and loving-commitment and compassion. And I shall take you as a bride unto Me in trustworthiness, and you shall know יהוה, “And it shall be in that day that I answer,” declares יהוה, “that I answer the heavens, and they answer the earth, and the earth answer the grain and the new wine and the oil, and they answer Yizry‛yl. And I shall sow her for Myself in the earth, and I shall have compassion on her who had not obtained compassion. And I shall say to those who were not My people, ‘You are My people,’ while they say, ‘My Strength!


Zephanyah 3:9, "Yes, at that time I will return to the peoples a pure language, so that all of them may call on the Name of YHWH, and serve Him with one accord."
 

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Revelation 21:1-2, "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no more sea. And I, Yahanan, saw the holy city, YHWH Shammah, coming down from YHWH out of heaven, prepared as brides adorned for their husbands. And I heard a great voice out of heaven, saying: Behold, the tabernacle of YHWH is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and YHWH Himself will be with them, and be their Father.”



Ezekiyl 48:35, "The distance around the city will be eighteen thousand measures; and the name of the city from that day will be: YHWH SHAMMAH (YHWH Is There)."


Revelation 21:4-8 And YHWH will wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there will be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, nor will there be any more pain, for the former things have passed away. And He Who sat upon the throne, said: Behold, I make all things new. And He said to me: Write, for these words are true and faithful. And He said to me: It is done! I am Aleph and Tau, the Beginning and the End. I will give to him who thirsts of the fountain of the water of life freely. He who overcomes will inherit all things; and I will be his Father, and he will be My son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and worshipers of false gods, and all liars, will have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”


Isaiah 60:20, “No longer does your sun go down, nor your moon withdraw itself, for יהוה shall be your everlasting light, and the days of your mourning shall be ended.”


Revelation 21:23, “And the city had no need of the sun, nor of the moon, to shine in it, for the esteem of Yah lightened it, and the Lamb is its lamp.”


Jeremiah 31:34, “And no longer shall they teach, each one his neighbor, and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know יהוה,’ for they shall all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares יהוה. “For I shall forgive their crookedness, and remember their sin no more.”
 

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A language expert long ago told me that YHVH is pronounced yach véch (CH sound as in German ICH, Dutch SCHOEN, or Scottish LOCH).

Well, at least that's what he said.

I think that "THE NAME OF GOD" is synonym with "GOD". The name must be respected, of course, but what really matters is God Himself, even if He is called by a name that is not exactly the original one
 

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A language expert long ago told me that YHVH is pronounced yach véch (CH sound as in German ICH, Dutch SCHOEN, or Scottish LOCH).

Well, at least that's what he said.

I think that "THE NAME OF GOD" is synonym with "GOD". The name must be respected, of course, but what really matters is God Himself, even if He is called by a name that is not exactly the original one
I mostly agree with whay you say, I personlly don't see pronunciation as a point of seperation or centention, I do believe that the V (vav) sound in Hebrew originally but rather a W (waw), but again to me each man must do what he feels is right, prayer and study!

Psalms 95:1-3, “Come, let us sing to יהוה! Let us raise a shout to the Rock of our salvation. Let us come before His face with thanksgiving; Let us raise a shout to Him in song. For יהוה is a great Strength, and a great Sovereign above all mighty ones.”

Exodus 34:5-7, "Then YHWH descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and
proclaimed the Name of YHWH. YHWH passed in front of him, and proclaimed: YHWH, YHWH Almighty, merciful and compassionate, longsuffering, and abounding in righteousness and truth. Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity, and transgression, and sin; but by no means leaving unpunished those who are guilty; Who visits the sin of the fathers upon the children and the children's children, to the third and fourth generation."

1 Corinthians 1:28-31, “And יהוה has chosen the low-born of the world and the despised, and the ones that are not, that He might bring to naught the ones that are, so that no flesh should boast in His presence. And of Him you are in Messiah יהושע, who became for us wisdom from יהוה, righteousness also, and set-apartness and redemption, that, as it has been written, “He who boasts, let him boast in יהוה.” (Jer 9:23-24)

Jeremiah 9:23-26, “Thus said יהוה, “Let not the wise boast in his wisdom, let not the mighty boast in his might, nor let the rich boast in his riches, but let him who boasts boast of this, that he understands and knows Me, that I am יהוה, doing loving-commitment, judgment, and righteousness in the earth. For in these I delight,” declares יהוה, “See, the days are coming,” declares יהוה, “when I shall punish all circumcised with the uncircumcised; Mitsrayim, and Yehuḏah, and Eḏom, and the children of Ammon, and Mo’aḇ, and all those trimmed on the edges, who dwell in the wilderness. For all the nations are uncircumcised, and all the house of Yisra’ĕl are uncircumcised in heart!”


 

Hizikyah

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 32:3-4, "For I will proclaim YHWH's great Name! Praise the greatness of YHWH! He is The Rock. His works are perfect; YHWH's ways are justice indeed! He is the Father of truth, and does no wrong. Upright and Just is He."[/FONT]
 

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We do not know the correct pointing or pronunciation of the present active Participle יהוה I AM continuously.

We are told in Exo 3:14 the correct pointing of the imperfect אֶהְיֶ֥ה I Will Be. (God refers to Himself by this name also.)

We are told in Exo 2:22 the correct pointing of the perfect הָיִ֔יתִי I have been. (This is not used as God's name.)

Regarding the form of present active Participle יהוה , we know that the the initial consonant takes a cholem יֹ, and the first he ה is pointed with a shvah הְ. the yod cholem 'he' is pronounced yoh not yah. We have no idea how the vahvו is pointed but we know that it functions as a consonant with a 'v' plus a vowel. We have no idea whether or not the second he ה is pointed; so we don't know if there are two or three syllables.
 
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Proverbs 30:4, "Who has ascended into heaven, or descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound up the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His Name? And what is the Name of His Son? Tell me, if you know!"

יהוהYHWH
יהושועYahshua

Malakyah 3:16, "Then those who reverenced YHWH spoke often one to another, and YHWH paid attention and heard them; and a Book of Remembrance was written in His presence of those who gave reverence to YHWH, and who thought uponHis Name."

Psalm 99:3, "They praise Your Name, great and awesome, It is set-apart."


There is NO POSSIBLE WAY to get Yahshua from יהושוע . יהושוע is yohashua translated as Joshua, meaning Yoh is the Savior or Yoh Saves.

The name of our Savior in Hebrew is יְשׁוּעָ Yeshua Salvation. Virtually the same in all 5 dialects with minor variations in the sound of the yod.
 

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There is NO POSSIBLE WAY to get Yahshua from יהושוע . יהושוע is yohashua translated as Joshua, meaning Yoh is the Savior or Yoh Saves.

The name of our Savior in Hebrew is יְשׁוּעָ Yeshua Salvation. Virtually the same in all 5 dialects with minor variations in the sound of the yod.
You must have ignored the rest of that post because I showed this:

יְהוֹשׁוּעַ YhowShuw`a

Yashua is simply a common english rendering, I don't see people freaking out when YhowShuw`a ben Nun is called Joshua, I use a form that is true to the original yet easy to pronounce, and am not a condemmer of others who choose to use something different. His true name rendered in English would be something like "YhwShuw`a"

How one believes the "Yh" should be pronounced seems to be personal belief and understanding of Hebrew.

You use the form Yeshua, the name used in the 2nd temple persoid because the ban on using the Name YHWH, I do not beleive the Holy Spirit of YHWH followed the pharisee/rabbinical ban.

 

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We do not know the correct pointing or pronunciation of the present active Participle יהוה I AM continuously.
Before around 600 ad there were no vowel points, the vowel points were aded at least in part to prohibit the pronuciation of His name and rather use adonai and elohim;

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]THE PROHIBITION OF USE OF THE NAMES OF GOD. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The prohibition applies both to the pronunciation of the name of God and its committal to writing, apart from its use in sacred writings. The prohibition against the pronunciation of the name of God applies only to the Tetragrammaton, which could be pronounced by the high priest only once a year on the Day of Atonement in the Holy of Holies (cf. Mishnah Yoma 6:2), and in the Temple by the priests when they recited the Priestly Blessings (Sot. 7:6; see also Ch. Albeck (ed.), Seder Nashim (1954), 387). As the Talmud expresses it: "Not as I am written am I pronounced. I am written yod he vav he, and I am pronounced alef dalet" (nun yod, i.e., Adonai; Kid. 71a).

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume 7 page 680[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The personal name... written in the Hebrew Bible with the four consonants YHWH and is referred to as the "Tetragrammaton." At least until the destruction of the First Temple in 586 B.C.E. this name was regularly pronounced with its proper vowels, as is clear from the Lachish Letters, written shortly before that date. But at least by the third century B.C.E. the pronunciation of the name YHWH was avoided and Adonai,"the Lord,"was substituted for it.[/FONT]

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We are told in Exo 3:14 the correct pointing of the imperfect אֶהְיֶ֥ה I Will Be. (God refers to Himself by this name also.)

We are told in Exo 2:22 the correct pointing of the perfect הָיִ֔יתִי I have been. (This is not used as God's name.)

Regarding the form of present active Participle יהוה , we know that the the initial consonant takes a cholem יֹ, and the first he ה is pointed with a shvah הְ. the yod cholem 'he' is pronounced yoh not yah. We have no idea how the vahvו is pointed but we know that it functions as a consonant with a 'v' plus a vowel. We have no idea whether or not the second he ה is pointed; so we don't know if there are two or three syllables.
and His name was pronounced since Genesis;

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 4:26, "And as for Seth, to him also a son was born; and he named him Enosh. It was then that the Name of YHWH began to be invoked again."

it is jewish talmudic superstition that says the name in unpronouncable;

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Talmud - Mas. Yoma 39b[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]His brethren [that year] the priests forbore to mention the Ineffable Name (YHWH) in pronouncing the [priestly] blessing.4 Our Rabbis taught: During the last forty years before the destruction of the Temple the lot [‘For the Lord’] did not come up in the right hand; nor did the crimson-coloured strap become white/"[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]International Standard Bible Encyclopedia - ADONAI[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]a-do'-ni, ad-o-na'-i ('adhonay): A Divine name, translated "Lord," and signifying, from its derivation, "sovereignty." Its vowels are found in the Massoretic Text with the unpronounceable tetragrammaton YHWH; and when the Hebrew reader came to these letters, he always substituted in pronunciation the word " 'adhonay," (Lord). Its vowels combined with the tetragrammaton form the word "YHWH (YHWH)."[/FONT]
 

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Hizikyah, you have been caught out in your falseness.
 

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Is this something that can be known by us? The angel that spoke to Manoah said that his name was secret. So if the angels names are secret, would our Lord or our God reveal their true names to us? Jehovah means He that is. Jesus means God saves. Gabriel means man of God. God told Moses his name is I Am. Another name given for our Lord is Emmanuel which means God with us. So can we ever know their true names?
 
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I just call Him Lord or Father. He does not tell me I have offended Him. We share a meal together often. :)
 
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Hi All

Personally, I do not mind what people feel happy about naming or calling God as long as it is has biblical use I think it is ok. For me I use the name Jesus (Matthew 1:21) meaning Saviour or Heavenly Father as told us by Jesus how we should address God in prayer (Matthew 6:9).

If you do a study in God's Word on the different names used to describe God you will find God uses many names because the naming convention used by the Hebrews was for description purposes so how can you describe the all powerful God of the UNIVERSE with one name right? After all he is God. This is why he is known by many names in His Word.

The following is a list of names used and meanings to refer to God throughout God's Word.............

EL, ELOAH [el, el-oh-ah]: God "mighty, strong, prominent" (Nehemiah 9:17; Psalm 139:19) – etymologically, El appears to mean “power” and “might” (Genesis 31:29). El is associated with other qualities, such as integrity (Numbers 23:19), jealousy (Deuteronomy 5:9), and compassion (Nehemiah 9:31), but the root idea of “might” remains.

ELOHIM [el-oh-heem]: God “Creator, Mighty and Strong” (Genesis 17:7; Jeremiah 31:33) – the plural form of Eloah, which accommodates the doctrine of the Trinity. From the Bible’s first sentence, the superlative nature of God’s power is evident as God (Elohim) speaks the world into existence (Genesis 1:1).

EL SHADDAI [el-shah-dahy]: “God Almighty,” “The Mighty One of Jacob” (Genesis 49:24; Psalm 132:2,5) – speaks to God’s ultimate power over all.

ADONAI [ˌædɒˈnaɪ; ah-daw-nahy]: “Lord” (Genesis 15:2; Judges 6:15) – used in place of YHWH, which was thought by the Jews to be too sacred to be uttered by sinful men. In the Old Testament, YHWH is more often used in God’s dealings with His people, while Adonai is used more when He deals with the Gentiles.

YHWH / YAHWEH / JEHOVAH [yah-way / ji-hoh-veh]: “LORD” (Deuteronomy 6:4; Daniel 9:14) – strictly speaking, the only proper name for God. Translated in English Bibles “LORD” (all capitals) to distinguish it from Adonai, “Lord.” The revelation of the name is first given to Moses “I Am who I Am” (Exodus 3:14). This name specifies an immediacy, a presence. Yahweh is present, accessible, near to those who call on Him for deliverance (Psalm 107:13), forgiveness (Psalm 25:11) and guidance (Psalm 31:3).

YAHWEH-JIREH [yah-way-ji-reh]: "The Lord Will Provide" (Genesis 22:14) – the name memorialized by Abraham when God provided the ram to be sacrificed in place of Isaac.

YAHWEH-RAPHA [yah-way-raw-faw]: "The Lord Who Heals" (Exodus 15:26) – “I am Jehovah who heals you” both in body and soul. In body, by preserving from and curing diseases, and in soul, by pardoning iniquities.

YAHWEH-NISSI [yah-way-nee-see]: "The Lord Our Banner" (Exodus 17:15), where banner is understood to be a rallying place. This name commemorates the desert victory over the Amalekites in Exodus 17.

YAHWEH-M'KADDESH [yah-way-meh-kad-esh]: "The Lord Who Sanctifies, Makes Holy" (Leviticus 20:8; Ezekiel 37:28) – God makes it clear that He alone, not the law, can cleanse His people and make them holy.

YAHWEH-SHALOM [yah-way-shah-lohm]: "The Lord Our Peace" (Judges 6:24) – the name given by Gideon to the altar he built after the Angel of the Lord assured him he would not die as he thought he would after seeing Him.

YAHWEH-ELOHIM [yah-way-el-oh-him]: "LORD God" (Genesis 2:4; Psalm 59:5) – a combination of God’s unique name YHWH and the generic “Lord,” signifying that He is the Lord of Lords.

YAHWEH-TSIDKENU [yah-way-tzid-kay-noo]: "The Lord Our Righteousness” (Jeremiah 33:16) – As with YHWH-M’Kaddesh, it is God alone who provides righteousness (from the Hebrew word tsidkenu) to man, ultimately in the person of His Son, Jesus Christ, who became sin for us “that we might become the Righteousness of God in Him” (2 Corinthians 5:21).

YAHWEH-ROHI [yah-way-roh-hee]: "The Lord Our Shepherd" (Psalm 23:1) – After David pondered his relationship as a shepherd to his sheep, he realized that was exactly the relationship God had with him, and so he declares, “Yahweh-Rohi is my Shepherd. I shall not want” (Psalm 23:1).

YAHWEH-SHAMMAH [yah-way-sham-mahw]: "The Lord Is There” (Ezekiel 48:35) – the name ascribed to Jerusalem and the Temple there, indicating that the once-departed glory of the Lord (Ezekiel 8—11) had returned (Ezekiel 44:1-4).

YAHWEH-SABAOTH [yah-way-sah-bah-ohth]: "The Lord of Hosts" (Isaiah 1:24; Psalm 46:7) – Hosts means “hordes,” both of angels and of men. He is Lord of the host of heaven and of the inhabitants of the earth, of Jews and Gentiles, of rich and poor, master and slave. The name is expressive of the majesty, power, and authority of God and shows that He is able to accomplish what He determines to do.

EL ELYON [el-el-yohn]: “Most High" (Deuteronomy 26:19) – derived from the Hebrew root for “go up” or “ascend,” so the implication is of that which is the very highest. El Elyon denotes exaltation and speaks of absolute right to lordship.

EL ROI [el-roh-ee]: "God of Seeing" (Genesis 16:13) – the name ascribed to God by Hagar, alone and desperate in the wilderness after being driven out by Sarah (Genesis 16:1-14). When Hagar met the Angel of the Lord, she realized she had seen God Himself in a theophany. She also realized that El Roi saw her in her distress and testified that He is a God who lives and sees all.

EL-OLAM [el-oh-lahm]: "Everlasting God" (Psalm 90:1-3) – God’s nature is without beginning or end, free from all constraints of time, and He contains within Himself the very cause of time itself. “From everlasting to everlasting, You are God.”

EL-GIBHOR [el-ghee-bohr]: “Mighty God” (Isaiah 9:6) – the name describing the Messiah, Christ Jesus, in this prophetic portion of Isaiah. As a powerful and mighty warrior, the Messiah, the Mighty God, will accomplish the destruction of God’s enemies and rule with a rod of iron (Revelation 19:15). (see here for source)

So if you want to refer to God as Jesus; Heavenly Father; Yahshua; then praise His wonderful name. Anything else is a distraction and side issue.

May God bless you all as you seek Him who LOVES you and has called you out of the world to LOVE others as he has first LOVED you.

 

Hizikyah

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Is this something that can be known by us? The angel that spoke to Manoah said that his name was secret. So if the angels names are secret, would our Lord or our God reveal their true names to us? Jehovah means He that is. Jesus means God saves. Gabriel means man of God. God told Moses his name is I Am. Another name given for our Lord is Emmanuel which means God with us. So can we ever know their true names?
Is is revealed in Scriptrue over 6,000 times.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Exodus 3:14-15, "And the Mighty One said to Mosheh, “I am that I am.” and He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Yisra’ĕl, ‘I am (the Self-Existing One - The Heḇrew text reads: ’eheyeh ’asher ’eheyeh, the word ’eheyeh, being derived from hayah, which means to be, to exist) has sent me to you.’ And the Mighty One said further to Mosheh, “Thus you are to say to the children of Yisra’ĕl, ‘[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Strength of your fathers, the Strength of Aḇraham, the Strength of Yitsḥaq, and the Strength of Ya‛aqoḇ, has sent me to you. This is My Name forever, and this is My remembrance to all generations."

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isayah 42:8, "I am YHWH, that is MY NAME; and My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."

I do believe He has thus revealed His name to humankind, but each must do what they feel is right beofore our Father, I simply wanted a threa to show in Scripture what has been written.
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phil36

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Hi All

Personally, I do not mind what people feel happy about naming or calling God as long as it is has biblical use I think it is ok. For me I use the name Jesus

So if you want to refer to God as Jesus; Heavenly Father; Yahshua; then praise His wonderful name. Anything else is a distraction and side issue.

May God bless you all as you seek Him who LOVES you and has called you out of the world to LOVE others as he has first LOVED you.


Obviously you don't care much as Yahshua is not the name of Jesus.
 

Hizikyah

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I just call Him Lord or Father. He does not tell me I have offended Him. We share a meal together often. :)
Father is a very endearing term I also enjoy calling Him Father!

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 21:7, "“The one who overcomes shall inherit all this, and I shall be his Father and he shall be My son."

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalms 95:1-3, “Come, let us sing to [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]! Let us raise a shout to the Rock of our salvation. Let us come before His face with thanksgiving; Let us raise a shout to Him in song. For [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is a great Strength, and a great Sovereign above all mighty ones.”[/FONT]

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Hizikyah

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Hizikyah, you have been caught out in your falseness.
You supply ther teachings of men over Scripture and accuse left and right, I have no worries about your assessments.

Obviously you don't care much as Yahshua is not the name of Jesus.
perfect example.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matthew 7:1-5, “Do not judge, lest you be judged. For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged. And with the same measure you use, it shall be measured to you. And why do you look at the splinter in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the plank in your own eye? Or how is it that you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the splinter out of your eye,’ and see, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you shall see clearly to remove the splinter out of your brother’s eye.”[/FONT]