What laws are still in affect?
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perhaps it is not a question of ceremonial cleanliness that is important ..... deliberate disobedience and lack of faith in Yahweh though, that is serious.
if , or rather since, Yahwehs' Word is true, including all of His Word which includes "My people perish for lack of knowledge" and "the curse causeless shall not come" and likewise the various curses Yahweh decrees in His Word (which people rarely find out about and even when
they do they usually deny Yahweh instead of agree with Him.....
Here's a site/page/information source for those who wonder what is true from biblical times, biblical people, and Yahweh's Word unknown to western society for the majority >>>>
Clean vs. unclean animals finally explained!
I copied a page or a lot from the site, and was going to post the quotes which are all subject to testing, but it's too late. So if anyone wants to
see what it says.... you will certainly be blessed if you love truth. (that's Yahweh's Promise, not mine).\
p.s. edited to note this for the previous poster: the site/link explains what was considered food by Yahweh and Adam and Havah and Abraham and so on --- it's not what you expect, and entirely lines up with all Torah and Scripture.
if , or rather since, Yahwehs' Word is true, including all of His Word which includes "My people perish for lack of knowledge" and "the curse causeless shall not come" and likewise the various curses Yahweh decrees in His Word (which people rarely find out about and even when
they do they usually deny Yahweh instead of agree with Him.....
Here's a site/page/information source for those who wonder what is true from biblical times, biblical people, and Yahweh's Word unknown to western society for the majority >>>>
Clean vs. unclean animals finally explained!
I copied a page or a lot from the site, and was going to post the quotes which are all subject to testing, but it's too late. So if anyone wants to
see what it says.... you will certainly be blessed if you love truth. (that's Yahweh's Promise, not mine).\
p.s. edited to note this for the previous poster: the site/link explains what was considered food by Yahweh and Adam and Havah and Abraham and so on --- it's not what you expect, and entirely lines up with all Torah and Scripture.
M
1Ti 4:1 ¶ Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
Is a pig a creature of God? yes and a tasty one at that
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
Is a pig a creature of God? yes and a tasty one at that
1Ti 4:1 ¶ Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
Is a pig a creature of God? yes and a tasty one at that
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
Is a pig a creature of God? yes and a tasty one at that
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
So, your ranting and raving and leaving out context cannot change the fact that certain meats are set apart by the Word of God. Now where do we find meats set apart by the Word of God?
Lev 11 and Deut 14.
Do you build a handrail around your deck? Do you put a barricade around an open pit? These are Laws. If you do them without knowing why...
Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
If I did do these things, I would do them out of safety concerns... when I said I don't do any particular actions because of a rule in the law, I meant the law of Moses... so, even if they are written in the law, I'm not doing them just because they are written in the law...
Hi KohenMatt!
I put this question up in post 184
"one point I'm interested in is what is the practical difference between a person who keeps the law and the person who doesn't think they need to keep the law, but consults it for wisdom in how to live better."
I'm interested in your (and everyone's) take on it.
I put this question up in post 184
"one point I'm interested in is what is the practical difference between a person who keeps the law and the person who doesn't think they need to keep the law, but consults it for wisdom in how to live better."
I'm interested in your (and everyone's) take on it.
an interesting article... one thing the author seems to be saying is that God prohibited pork because it is unhealthy... I have very strong doubts that a human can know why God did something... God is 'the only wise God', and has access to wisdom far beyond what humans can get... so the 'why' behind what God does is not knowable by humans, I believe.
I've read it and commented on it before but, here we go again...
Gen 9:3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
NASB says...
"Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant.
So He gave everything moving just like He gave the green plants. Let me ask something, how about a big serving of hemlock? Or perhaps some cherry leaves?
Those are green plants and He gave meats just as He gave the green plants. Some plants are not to be eaten just as some meats are not to be eaten. It shouldn't be too hard to understand that.
Prior to this, there were clean and unclean animals (Gen 7:2), what happened here? Did God serendipitously change His mind? Does He do that every now and again just to keep people on their toes? Or are the same animals clean and unclean as they were then and will they be the same in the future?
In the mean time, would you eat some castor beans? After all, "as I gave the green plant".
Gen 9:3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
NASB says...
"Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant.
So He gave everything moving just like He gave the green plants. Let me ask something, how about a big serving of hemlock? Or perhaps some cherry leaves?
Those are green plants and He gave meats just as He gave the green plants. Some plants are not to be eaten just as some meats are not to be eaten. It shouldn't be too hard to understand that.
Prior to this, there were clean and unclean animals (Gen 7:2), what happened here? Did God serendipitously change His mind? Does He do that every now and again just to keep people on their toes? Or are the same animals clean and unclean as they were then and will they be the same in the future?
In the mean time, would you eat some castor beans? After all, "as I gave the green plant".
M
1Ti 4:1 ¶ Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
Is a pig a creature of God? Yes I think so
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
Is a pig a creature of God? Yes I think so
1Ti 4:1 ¶ Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
Is a pig a creature of God? Yes I think so
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
Is a pig a creature of God? Yes I think so
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