What laws are still in affect?
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Okay I see now.. 
HalleluYAH
I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. (*Romans *11:*11 KJV)
And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. (*Isaiah *49:*6 KJV)
For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. (*Acts *13:*47 KJV)
Paul is a israelite not a Jew there is not one Christian in this book and yes the Jews went over board but Paul kept these laws that I posted and
One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you. (*Exodus *12:*49 KJV)One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you. (*Numbers *15:*16 KJV)
HalleluYAH I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. (*Romans *11:*11 KJV)
And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. (*Isaiah *49:*6 KJV)
For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. (*Acts *13:*47 KJV)
Paul is a israelite not a Jew there is not one Christian in this book and yes the Jews went over board but Paul kept these laws that I posted and
One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you. (*Exodus *12:*49 KJV)One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you. (*Numbers *15:*16 KJV)
Do you know why? I don't think you have read the whole chapter.
The question was NEVER about the Ten Commandments...
Act 15:1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
Act 15:2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
What question? The question concerning physical circumcision.
There were certain CONVERTED men who still thought that circumcision was of the flesh and taught such. They had not grown to understand that the circumcision of the New Covenant was that of the heart.
They were not rotten sinners, they had incomplete knowledge.
Please notice the Ten Commandments are not mentioned here. It took a headquarters conference to decide circumcision, had this been the Ten Commandments under discussion the uproar would have consumed several books of the New Testament, instead the Ten Commandments are not even mentioned.
The question was NEVER about the Ten Commandments...
Act 15:1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
Act 15:2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
What question? The question concerning physical circumcision.
There were certain CONVERTED men who still thought that circumcision was of the flesh and taught such. They had not grown to understand that the circumcision of the New Covenant was that of the heart.
They were not rotten sinners, they had incomplete knowledge.
Please notice the Ten Commandments are not mentioned here. It took a headquarters conference to decide circumcision, had this been the Ten Commandments under discussion the uproar would have consumed several books of the New Testament, instead the Ten Commandments are not even mentioned.
Okay I see now.. HalleluYAH
I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. (*Romans *11:*11 KJV)
And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. (*Isaiah *49:*6 KJV)
For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. (*Acts *13:*47 KJV)
Paul is a israelite not a Jew there is not one Christian in this book and yes the Jews went over board but Paul kept these laws that I posted and
One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you. (*Exodus *12:*49 KJV)One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you. (*Numbers *15:*16 KJV)
HalleluYAH I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. (*Romans *11:*11 KJV)
And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. (*Isaiah *49:*6 KJV)
For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. (*Acts *13:*47 KJV)
Paul is a israelite not a Jew there is not one Christian in this book and yes the Jews went over board but Paul kept these laws that I posted and
One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you. (*Exodus *12:*49 KJV)One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you. (*Numbers *15:*16 KJV)
What has that to do with the subject?
Wow! Ok listen up
TEN COMMANDMENTS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT
Churches across the world teach that God's Ten Commandments were abolished - nailed to the cross with Jesus Christ and that they are no longer required to be kept under the New Covenant. Is this what Jesus and His Apostles taught? Did they continue to teach and observe the commandments? What does the Bible say?
In Matthew 5:17, Jesus declared, "Think NOT that I am come to destroy the Law . . ." So WHY is it that this is what people think? Jesus clearly said DO NOT EVEN THINK THIS, yet ministers and Bible "scholars" alike go ahead and GO AGAINST Jesus' clear teaching by saying that we do not have to keep God's Law. We are warned of these FALSE teachers by the apostle Paul in 2Cor 11:13-15, "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness: whose end shall be according to their works." Satan's ministers pawn themselves off as Jesus' ministers and Satan makes himself out to be Christ!!!
The apostle John taught throughout his writings that the law is still to be observed by God's people. You could read in John 5:14 & 8:11 where Jesus told people to "sin no more". WHAT IS SIN? I Jn 3:4 states, " . . . sin is the transgression of the law". SIN IS THE BREAKING OF GOD'S COMMANDMENTS! Jesus said not to break them anymore!! John said that we don't even know Jesus IF WE DON"T keep the commandments (I Jn 2:3-6). He continued to show that we are to keep the commandments in the book of Revelation. Rev 12:17 says, "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Now read Rev 14:12, "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." Rev 22:14 states: "Blessed are they that do His commandments . . . "
What about the apostle Paul? False teachers take Paul's writings out of context to say the Law is done away with. The apostle Peter gave warning of this in 2Pet 3:15,16. Paul himself kept the law and declared, "Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good". He wrote to the Romans that ". . . the doers of the law shall be justified" (Rom 2:13). Concerning the GRACE of God that we are under, he asked, " . . . Shall we continue in sin (lawbreaking), that grace may abound? God forbid! (the Greek words here mean, "May it never be conceived of" - DON'T EVEN THINK IT!) How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?" (Rom 6:1,2). And concerning Law and Faith he asks, "Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid (Again - MAY IT NEVER BE CONCEIVED): Yea, we establish the law". (Rom 3:31)
These are just a few of the many Scriptures which show the Truth of Lawkeeping for Christians. Let's now take a survey of the New Testament and make a list of the Ten Commandments as they appear throughout it. We'll list each of the commandments as they appear in Exodus 20 first, followed by their New Testament counterparts.
TEN COMMANDMENTS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT
Churches across the world teach that God's Ten Commandments were abolished - nailed to the cross with Jesus Christ and that they are no longer required to be kept under the New Covenant. Is this what Jesus and His Apostles taught? Did they continue to teach and observe the commandments? What does the Bible say?
In Matthew 5:17, Jesus declared, "Think NOT that I am come to destroy the Law . . ." So WHY is it that this is what people think? Jesus clearly said DO NOT EVEN THINK THIS, yet ministers and Bible "scholars" alike go ahead and GO AGAINST Jesus' clear teaching by saying that we do not have to keep God's Law. We are warned of these FALSE teachers by the apostle Paul in 2Cor 11:13-15, "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness: whose end shall be according to their works." Satan's ministers pawn themselves off as Jesus' ministers and Satan makes himself out to be Christ!!!
The apostle John taught throughout his writings that the law is still to be observed by God's people. You could read in John 5:14 & 8:11 where Jesus told people to "sin no more". WHAT IS SIN? I Jn 3:4 states, " . . . sin is the transgression of the law". SIN IS THE BREAKING OF GOD'S COMMANDMENTS! Jesus said not to break them anymore!! John said that we don't even know Jesus IF WE DON"T keep the commandments (I Jn 2:3-6). He continued to show that we are to keep the commandments in the book of Revelation. Rev 12:17 says, "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Now read Rev 14:12, "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." Rev 22:14 states: "Blessed are they that do His commandments . . . "
What about the apostle Paul? False teachers take Paul's writings out of context to say the Law is done away with. The apostle Peter gave warning of this in 2Pet 3:15,16. Paul himself kept the law and declared, "Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good". He wrote to the Romans that ". . . the doers of the law shall be justified" (Rom 2:13). Concerning the GRACE of God that we are under, he asked, " . . . Shall we continue in sin (lawbreaking), that grace may abound? God forbid! (the Greek words here mean, "May it never be conceived of" - DON'T EVEN THINK IT!) How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?" (Rom 6:1,2). And concerning Law and Faith he asks, "Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid (Again - MAY IT NEVER BE CONCEIVED): Yea, we establish the law". (Rom 3:31)
These are just a few of the many Scriptures which show the Truth of Lawkeeping for Christians. Let's now take a survey of the New Testament and make a list of the Ten Commandments as they appear throughout it. We'll list each of the commandments as they appear in Exodus 20 first, followed by their New Testament counterparts.
NO ONE/NOTHING BEFORE GOD
1st Commandment OT: "I am the LORD thy God, Which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me." (Ex 20:2,3)
1st Commandment NT: " . . . Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. " (Matt 4:10/Luke 4:8)
"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.Ye cannot serve God and mammon." (Mt 6:24)
IDOLATRY
2nd Commandment OT: "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous GOD, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fouth generation of them that hate Me; And shewing mercy unto thousands who love Me, and keep my commandments." (Ex 20:4-6)
2nd Commandment NT: "But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols . . . "(Acts15:20)
"Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:" (Acts 17:29,30)
" . . . I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat." (1Cor 5:11)
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." (1Cor 6:9,10)
"Neither be ye idolaters." (1Cor 10:7)
"Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry." (1Cor 10:14)
"Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led." (1Cor 12:2)
"And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols?" (2Cor 6:16)
"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God." (Gal 5:19-21)
"For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God." (Eph 5:5) [This verse and the next both show the connection between covetousness and idolatry - when you covet something, it becomes your idol, and therefore your god (breaking the 1st commandment also)]
"Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry." (Col 3:5)
" . . . how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God." (1Thes 1:9)
"Little children, keep yourselves from idols." (1Jn 5:21)
"And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk." (Rev 9:20)
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Rev 21:8)
"For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie." (Rev 22:15)
VAIN USE OF LORD'S NAME
3rd Commandment OT: "Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh His name in vain." (Ex 20:7)
3rd Commandment NT: "Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name." (Mt 6:9/Lk 11:2)
"I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment." (Mt 12:36)
"This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." (Mt 15:8,9)
"And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." (Mt 23:9)
" . . . that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed." (1Tim 6:1)
SEVENTH DAY SABBATH
4th Commandment OT: "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy, six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day; wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it." (Ex 20:8-11)
4th Commandment NT: "For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day." (Mt12:8/Lk 6:5) [So the Sabbath is the TRUE Lord's Day]
" . . . it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days." (Mt12:12)
"But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day."(Mt 24:20 speaking of the time of tribulation just before His second coming)
" . . . they went into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he (Jesus) entered into the synagogue, and taught." (Mk1:21)
"And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath." (Mk 2:27,28) [Notice: The Sabbath is NOT just for Jews, or Israelites, or Hebrews, or Semites (descendants of Shem), but FOR ALL MANKIND]
"And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach . . . " (Mk 6:2)
"And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day . . . " (Lk 4:16)
" . . . (Jesus) taught them on the sabbath days." (Lk 4:31)
AFTER JESUS' DEATH, HIS DISCIPLES OBSERVED THE SABBATH:
"And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid. And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment." (Lk 23:55,56) [ This occured after Jesus' death obviously, which is when the false teachers claim the law was done away. They say the law was "nailed to the cross", but His disciples obviously didn't believe that, as we see here, they "rested the Sabbath day according to the commandment"]
" . . . when they (the apostles) departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day." (Acts13:14)
"And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath." (Acts13:42) [Notice: the Gentiles (non-jews) wanted to hear the word of God on the next Sabbath. Paul DID NOT tell them, "Come back tomorrow, the first day of the week, because that's the day us Christians keep." He had them return the following SABBATH]
"And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God." (Acts13:44)
"For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day." (Acts15:21)
"And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made." (Acts16:13)
"And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures." (Acts17:2)
"And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks." (Acts18:4)
"For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works." (Heb 4:4) [See Eph 5:1 where it states that we are to be imitators of God.]
"There remaineth therefore a rest [See margin: Greek word is "Sabbatismos" which means "Sabbath-keeping"] to the people of God." (Heb 4:9)
"For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD." (Isaiah 66:22,23) [I realize this is an OT scripture, BUT as you can clearly see here, this is dealing with the NEW heavens and earth (after Christ's return) and it states that ALL shall keep the Sabbath then. It seems quite preposterous, that God would give the seventh day Sabbath to mankind at creation (Gen 2:1-3), re-introduce it to Israel BEFORE Sinai - after they lost sight of it in captivity (Ex 16:4,23,27-29), codify it at Sinai (Ex:20) having all His people observe it, including Christ, then change it to Sunday, just to change it back to Friday sunset - Saturday sunset. THE SABBATH HAS NEVER CHANGED AND IS STILL TO BE OBSERVED!]
1st Commandment OT: "I am the LORD thy God, Which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me." (Ex 20:2,3)
1st Commandment NT: " . . . Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. " (Matt 4:10/Luke 4:8)
"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.Ye cannot serve God and mammon." (Mt 6:24)
IDOLATRY
2nd Commandment OT: "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous GOD, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fouth generation of them that hate Me; And shewing mercy unto thousands who love Me, and keep my commandments." (Ex 20:4-6)
2nd Commandment NT: "But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols . . . "(Acts15:20)
"Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:" (Acts 17:29,30)
" . . . I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat." (1Cor 5:11)
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." (1Cor 6:9,10)
"Neither be ye idolaters." (1Cor 10:7)
"Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry." (1Cor 10:14)
"Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led." (1Cor 12:2)
"And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols?" (2Cor 6:16)
"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God." (Gal 5:19-21)
"For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God." (Eph 5:5) [This verse and the next both show the connection between covetousness and idolatry - when you covet something, it becomes your idol, and therefore your god (breaking the 1st commandment also)]
"Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry." (Col 3:5)
" . . . how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God." (1Thes 1:9)
"Little children, keep yourselves from idols." (1Jn 5:21)
"And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk." (Rev 9:20)
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Rev 21:8)
"For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie." (Rev 22:15)
VAIN USE OF LORD'S NAME
3rd Commandment OT: "Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh His name in vain." (Ex 20:7)
3rd Commandment NT: "Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name." (Mt 6:9/Lk 11:2)
"I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment." (Mt 12:36)
"This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." (Mt 15:8,9)
"And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." (Mt 23:9)
" . . . that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed." (1Tim 6:1)
SEVENTH DAY SABBATH
4th Commandment OT: "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy, six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day; wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it." (Ex 20:8-11)
4th Commandment NT: "For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day." (Mt12:8/Lk 6:5) [So the Sabbath is the TRUE Lord's Day]
" . . . it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days." (Mt12:12)
"But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day."(Mt 24:20 speaking of the time of tribulation just before His second coming)
" . . . they went into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he (Jesus) entered into the synagogue, and taught." (Mk1:21)
"And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath." (Mk 2:27,28) [Notice: The Sabbath is NOT just for Jews, or Israelites, or Hebrews, or Semites (descendants of Shem), but FOR ALL MANKIND]
"And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach . . . " (Mk 6:2)
"And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day . . . " (Lk 4:16)
" . . . (Jesus) taught them on the sabbath days." (Lk 4:31)
AFTER JESUS' DEATH, HIS DISCIPLES OBSERVED THE SABBATH:
"And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid. And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment." (Lk 23:55,56) [ This occured after Jesus' death obviously, which is when the false teachers claim the law was done away. They say the law was "nailed to the cross", but His disciples obviously didn't believe that, as we see here, they "rested the Sabbath day according to the commandment"]
" . . . when they (the apostles) departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day." (Acts13:14)
"And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath." (Acts13:42) [Notice: the Gentiles (non-jews) wanted to hear the word of God on the next Sabbath. Paul DID NOT tell them, "Come back tomorrow, the first day of the week, because that's the day us Christians keep." He had them return the following SABBATH]
"And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God." (Acts13:44)
"For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day." (Acts15:21)
"And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made." (Acts16:13)
"And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures." (Acts17:2)
"And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks." (Acts18:4)
"For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works." (Heb 4:4) [See Eph 5:1 where it states that we are to be imitators of God.]
"There remaineth therefore a rest [See margin: Greek word is "Sabbatismos" which means "Sabbath-keeping"] to the people of God." (Heb 4:9)
"For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD." (Isaiah 66:22,23) [I realize this is an OT scripture, BUT as you can clearly see here, this is dealing with the NEW heavens and earth (after Christ's return) and it states that ALL shall keep the Sabbath then. It seems quite preposterous, that God would give the seventh day Sabbath to mankind at creation (Gen 2:1-3), re-introduce it to Israel BEFORE Sinai - after they lost sight of it in captivity (Ex 16:4,23,27-29), codify it at Sinai (Ex:20) having all His people observe it, including Christ, then change it to Sunday, just to change it back to Friday sunset - Saturday sunset. THE SABBATH HAS NEVER CHANGED AND IS STILL TO BE OBSERVED!]
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: (*Colossians *2:*14-16 KJV). Here Paul is speaking to people in south west turkey who were coming into the truth. They were surrounded by heathens that did not keep any of the Laws so he told them these things. Also The handwriting of ordinances are the handwritings of Moses not God. God wrote the Commandments with his finger.
They are the embodiment of the law. Therefore, as the fruits of the Spirit are evermore present in your life, you will live evermore as God wants you to. Some however, still insist on looking to the literal letter in order to obey, not Christ, trusting him through the sanctification of the Holy Spirit to produce the embodiment, or heart of the law in their life through the fruits of the Spirit. The fruits of the spirit do not contradict the heart of God's laws, but encompass them
Right he showed us how to produce these things by his law that is perfect. If you love him you will keep his commandments...also I might add But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. (*Isaiah *64:*6 KJV) you can't put forth fruit when you're not keeping his Commandments Impossible.
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. (*John *14:*21 KJV) To top it off sin is transgression of the Law.
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. (*John *14:*21 KJV) To top it off sin is transgression of the Law.
Yisraelite,
Mt 5:17-19
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
KJV would seem to support your position; however consider this:
Ro 3:10-22
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
KJV
So we see that NO ONE, even Enoch and Elijah, who were taken live into heaven, thoroughly kept the Law, or were accepted by God based solely on obedience.
Furthermore, in:
Ac 13:17-24
17 The God of this people of Israel chose our fathers, and exalted the people when they dwelt as strangers in the land of Egypt, and with an high arm brought he them out of it.
18 And about the time of forty years suffered he their manners in the wilderness.
19 And when he had destroyed seven nations in the land of Chanaan, he divided their land to them by lot.
20 And after that he gave unto them judges about the space of four hundred and fifty years, until Samuel the prophet.
21 And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years.
22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.
23 Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:
24 When John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.
KJV
we see that even David who was called by God 'a man after mine own heart' despite his sins of adultery with Bathsheba, and murder with Uriah. Clearly his righteousness was not based on his own efforts.
Mt 5:17-19
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
KJV would seem to support your position; however consider this:
Ro 3:10-22
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
KJV
So we see that NO ONE, even Enoch and Elijah, who were taken live into heaven, thoroughly kept the Law, or were accepted by God based solely on obedience.
Furthermore, in:
Ac 13:17-24
17 The God of this people of Israel chose our fathers, and exalted the people when they dwelt as strangers in the land of Egypt, and with an high arm brought he them out of it.
18 And about the time of forty years suffered he their manners in the wilderness.
19 And when he had destroyed seven nations in the land of Chanaan, he divided their land to them by lot.
20 And after that he gave unto them judges about the space of four hundred and fifty years, until Samuel the prophet.
21 And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years.
22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.
23 Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:
24 When John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.
KJV
we see that even David who was called by God 'a man after mine own heart' despite his sins of adultery with Bathsheba, and murder with Uriah. Clearly his righteousness was not based on his own efforts.
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We are carnal man and his law is perfect that's why he said He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. (*John *14:*21) might I add For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: (*Hebrews *8:*10 KJV)
Okay I've proved everything so it's up to you now to find out if it's true or not. Everything is here so search the scriptures and don't use Paul for your defense Peter warns us of Pauls writing here.
And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. (*2 Peter *3:*15-16 KJV)
It would be stupid of us to change our thought of the laws because of Paul being we were warned by Peter. Plus we need 2 or more witnesses
Okay I've proved everything so it's up to you now to find out if it's true or not. Everything is here so search the scriptures and don't use Paul for your defense Peter warns us of Pauls writing here.
And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. (*2 Peter *3:*15-16 KJV)
It would be stupid of us to change our thought of the laws because of Paul being we were warned by Peter. Plus we need 2 or more witnesses
Seriously look into that and read it again my friend. This is 800 miles away fro Jerusalem in south west Turkey... Again south west Turkey this is not a place where there are law abiding followers of Christ. Lol it's not funny it's just appalling how I told you to do your own do-diligence I'm not researching for you. I just want people to use self autonomy and do your own independent research. I understand this will cause change and most are quickly offended when truth finds them out. I've been there. Ive had this train wreck already. Look there is nothing wrong with feeling you have the truth and just going back to make sure it's the truth. Satan is slick he's been here for a very long time so don't think for one second that you couldn't have been fooled. The bible says he came to decieive the world. Are you not in it. I can't make you do the research but know truth will only be truth to them that find it. I've been where you are and have seen how you believe that doctrine because I did. Be like Paul in the wilderness and relearn everything
You can't truly love unless you love God and that's by keeping his commandments.. He is love remember? Don't be self righteous you don't know love if you don't know his commandments and keep them. Love is an action. The first 4 commandments is how you love God and the other 6 how you love your neighbor/brother
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