What of the dinosaurs?

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Marian29

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Since I 'discovered' in the scriptures, in Job's book, our Holy Lord created a monster called Leviatã, which is very similar to the dragon characteristics, which He says no one can fight against it but Him, I didn't think much about dinosaurs who are not mentioned in the scriptures, I prefer just to visit museums with dinosaurs replics, and that's all. To read about that other monster on Job's book is much more interesting.

Job chapter 41
 
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The Leviathan is an interesting one. Some passages in Job read like an eye-witness account of some great, ancient creature of the sea. Other passages seem to be referencing ancient mythologies from the Near Middle East area and the demonstrative supremacy of God over the chaos monster, Leviathan.
 
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"Since I 'discovered' in the scriptures, in Job's book, our Holy Lord created a monster called Leviatã, which is very similar to the dragon characteristics"


You can discover that Behemoth and Leviathan were not dinosaurs

The manatee [dugong] and the crocodile are described .... both were prevalent in the waters of the rivers of the Middle East like the Jordan and the Nile

Note the manatee's large tail and the croc's fiery disposition especially when it attacks its victims
 
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Straightshot said:
"Since I 'discovered' in the scriptures, in Job's book, our Holy Lord created a monster called Leviatã, which is very similar to the dragon characteristics"


You can discover that Behemoth and Leviathan were not dinosaurs

The manatee [dugong] and the crocodile are described .... both were prevalent in the waters of the rivers of the Middle East like the Jordan and the Nile

Note the manatee's large tail and the croc's fiery disposition especially when it attacks its victims
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what crocodile spits fire ?
 
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Straightshot said:
"Since I 'discovered' in the scriptures, in Job's book, our Holy Lord created a monster called Leviatã, which is very similar to the dragon characteristics"


You can discover that Behemoth and Leviathan were not dinosaurs

The manatee [dugong] and the crocodile are described .... both were prevalent in the waters of the rivers of the Middle East like the Jordan and the Nile

Note the manatee's large tail and the croc's fiery disposition especially when it attacks its victims
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The dugong and crocodile? Don't make me laugh! They're nothing like the descriptions found in Job. Especially the dugong as the Behemoth! Haha! That's rich!
 
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I am curious to know which animals the behemoth and the leviathan are? Never studied that in depth.
 
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Straightshot said:
"Since I 'discovered' in the scriptures, in Job's book, our Holy Lord created a monster called Leviatã, which is very similar to the dragon characteristics"


You can discover that Behemoth and Leviathan were not dinosaurs

The manatee [dugong] and the crocodile are described .... both were prevalent in the waters of the rivers of the Middle East like the Jordan and the Nile

Note the manatee's large tail and the croc's fiery disposition especially when it attacks its victims
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Oh, my! This post made my day! God is totally going to say to Job, "Look at all of these common-place animals around you. Don't you see how awesome and majestic they are? I'm even more powerful and I created them". Um, no. The Behemoth was likely a sauropod dinosaur and Leviathan something like a Kronosaurus.
 
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Laugh if you want .... but the dinos were extinct before Genesis 1:2 and the Lord did not replace them

The descriptions in Job match exactly the animals that are the manatee and the crocodile
 
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"The dugong and crocodile? Don't make me laugh!"


Laugh if you want .... but the dinos were extinct before Genesis 1:2 and the Lord did not replace them

The descriptions in Job match exactly the animals that are the manatee and the crocodile

Check them out on the Internet and compare
 
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Straightshot said:
"Since I 'discovered' in the scriptures, in Job's book, our Holy Lord created a monster called Leviatã, which is very similar to the dragon characteristics"


You can discover that Behemoth and Leviathan were not dinosaurs

The manatee [dugong] and the crocodile are described .... both were prevalent in the waters of the rivers of the Middle East like the Jordan and the Nile

Note the manatee's large tail and the croc's fiery disposition especially when it attacks its victims
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The manatees that I have seen at Sea World seem friendly enough and there are gator wrestling exhibitions at Gator Land. Neither seem particularly ferocious to me.
 
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Straightshot said:
Laugh if you want .... but the dinos were extinct before Genesis 1:2 and the Lord did not replace them

The descriptions in Job match exactly the animals that are the manatee and the crocodile
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No, the Gap Theory is non-biblical nonsense. There's no real evidence to support it. It's just another instance of compromising God's Word to get in with the evolutionist crowds and their time-frames (although, not necessarily their evolutionary storytelling).
 
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The manatees that I have seen at Sea World seem friendly enough and there are gator wrestling exhibitions at Gator Land. Neither seem particularly ferocious to me.
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Tourist, those aren't wild animals. They've been trained for years to work with humans.
Still, the dugong and crocodile aren't described in Job.
 
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t"No, the Gap Theory is non-biblical nonsense"


What is your proof?

"Gator Land. Neither seem particularly ferocious to me"


Behemoth is not presented as a ferocious animal [more like the Lord maybe]

Leviathan is ..... [maybe more like Satan]

..... ever been attacked by a crock?

Fire up crock attacks on U-tube .... can you see the furry, sparks, and smoke?
 
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I will tell you right now that the animals described in Job are there for a purpose and a deeper meaning

The contrast is one between the Lord and Satan

Se if you can get the message
 
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I know how crocodiles act. I live in Australia. I see the fury, but not the sparks and smoke. Back to the drawing board.
 
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Straightshot said:
I will tell you right now that the animals described in Job are there for a purpose and a deeper meaning

The contrast is one between the Lord and Satan

Se if you can get the message
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Yes, I mentioned that the passages are partly symbolic of God's power over the pagan chaos monster, Leviathan. It's showing that even the Ugaritic Leviathan (symbolizing Satan) is but a simple creature in comparison to God.
 
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"I know how crocodiles act. I live in Australia. I see the fury, but not the sparks and smoke. Back to the drawing board."


Yes ..... you go back

It is the Lord who uses the fire and smoke adjectives to convey something

See if you can figure this out
 
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"What is this 6,000-year-old document you keep yammering about?"


Now you are more intelligent than that JH

You know very well that the Bible "contains" the geneologcal record that Kerry is talking about

.... and you should believe that the universe and earth are of extreme age .... and not Ham's pseudo creation

You should also consider the biblical account ..... extreme aging, recent appearance of the human

Ham wants you to believe that the Lord just made things to "look old" when they are not really

.... the Lord needs not to resort to deception and would never
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There is no 6,000-year-old document.

Hey, I believe the earth is 4.54 billion years old, give or take.

I just read Ken Ham books for laughs.

What do you mean by "recent appearance of the human" I wonder. What is recent?
 
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Unfortunately the age of the earth etc. can be a huge stumbling block for many on the way to accepting the Bible as truth and God as the one true God.

Blain, brother.
Here are the names of some excellent Christian organisations concerning such a topic: They have websites.

Creation Ministries International
Answers In Genesis
Institute for Creation Research
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Didn't all those websites win some awards for writing fiction?
 
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Marian29

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Another Bible verse about Leviathan:
Psalms 74:14 Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces, {and} gavest him {to be} meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness.
 
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