I learned in Sunday School that the lion was the king of beasts. As Proverb says, "The lion, which is mightiest among beasts and does not turn back before any..." (Proverbs 28:1). I thought to myself, I guess they never saw a T-Rex. I couldn't understand it. Adam had named all the beasts. Surely T-Rex was the true king, not the lion. How did the Bible get it wrong? In time I understood. None of them had seen a dinosaur.
What of the dinosaurs?
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Dinosaurs in Greco-Roman art?
Now this is what I view as a credible source, an article in a peer-reviewed scientific journal.
For those who don't like it when someone drops a link with no explanation, the subtitle summarizes the article quite nicely: "Dinosaurs and pterosaurs in Greek and Roman art and literature. An investigation of young-earth creationist claims."
Basically, the article refutes just about everything you posted.
Dinosaurs in Greco-Roman art?
Now this is what I view as a credible source, an article in a peer-reviewed scientific journal.
For those who don't like it when someone drops a link with no explanation, the subtitle summarizes the article quite nicely: "Dinosaurs and pterosaurs in Greek and Roman art and literature. An investigation of young-earth creationist claims."
Basically, the article refutes just about everything you posted.
K
The bible says God put a delusion in the earth that those who believe it will be condemned because they refuse to love the truth. And to let God be true and every man a liar. I believe God put just the dinosaur bones in the earth so that we can choose who we believe- God who said He made the world in an actual week, or man who said dinosaurs lived millions of years before humans. Why? Because without faith it is impossible to please God. We must believe God and love His truth.
By the way, there is no such thing as a million years ago for the earth. If you add up Adam's age and his sons and their sons until you get to Christ, and add about 2,000 years ago since Christ, you will see that the earth is no more than 15,000 years old, no matter what mankind says. A lot can happen in just 100 years. A hundred years ago my great, great gramma walked into a store and actually bought bread already baked and sliced. And among the horses on the road there came an occasional car. Now we have cell -phones, ipads, TV, etc.
John Clayton was a modern day Saul/Paul. He was a scientist set out to prove once and for all that there is no God. But his studies only revealed that there was. You should read his finding in his book: Does God Exist?
By the way, there is no such thing as a million years ago for the earth. If you add up Adam's age and his sons and their sons until you get to Christ, and add about 2,000 years ago since Christ, you will see that the earth is no more than 15,000 years old, no matter what mankind says. A lot can happen in just 100 years. A hundred years ago my great, great gramma walked into a store and actually bought bread already baked and sliced. And among the horses on the road there came an occasional car. Now we have cell -phones, ipads, TV, etc.
John Clayton was a modern day Saul/Paul. He was a scientist set out to prove once and for all that there is no God. But his studies only revealed that there was. You should read his finding in his book: Does God Exist?
The serpent was the T-Rex but over-time, it evolved into a crocodile and which the word that was use in the original text in replaced as serpent is crocodile. The bible doesn't mentions anything about gorillas, but they all are consider as beast or beastly creatures of size. And so these reptiles had once stood upright.
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Not at all because your article is just revisionist commentary. Lol who are the peers? All the historians from those time eras or some dude thousands of years later whose conclusion of this article was that a majority of what is called history is a lie and they mistook various creatures like dragons for snakes despite their writings clearly not representing any sort of snake or creature that is well known today?
And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”
This verse is saying that the curse of the serpent is that he will be brought down low and that he wouldn't be able to stomp on the heads of his victims any more.
I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you.
This verse is a spiritual meaning of what the natural was like. Anybody can stomp on the heads of serpents, unless they are 20 feet in height. It was a big deal back in those days to be able to stomp on the heads of serpent, and which I believe that this saying was past on down through generations from the time of Adam.
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”
This verse is saying that the curse of the serpent is that he will be brought down low and that he wouldn't be able to stomp on the heads of his victims any more.
I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you.
This verse is a spiritual meaning of what the natural was like. Anybody can stomp on the heads of serpents, unless they are 20 feet in height. It was a big deal back in those days to be able to stomp on the heads of serpent, and which I believe that this saying was past on down through generations from the time of Adam.
There are numerous sculptures in the Middle East of lions. They are found in Israel as well. Why? There were lions living in that area in antiquity. People had encounters with them and so they are frequently named in the Old Testament. The T-Rex, we now suspect, moved about in packs. You'd think people would have written about them if they'd seen them. There are no writings in antiquity, let alone the Bible, of dinosaurs. The best explanation is that no one saw them them. The fossil record explains why. They died out millions of years before humans arrived on the scene.
D
Alot of scientist don't even agree on these topics so who decides which ones are right? How do you know? How is it going to change your life?
There's no end to this rhetoric
Ravi Zacharias Q & A: How Do We Know the Bible is True? - YouTube
There's no end to this rhetoric
Ravi Zacharias Q & A: How Do We Know the Bible is True? - YouTube
Yeah, you would think people would get a little more excited about a 40-foot long 13-foot tall T. rex with that 5-foot skull and incredible teeth that could at the very least totally crush human bones, if not swallow a human whole.
If T. rex and humans coexisted some 4000 or so years ago as YECs would have us believe, I'm wondering where all the crushed human skeletons are.
I'm also wondering how Noah got the T. rex babies to take on the ark away from the mama. Without being eaten. And what happened, exactly, to the T. rex babies after they got off the ark and grew up.
If T. rex and humans coexisted some 4000 or so years ago as YECs would have us believe, I'm wondering where all the crushed human skeletons are.
I'm also wondering how Noah got the T. rex babies to take on the ark away from the mama. Without being eaten. And what happened, exactly, to the T. rex babies after they got off the ark and grew up.
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I doesn't know if you know that most of the fossils that they have found of human being were a bunch of bone fragments, not one whole piece. I does know that T-Rex are reptiles and reptiles comes from eggs that can fit in your refrigerator; and I also know that some reptiles growth can be stunt at birth.
Didn't say anything as all I did was post a pic of a footprint OVER a human footprint in GRANITE or STONE....I suppose some idiot for the sake of a few bananas or coconuts scammed the people by pouring this in a stream bed....ummm maybe a few hundred years ago or something....Let me guess JACK...you are the sum of all knowledge and you hung the moon and your opinion really matters in the grand scheme of things.....NOT!
C
You know it's funny, I think most of our ideas about dinosaurs come from hollywood rather than from the paleontological evidence.
I was actually watching a secular documentary on T-Rex, where they were trying to determine scientifically how fast T-Rex could run. Taking everything into account, they downgraded his running speed to 11mph, and also speculated that he likely never ran as it would have been incredibly dangerous for him. We know Elephants rarely run, and if they ever stumble while running the fall would be fatal. Thus they concluded T-Rex likely walked the vast majority of the time.
They also reexamined the brain cavity of T-Rex and found their brains were much smaller then previously believed.
IOW's, in contrast to Hollywood depictions, T-Rex was very slow and very dumb. This is secular scientists saying this, not creationist.
Now the Bible says that there were mighty hunters before the Lord early after the flood (Nimrod for example), and these early hunters became respected leaders. (Nimrod was the first tyrant recorded in scripture.) We also see this in ancient folklore, where dragon slayers became famous and respected.
My theory is, dinosaurs were inferior beasts who were very vulnerable after the flood. Smarter predators like bears and large cats and dogs were much more evasive. But dinosaurs were too slow and too dumb to avoid opportunistic hunters who were looking for notoriety. Dragging a giant reptile though town was a way to get respect and probably lots of women. They were easy to kill, but also easy to lie about being how scary they looked.
When you look a dragon folklore today, they are always depicted and invincible—fast, smart etc. Even in Jurassic Park they were depicted that way. The truth is, scientifically speaking, they would have been slow and dumb and sitting ducks for human hunters.
I was actually watching a secular documentary on T-Rex, where they were trying to determine scientifically how fast T-Rex could run. Taking everything into account, they downgraded his running speed to 11mph, and also speculated that he likely never ran as it would have been incredibly dangerous for him. We know Elephants rarely run, and if they ever stumble while running the fall would be fatal. Thus they concluded T-Rex likely walked the vast majority of the time.
They also reexamined the brain cavity of T-Rex and found their brains were much smaller then previously believed.
IOW's, in contrast to Hollywood depictions, T-Rex was very slow and very dumb. This is secular scientists saying this, not creationist.
Now the Bible says that there were mighty hunters before the Lord early after the flood (Nimrod for example), and these early hunters became respected leaders. (Nimrod was the first tyrant recorded in scripture.) We also see this in ancient folklore, where dragon slayers became famous and respected.
My theory is, dinosaurs were inferior beasts who were very vulnerable after the flood. Smarter predators like bears and large cats and dogs were much more evasive. But dinosaurs were too slow and too dumb to avoid opportunistic hunters who were looking for notoriety. Dragging a giant reptile though town was a way to get respect and probably lots of women. They were easy to kill, but also easy to lie about being how scary they looked.
When you look a dragon folklore today, they are always depicted and invincible—fast, smart etc. Even in Jurassic Park they were depicted that way. The truth is, scientifically speaking, they would have been slow and dumb and sitting ducks for human hunters.
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Well, I just dunno about that.
I am not incarcerated in a federal prison for numerous felonies, like Kent Hovind is.
In fact, I have never been arrested for anything.
It would appear you are a bit confused about what a proper Christian role model is, among other things like the age of the earth.
But I will admit, I never took any of my children on a ride on a real dinosaur in my Dinosaur Adventure Land in my backyard like Kent says he did.
My bad.
I am not incarcerated in a federal prison for numerous felonies, like Kent Hovind is.
In fact, I have never been arrested for anything.
It would appear you are a bit confused about what a proper Christian role model is, among other things like the age of the earth.
But I will admit, I never took any of my children on a ride on a real dinosaur in my Dinosaur Adventure Land in my backyard like Kent says he did.
My bad.