Not sure all of these are really clear-cut proof of the person believing in faith plus works. Some of them seem to point that way, but I do strongly believe we have to let a person themselves say what they believe.
Posting words on CC can be done by anyone anytime anywhere anyhow and we all know that on a site like this there are going to be heretics aboard who are trying to trounce and water down truth. Not accusing anyone, just stating what we all know is true.
the thing is regarding the commandments, paul endorses them also
ROMANS 13 "
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.9For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law."
Paul is not saying Love does no work, He is saying when you do not kill, steal from, lie to, covet of, witness against ect...your neighbor , you have fulfilled the law. its not a change is whether we keep that commandments, paul is saying " Love each other and you will Keep the commandments."
its not a bad thing for us to learn the ways of God, we are supposed to, we Just have to understand that Moses doesnt command that we stone each other for sins anymore, Jesus instead says " forgive the sinner as many times as they repent and ask"
Moses taught " expell the sinner, purge the sin from among you put them to death"
Jesus taught " you too have sinned, therefore give them Mercy Like im Giving you"
so say a christain believer cheated on thier wife after they believed.....do we Judge them By the Law of moses? which says they must surely be put to death? or do we treat them according to the gospel, and speak to them in private, advise them to repent and confess, explain to them " were all imperfect brother, but you Know what God says about adultery, you need to stop now and tell your wife what happened and pray ...."
Gods grace doesnt end because we Believe, Nor does His righteousness and truth end because of Grace. we have received Grace to say " Neither has God condemned us according to our sins, now we can repent and have eternal Life as His children" were not judged By the Law in Christ, He is Our Judge. so we Have to see that Jesus was teaching the Gospel Not the Mosaic Law. Just because Jesus teaches repentance and Obedience doesnt make it Law, Paul also teaches repentance and doing works meet for repentance He say He does.
its not " the Law" just because there is A Word God has spoken to us to obey. When abraham was in the picture, there was no mosaic Law, But Moses indeed obeyed what God told Him to do every time because He believed Him. He wasnt following Moses Law, Moses hadnt come till 430 Years Later. He was following Gods directions Like Noah Did By Faith.
God warned Noah of the coming flood, and told Him to make the ark, Noah believed God and was the heir ofthe righteousness of faith. hebrews 11:7
abraham God told to go to a foreign country He didnt Know and He got up and went Because God said to. He believed what God said to Him that if He went He would make Him a Nation....faith believes what God said, what Jesus said is what God said. before the Law Gods word was what Men believed and followed, and after the Law Gods word is what Men Believe and Follow.
all we have to do is beleive His word rather than the other words explaining why it doesnt apply and God will teach us because we Believe. we all Have to find our way, but assuredly the way is not to seperate out the scriptures that would teach us things we dont Know, instead we see them as " thats wrong because i dont agree" even though its clearly scripture and in context. men are still afraid of God word Like at Horeb " let not Gods word be spoken Lest we surely think its true and die"
we Know Jesus is for us He proved it, so His words are worthy to be accepted. and He definately teaches Gods real Grace Like paul, but doesnt omit the responsability of the church to accept Believe and act in those beliefs
Faith and works, are always One. if faith doesnt have works, its no profit. "Like saying i believe there is a God, but i dont believe I need to obey Him Like He says" we should re learn things for ourselves prayerfully letting God teach us rather than looking to new age pastor/authors making the millions. explaining what Gods word really Means....
