When did Christ save you?

Roberth · Dec 3, 2015

You and I (in fact all humanity) shares in Adam's life after the fall. That life died "in Christ" (see Rom 6:6/7:4) over 2000 years ago and hence "all men" have been legally saved from under the curse of the law. Christ died once, for all!

Otherwise Christ would have to die every time a believer accepts Him and that is nonsense.....

Christ's work wasn't provisional. It is a historical fact.

crossnote · Dec 3, 2015

Grace777x70 said:

I got it because we were chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world....Christ was slain before the foundation of the world...We are in Him..He is in us..

...but if you can show me how Christ was slain before the foundation of the world..you might find the answers of how us believers were there too....at any rate..I'm still waiting for them devils to show themselves as get rid of those things just as our Lord said...as you said we should focus on what we do know!..great wisdom!

Revelation 13:8 (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Ephesians 1:4 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love

Please don't ask me if I believe Christ is a real Lamb...lol

That is speaking of Gods plan of redemption.
Christ had not saved us until He died as a man.

Roberth · Dec 3, 2015

crossnote said:

1] All men come into this world saved from the curse of the law (justification)

2] When you reach the age of accountability you accepted this truth (justification by faith)

3] You are being saved from the slavery of sin (sanctification by faith)

4] And, if you keep the faith, you will receive your new creation "in Christ Jesus" in the heavenly places (glorification)

But you have all these already "in Christ Jesus":

1 Cor 1:30 It is because of him (God the Father) that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our justification, sanctification and redemption (i.e., glorification).31 Therefore, as it is written: “Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord.

So "in Christ" you already stand

1] justified

2] Sanctified

3] redeemed (glorified)

Grace777x70 · Dec 3, 2015

Thank God He was thinking of us when He Had Christ slain before the foundation of the world!!

God is always thinking about us!!! He's a good, good Father!

crossnote said:

Magenta · Dec 3, 2015

He was chosen before the creation of the world,
but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

Grace777x70 · Dec 3, 2015

Ahhh...so it would have been better if the bible said..The Lamb was chosen to be slain before the foundation of the world

and that God had chosen to be finished His work before the foundation of the world.

At any rate..it appears He was still thinking about us!!! Love Him!

Magenta said:

Magenta · Dec 3, 2015

Grace777x70 said:

Your responses trike me as being off in some way. Are you being sarcastic?

Grace777x70 · Dec 3, 2015

I'm just teasin' ya...it's most likely for our purposes here on this earth now totally irrelevant if He was slain or had been chosen or whatever ...as it is not in our capability as mere men to comprehend how Jesus could be slain before the foundation of the world..The really good news is that Jesus came and took our place and raised us up to seat with Him at the right hand of the Father... the important thing is to set our minds on things above where Christ is seated. Thank Him for shedding His blood for the forgiveness of our sins..thank Him we are the righteousness of God in Him...the things that bring life to us now!

We can ask Him how He did all the slain/chosen stuff when we get there...

Magenta said:

Adamb12 · Dec 3, 2015

I found out why 99% of christians dont know how the bible was put together. When I say put together, I mean how the 66 books were chosen out of 180+ books, letters,etc., and how they were orderred from Genisis to Revelations as well. The answer is so demoralizing. Why would God choose the Pope to be in charge of this project, and why didnt they show their work on why they felt God told them to pic this book and put it here? Can anyone help?

crossnote · Dec 3, 2015

Roberth said:

1] All men come into this world saved from the curse of the law (justification)

2] When you reach the age of accountability you accepted this truth (justification by faith)

3] You are being saved from the slavery of sin (sanctification by faith)

4] And, if you keep the faith, you will receive your new creation "in Christ Jesus" in the heavenly places (glorification)

But you have all these already "in Christ Jesus":

1 Cor 1:30 It is because of him (God the Father) that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our justification, sanctification and redemption (i.e., glorification).31 Therefore, as it is written: “Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord.

So "in Christ" you already stand

1] justified

2] Sanctified

3] redeemed (glorified)

On point #1, If all men are saved from the curse of the law, then why do some die? Also being saved from the curse of the law is not called justification.

crossnote · Dec 3, 2015

Grace777x70 said:

Christ was not slain twice. Please don't implicate my agreement with your interpretation.

crossnote · Dec 3, 2015

Adamb12 said:

I found out why 99% of christians dont know how the bible was put together. When I say put together, I mean how the 66 books were chosen out of 180+ books, letters,etc., and how they were orderred from Genisis to Revelations as well. The answer is so demoralizing. Why would God choose the Pope to be in charge of this project, and why didnt they show their work on why they felt God told them to pic this book and put it here? Can anyone help?

You might get help if you start a thread on that topic.

crossnote · Dec 3, 2015

Grace777x70 said:

Try this...

Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

valiant · Dec 4, 2015

sydlit said:

The purpose is that we might be presented before Him without spot, or stain or any such thing, holy and without blemish..
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From the moment we respond to Jesus Christ and call on Him to be our Saviour we are saved unto the day of redemption. All our sin is forgiven, we are counted as righteous before Him, and we are guaranteed His saving power to the end. The guilt of sin is removed. Then begins the process of salvation from the power of sin. He begins to work within us to will and do of His good pleasure. We are being transformed from glory unto glory by the Spirit of the Lord. During this time we are to confess Him before men and testify to what He has done for us.a

Sadly when we are Christians our old friends may fall away. But as we join in worship with God's people we find new friends. Are you in fellowship in a church?

WE should certainly seek to find out as much as we can about our salvation.

Sorry to be cynical, but i've been thru a very down time lately, and have been off here for a while, and have come to realize that no one seems to notice or give a whit or has offered a prayer my way and I'm very disillusioned by it all.

I am truly sorry to learn that. But that is always a danger here. People 'disappear' for legitimate reasons - holidays, job changes, etc. Unless you tell us we do not know of your problems

Roberth · Dec 4, 2015

crossnote said:

All men are born justified. See Romans 5:18. There are other texts. but this one is the best.

Go to Romans 7:4 "you also died to the law through the body of Christ"

Who is the "you"? Paul was addressing the Roman believers, both Jews and Gentiles. Paul wrote this after the cross. So as individuals they had not died.

Then who died? Our corporate life from Adam (the one we all share with Adam) died in Christ? Why? Because the justice of the law demanded the sinners death. So as far as the law is concerned you and I are dead. Hence the law is satisfied and that means we are not under the curse. Christ has reversed our condemnation in Adam. We are born justified.

Now, what we do with that truth (the gospel) when we reach the age of accountability is another issue. If we reject Christ (harden our hearts against God's Spirit) we will come back under the curse and die the curse Christ, as the son of man, has already taken.

Grace777x70 · Dec 4, 2015

yes..He doesn't have to have to continually sacrificed since Adam to deal with their sins because His blood was not like the blood of bulls and calves. The author here is trying to get across that Jesus sacrifice is once for all time!..He doesn't need to be continually sacrificed....great verse!

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Grace777x70 · Dec 4, 2015

Revelation 13:8 (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

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mailmandan · Dec 4, 2015

Christ saved me when I placed my faith in Him for salvation (Ephesians 2:8,9).

Roberth · Dec 4, 2015

mailmandan said:

No, you were already saved. That's when you accepted what Christ had already done.

Blain · Dec 4, 2015

Roberth said:

So.. you ask when he saved us then turn it and say from what did he save us? well either way he saved me in 2012 and from what he saved me wasn't the law but from myself. I bear sin and before I was saved the law meant nothing to me and had no power over me because i didn't even know it I just went after my own desires and lived for myself.

Had he not saved me I would have lead myself to eternal flames

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