Who are the two witnesses/prophets in Revelation?

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Lucy-Pevensie

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The corrupted bodies of Moses and Elijah have longed return to the dust from where they were formed. What we will be when we receive our new bodies no one knows. No one has their new bodies which will not be flesh and blood. The rudiments of this corrupted world.
Yes we do know. We will be recognisable human beings.
In Luke Chapter 24 Jesus emphasised that his body was flesh and bone. He ate a piece of fish with the disciples.
 

miknik5

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No one has received any glorified body. All saints die not receiving the promise. It is called walking by faith our hope is in front of us.for who hopes for that which they already have.

We walk by faith and not after that seen flesh and blood. It’s an evil generation that do require a sign before they will believe God not seen.

The two witnesses are the law and the prophets.(sola scriptura). Moses and Elijah represent the perfect law of God. It’s never about the flesh of any man. That would be more the goal of the father of lies to have a person search the flesh .
Having a hope built on the corrupted flesh knowing no one has received their new bodies’ makes it all about walking by sight.
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he Holy Spirit informs “I will send you Elijah before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.” Yet the use of his name simply spoke of the power or authority of prophecy.The same with Moses he represents the law of God.

One day the disciples came to Jesus asking if you are Son of God , then where is Elijah? They knew the prophecy said that Elijah must come before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord. Jesus answered in Matthew 17:12-13:

”But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Matthew 17:12-13:”


Then the disciples understood that He spake unto them of John the Baptist.” So according to Jesus, the Elijah prophecy was fulfilled by the coming of John the Baptist.

The two witnesses the Law and prophets (sola scriptura) are silenced or killed in that way .But the law and the prophets will be resurrected and remain till heaven and earth pass away

Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Again forbidding the gospel to go out by silencing men is to kill the law and the prophets.

Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost. 1Th 2:15
I’m sorry

all saints die receiving a white garment
 

miknik5

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And the promise tied to that white garment was already given in Matthew 22
 

miknik5

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And I don’t even understand how you interpreted that somehow I am putting more strength and power in flesh
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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If the two witnesses are The Law & The Prophets or The Old & New Testaments, verses 10-12 need explaining.

Anyone care to have a go?

Rev 11:10-12

The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.
But after the three and a half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.
 

Locutus

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I think we have a great a cloud of twitnesses surrounding us.

:p
 

Locutus

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Oh look, speaking of twitnesses.
 

miknik5

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I think we have a great a cloud of twitnesses surrounding us.

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Oh gee. How absolutely hilarious.

we were waiting for you

could you clear everything up for us?
 
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If the two witnesses are The Law & The Prophets or The Old & New Testaments, verses 10-12 need explaining.

Anyone care to have a go?

Rev 11:10-12

The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.
But after the three and a half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.



The Spirit of life from God - The living, or life-giving Spirit that proceeds from God entered into them. Compare the notes on Job 33:4. There is evidently allusion here to Genesis 2:7, where God is spoken of as the Author of life. The meaning is, that they would seem to come to life again, or that effects would follow as if the dead were restored to life. If, when they had been compelled to cease from prophesying, they should, after the interval here denoted by three days and a half, again prophesy, or their testimony should be again borne to the truth as it had been before, this would evidently be all that would be implied in the language here employed.

Entered into them - Seemed to animate them again.

And they stood upon their feet - As if they had come to life again.

And great fear fell upon them which saw them - This would be true if those who were dead should be literally restored to life; and this would be the effect if those who had given great annoyances by their doctrines, and who had been silenced, and who seemed to be dead, should again, as if animated anew by a divine power, begin to prophesy, or to proclaim their doctrines to the world. The statement in the symbol is, that those who had put them to death had been greatly troubled by these “witnesses”; that they had sought to silence them, and in order to this had put them to death; that they then greatly rejoiced, as if they would no more be annoyed by them. The fact that they seemed to come to life again would, therefore, fill them with consternation, for they would anticipate a renewal of their troubles, and they would see in this fact evidence of the divine favor toward those whom they persecuted, and reason to apprehend divine vengeance on themselves.
 

Chester

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The corrupted bodies of Moses and Elijah have longed return to the dust from where they were formed. What we will be when we receive our new bodies no one knows. No one has their new bodies which will not be flesh and blood. The rudiments of this corrupted world.
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Seems to me Elijah was taken up to heaven - how do we know his "corrupted body" has returned "to dust?"
 

Nehemiah6

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The corrupted bodies of Moses and Elijah have longed return to the dust from where they were formed.
You won't find any support for this assertion in Scripture. And since Elijah went directly to Heaven, there is no way that his body was either corrupted or returned to dust. You must be thinking of someone else.
 
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joefizz

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JESUS declared of the Old and New Testament Scriptures, “They [plural]are they which testify [witness] of Me.” [John 5:39] and again :”This Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a Witness unto all nations.” [Matthew 24:14].



“The ‘Two Witnesses are the Old and New Testaments…..The essential purpose of the Scriptures is to give Witness to the mercy and verity of Jesus. Our Lord commands, ‘Search the Scriptures,…they are they which testify [witness] of Me.’
Can testaments die or stand on their feet?
 
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joefizz

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You won't find any support for this assertion in Scripture. And since Elijah went directly to Heaven, there is no way that his body was either corrupted or returned to dust. You must be thinking of someone else.
Yep and Elisha received "twice" the spirit before "he left".(not died)
 
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joefizz

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Yet God's Word disagrees with you....

Revelation 11
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their dead bodies(TWO WITNESSES) shall lie in the street of the great city, which SPIRITUALLY IS CALLED SODOM AND EGYPT, WHERE OUR LORD WAS CRUCIFIED.

Where does it say in scripture that any of this is literal? Are the BEASTS literal as well?
Well it says "The beast" and "make war with" and "kill them" so yes it's literal yet spiritual,it happens alot in the bible,metaphors happen too but this in revelations is no metaphor,it's a prophecy both literal and spiritual,discernment is needed to learn this though.