WHO ARE YOU IN GOD'S EYES?

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BenFTW

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To be honest, sometimes I don't know what He sees. I know some parts of His word in regard to this question, but sometimes I just wonder, "Why me? Did you really choose me? Do you know what you're doing? You chose me... are you sure?" I know according to His word I am His son, I am loved, and that He doesn't condemn me. However, when I see myself now in comparison to where He is taking me I am saddened at my current state.
 

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To be honest, sometimes I don't know what He sees. I know some parts of His word in regard to this question, but sometimes I just wonder, "Why me? Did you really choose me? Do you know what you're doing? You chose me... are you sure?" I know according to His word I am His son, I am loved, and that He doesn't condemn me. However, when I see myself now in comparison to where He is taking me I am saddened at my current state.
I struggle with all of this as well, it's so easy to see what he sees in others and but when I look at myself in the mirror and also the inner mirror all i can say in response to what I see is ugh.....
 

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I struggle with all of this as well, it's so easy to see what he sees in others and but when I look at myself in the mirror and also the inner mirror all i can say in response to what I see is ugh.....
In the past its crossed my mind, "Lord why am I so sensitive to these shortcomings but others aren't?" Its like people parade around in their faults feeling no remorse but for me, it could be the smallest thing in the world, but it aches. Then I think its a blessing I'm built that way, but I wish others too would be so conscious of their words and actions.
 
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The problem with that is that we are blind, it doesn't matter how we see him because our eyes do not truly see do they? in fact it's because of how we see God that we have so many denominations and senseless arguing in the bdf. however when we look at ourselves do we see what God sees? many people see themselves even as Christians as lowly worms filthy unworthy weak sinners they ask how God could ever love someone like them.

but this is not what he sees at all
To see God through looking at self lowers who God is to self. We are lowly, worms, filthy, unworthy, and weak. Exactly why we should be looking at God.

I'm not better than this. I am this. And God is the one who still chose me and is turning me into his vessel. This is for his glory, not mine. And looking at him, it comes down to whew! Because I'm not glorious. He his so worthy, and yet we keep bring it back to us -- lowly, worms, filthy, unworthy, and weak.

What's so wrong with looking at highly, awesome, pure, worthy, and strength? i.e. God?
 

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In the past its crossed my mind, "Lord why am I so sensitive to these shortcomings but others aren't?" Its like people parade around in their faults feeling no remorse but for me, it could be the smallest thing in the world, but it aches. Then I think its a blessing I'm built that way, but I wish others too would be so conscious of their words and actions.
my issue is I tend to beat myself up and I have a very low self esteem of myself. When I look at others I see a precious child made with the deepest of love regardless of their appearances or their weaknesses or their past or their failings I see royalty I see beauty I see everything that they apparently don't and everyone is always so shocked when I tell them what I see when I look at them. I can easily see through God's eyes when it comes to others even if it's the most blood thirsty person I can see something in them worth fighting for but when I look at myself I see the opposite and I refuse to accept this.

How can I expect others to believe what I can clearly see in them when I myself do not believe this of myself?
 

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To see God through looking at self lowers who God is to self. We are lowly, worms, filthy, unworthy, and weak. Exactly why we should be looking at God.

I'm not better than this. I am this. And God is the one who still chose me and is turning me into his vessel. This is for his glory, not mine. And looking at him, it comes down to whew! Because I'm not glorious. He his so worthy, and yet we keep bring it back to us -- lowly, worms, filthy, unworthy, and weak.

What's so wrong with looking at highly, awesome, pure, worthy, and strength? i.e. God?
And yet if you were face to face to God do you think this is what he would say of you? it is true we are all things however this is not what sees when he sees us because of the blood covering. I can't tell you how many times I have heard people say this about themselves an in my minds eye I see God shaking his head smiling as if to say you silly child let me show you what I see and think of you.


There is a vast difference between putting ourselves down and being humble
 

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my issue is I tend to beat myself up and I have a very low self esteem of myself. When I look at others I see a precious child made with the deepest of love regardless of their appearances or their weaknesses or their past or their failings I see royalty I see beauty I see everything that they apparently don't and everyone is always so shocked when I tell them what I see when I look at them. I can easily see through God's eyes when it comes to others even if it's the most blood thirsty person I can see something in them worth fighting for but when I look at myself I see the opposite and I refuse to accept this.

How can I expect others to believe what I can clearly see in them when I myself do not believe this of myself?
You sound like you have the gift of exhortation. It reminds me of how a person can have the gift of healing and heal others but for some reason, to try to apply that gift to oneself if sick, it doesn't work. You are moved by compassion for another, and they get healed, but to command healing over an ache (for self), it fails.

In the same way, you encourage others through exhortation but to exhort yourself? That gift is meant for others, I suppose. But, take heart and read His word. God loves you and sees you as His beloved, and He cherishes you. This is why we are a body of many functions, so that we may all edify another.
 
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And yet if you were face to face to God do you think this is what he would say of you? it is true we are all things however this is not what sees when he sees us because of the blood covering. I can't tell you how many times I have heard people say this about themselves an in my minds eye I see God shaking his head smiling as if to say you silly child let me show you what I see and think of you.


There is a vast difference between putting ourselves down and being humble
If humility is the goal, not that much different. It's still self is center.
 

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If humility is the goal, not that much different. It's still self is center.
Are you not the apple of His eye? Did not Christ die for you? Do you not realize if you were the only human to have existed, Jesus still would've died for you? He lives, He breathes, for you, He resurrected for your justification. He came back to life with you in mind, He went through with His death with you in mind and the joy set before Him. As much as you don't want yourself to be the center, God has so fixed His heart to be reconciled to you.

Remember, we love Him because He first loved us. As we come to understand His love for us, our love then deepens.
 
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....uh, er........well...........hmm..........not really

When God looks at us PRIOR to our salvation, He sees us for EXACTLY what we are.........sinners in need of salvation. Full of sin and ugliness and a lot of bad things. When God looks at us AFTER our salvation, He looks past us, and sees the precious blood of Christ. It is not we who are so perfect and pure, it is HE who LIVES WITHIN US that is so perfect and pure, and this is WHO God sees. So, I can't go along with this guy this time.
that s why god gives context to scripture. still looking at acts 2 are we.
romans 5 12-21

underline in acts 10 ware cornilous repented.

and to think why are you looking at sin. (acts 15)
 
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I mean... God still sees our sin it just isn't imputed to us. Jesus paid its price, but in so far as our walk is concerned He still chastises us to walk uprightly because He wants us to walk in holiness. He doesn't want us to experience falls, for example, but would have us choose rather to walk as we know we should.

Sin is awful, and the ways in which it torments the mind when committed is exhausting. We have to walk in the victory that is ours, Christ paid for it. To not do so, is crushing to the soul.
you say, god see your sin. what sin are you talking about. what do you think jesus done here.

Death in Adam, Life in Christ
12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned---13 for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law.14 Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.
15 But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.16 And the free gift is not like the result of that one man's sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification.17 For if, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.
18 Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.19 For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous.20 Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more,21 so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.Romans 5: Peace with God Through Faith


if you cannot see or understand the underlined part. no wonder your still looking at law of the land of isreal .

acts 15 what law was given to a gentile. so that you can see your own sin.

so it a misrepresentation or wrong understanding that you still see sin in your life.

my point if you can not understand the scripture , then who eye are looking at who.
 
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18 Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.

faith is believing in your saviour. that would be a personal relationship, not a religion idea, or a political idea, but with bible proof to your faith.


21 Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law.22 But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.


to them that have faith in jesus christ.

For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law.


who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.

do you get the point lol

the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee giffffffffffffffffffffffffftttttttttttttttttttttttt. righteousness
 
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Are you not the apple of His eye? Did not Christ die for you? Do you not realize if you were the only human to have existed, Jesus still would've died for you? He lives, He breathes, for you, He resurrected for your justification. He came back to life with you in mind, He went through with His death with you in mind and the joy set before Him. As much as you don't want yourself to be the center, God has so fixed His heart to be reconciled to you.

Remember, we love Him because He first loved us. As we come to understand His love for us, our love then deepens.
He first loved us. And yet we spend more time on "we love him." This is what I'm saying. We're all egocentric. And the whole purpose for this post is to enjoy that egocentricness.

HE first loved us. Our purpose is in God. God's purpose is not in us. It is in him too.

The commandments are to love God fully and to love others as ourselves. No commandment to love self, because it is already recognized that we fully and completely love self. Not an area that needs improvement. The areas that need improvement are to love God fully and others.


 

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You sound like you have the gift of exhortation. It reminds me of how a person can have the gift of healing and heal others but for some reason, to try to apply that gift to oneself if sick, it doesn't work. You are moved by compassion for another, and they get healed, but to command healing over an ache (for self), it fails.

In the same way, you encourage others through exhortation but to exhort yourself? That gift is meant for others, I suppose. But, take heart and read His word. God loves you and sees you as His beloved, and He cherishes you. This is why we are a body of many functions, so that we may all edify another.
Your not the first to say that all that lol
 

Blain

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If humility is the goal, not that much different. It's still self is center.
It's vastly different. humility is not about self at all beating yourself up and thinking of yourself in this way is all about self it has nothing to do with God at all.

It is humility that allows us to see ourselves as he does knowing it was the blood of Christ that allowed us to be able to be seen in that way and it all points to him it was never our own righteousness nor out own strength or lack of any kind of flaws that made us this way it was all him.

The ability to see ourselves as he does is vital because if we only see ourselves as lowly disgusting worms that is all we will live as but if we live as the kings and queens he says we are if we understand and accept the value we have in his eyes we will then be able to see others in this manner.

If humility is beating ourselves up and only seeing ourselves as the lowly worms the enemy wants us to believe then when how will we will we ever walk in God's light? how we will ever understand what he means when says we are righteous and redeemed clean and made spotless royalty and beautiful? humility is knowing believing and living this yet still knowing why and how we are this way and still living as if even the least of these are higher up than us.

if you were trying to counsel a new Christian would tell them they are just a lowly sinner lower than the dirt unworthy in everyway? or would you tell them they are a new creation they clean and spotless they are treasured and are royalty? if a new Christian asked how God saw them the answer to that question could either severely damage them or it can empower them but one must be able to see through his eyes and know what he thinks and sees of us to do this
 

Blain

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He first loved us. And yet we spend more time on "we love him." This is what I'm saying. We're all egocentric. And the whole purpose for this post is to enjoy that egocentricness.

HE first loved us. Our purpose is in God. God's purpose is not in us. It is in him too.

The commandments are to love God fully and to love others as ourselves. No commandment to love self, because it is already recognized that we fully and completely love self. Not an area that needs improvement. The areas that need improvement are to love God fully and others.


You think that the love between God and his children is a one way street? it's not us loving him or him loving us it's like a marriage of the heart it's now one love one bond no longer two separate loves or two separate hearts it's now one beautiful and deep love with God not for God. The love that comes from his heart alone that infuses inside us that binds us that is the very core and foundation of our love faith and relationship with him is perfect and perfects everything, you can't think of that kind of bond as us loving and or him loving us it's not self verse God it's being with him it's being in love with him it's having a covenant of the hearts that are deeply intertwined.

In marriage it's not two different loves is it? it's one love two separate beings becoming one heart mind and soul one bond one relationship, when we made that special connection with him we may not have married him in the marriage of them lamb but we married him in our hearts.
 
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It's vastly different. humility is not about self at all beating yourself up and thinking of yourself in this way is all about self it has nothing to do with God at all.

It is humility that allows us to see ourselves as he does knowing it was the blood of Christ that allowed us to be able to be seen in that way and it all points to him it was never our own righteousness nor out own strength or lack of any kind of flaws that made us this way it was all him.

The ability to see ourselves as he does is vital because if we only see ourselves as lowly disgusting worms that is all we will live as but if we live as the kings and queens he says we are if we understand and accept the value we have in his eyes we will then be able to see others in this manner.

If humility is beating ourselves up and only seeing ourselves as the lowly worms the enemy wants us to believe then when how will we will we ever walk in God's light? how we will ever understand what he means when says we are righteous and redeemed clean and made spotless royalty and beautiful? humility is knowing believing and living this yet still knowing why and how we are this way and still living as if even the least of these are higher up than us.

if you were trying to counsel a new Christian would tell them they are just a lowly sinner lower than the dirt unworthy in everyway? or would you tell them they are a new creation they clean and spotless they are treasured and are royalty? if a new Christian asked how God saw them the answer to that question could either severely damage them or it can empower them but one must be able to see through his eyes and know what he thinks and sees of us to do this
I would remind them that God chose them to have himself a people who will worship and enjoy him forever.

You keep coming at this with the center being how we see ourselves. If you keep working towards humility or you keep thinking yourself a scoundrel of the lowliest of people, what is the difference? Either one focuses on self. What we focus on is where we'll end up.

I've got self. I know self. Self sucks!

I got something better. God. Why not focus on him?

I'm beginning to think this is the doctrinal problem. The difference between Arminianism and reformed. I know many Christians -- here on this forum and off this forum. The ones who keep focusing on self seems to be forever stuck banging their heads against the wall trying to figure out self. Why? All that does is bring us back to either thinking we're great or we royally suck. Nothing changes there. The ego will always keep us wherever we think we belong.

GOD is the difference. He is the purpose of life. He is the focus. He is the one who works all things out. Focus on that, and we get somewhere... closer to his purpose for us. Not closer to who we already are whether we know who we are or are still trying to figure it out.

New Christian? Intermediate Christian? Advanced Christian? Doesn't matter. It's about remembering to focus on God, (not us)!
 

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YOU ARE PERFECT IN GOD’S EYES


[HR][/HR]God sees you with no flaw, spot or imperfection, so honor His Word and the finished work of His Son by saying, “Amen!” Don’t doubt your perfection in Christ.

To see yourself as being far from perfect is not modesty, but a failure to understand the perfect sacrifice that Jesus has made for you.

The Bible tells us, “For by one offering He hath perfected forever them that are sanctified”. Did you get that? You have not only been sanctified, that is, made holy, but by the same offering of His body, you have been perfected. You are both holy and perfect in God’s eyes!

Your sins have been purged perfectly. Today, Jesus is seated at His Father’s right hand not because He is the Son of God (although that is true), but because His work of purging your sins is completely finished and perfect!

So instead of being conscious of your sins, which is to have an evil conscience (Hebrews 10:22), you can have a perfect conscience, a conscience that is free from the guilt and condemnation of sins.

When you find yourself conscious of your sins, just say, “Thank You, Lord Jesus, for Your wonderful work at the cross. It is a perfect work that has removed all my sins completely.

“Holy Spirit, thank You for convicting me of righteousness, not my own, but God’s righteousness given to me as a gift. Keep on convicting me in the days to come, reminding me especially when I fail that I am still the righteousness of God in Christ.”

My friend, God sees you perfect without any spot of sin. He sees you covered in the beautiful white robes of His own righteousness. He treats you as a righteous man because that is what He has made you. So expect good things to happen to you because blessings are on the head of the righteous! (Proverbs 10:6)

Todays Destined To Reign Devotional for Feb.21
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You folks need to read #1 again. It's about seeing the way God sees. Not sure how anyone can disagree with that. The devotional is focusing on what God has done in Christ to and for us. It is DONE and can't be undone. It's sure and it's a fact. The problem is human issues get in the way when on the other hand.., faith issues can see the forest from the trees.

The sin of unbelief is the biggie.
 
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I have often said this and it is true, when I think about God then I am happy and excited about life, when I think about myself then I am not happy and life seems dull and boring. My initial experience with God at salvation had all this love from God being poured out on me. The love of God did not make me feel important, however it sure did make me feel valuable.
 

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Who am I?

My name is Sonia irl. I will turn 15 in two days. I live in Singapore. I am in tenth grade.

...Wait. I think I have done this joke before. Never mind.

I used to be really confused at this question. I used to think that he still sees me as the wicked sinner I am and still hates me, but now I think he thinks of me as just another drop in the ocean. He loves me, but I am not 'unique' or 'special'.