WHO ARE YOU IN GOD'S EYES?
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No I don't keep going to how we see ourselves because like I said we are blind we do not truly see, what I keep coming to is how God sees us and how he wants us to look through his eyes not ours. He wants us to look at ourselves through his eyes not ours you keep thinking it's about self but it's not it's about him
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YOU ARE PERFECT IN GOD’S EYES
God sees you with no flaw, spot or imperfection, so honor His Word and the finished work of His Son by saying, “Amen!” Don’t doubt your perfection in Christ.
To see yourself as being far from perfect is not modesty, but a failure to understand the perfect sacrifice that Jesus has made for you.
The Bible tells us, “For by one offering He hath perfected forever them that are sanctified”. Did you get that? You have not only been sanctified, that is, made holy, but by the same offering of His body, you have been perfected. You are both holy and perfect in God’s eyes!
Your sins have been purged perfectly. Today, Jesus is seated at His Father’s right hand not because He is the Son of God (although that is true), but because His work of purging your sins is completely finished and perfect!
So instead of being conscious of your sins, which is to have an evil conscience (Hebrews 10:22), you can have a perfect conscience, a conscience that is free from the guilt and condemnation of sins.
When you find yourself conscious of your sins, just say, “Thank You, Lord Jesus, for Your wonderful work at the cross. It is a perfect work that has removed all my sins completely.
“Holy Spirit, thank You for convicting me of righteousness, not my own, but God’s righteousness given to me as a gift. Keep on convicting me in the days to come, reminding me especially when I fail that I am still the righteousness of God in Christ.”
My friend, God sees you perfect without any spot of sin. He sees you covered in the beautiful white robes of His own righteousness. He treats you as a righteous man because that is what He has made you. So expect good things to happen to you because blessings are on the head of the righteous! (Proverbs 10:6)
I read it fine. It's all about the great-and-powerful awesomely "YOU." God is the servant. "YOU" are the served.
Egocentric, not God focused.
Glory to YOU in the highest.
God sees you with no flaw, spot or imperfection, so honor His Word and the finished work of His Son by saying, “Amen!” Don’t doubt your perfection in Christ.
To see yourself as being far from perfect is not modesty, but a failure to understand the perfect sacrifice that Jesus has made for you.
The Bible tells us, “For by one offering He hath perfected forever them that are sanctified”. Did you get that? You have not only been sanctified, that is, made holy, but by the same offering of His body, you have been perfected. You are both holy and perfect in God’s eyes!
Your sins have been purged perfectly. Today, Jesus is seated at His Father’s right hand not because He is the Son of God (although that is true), but because His work of purging your sins is completely finished and perfect!
So instead of being conscious of your sins, which is to have an evil conscience (Hebrews 10:22), you can have a perfect conscience, a conscience that is free from the guilt and condemnation of sins.
When you find yourself conscious of your sins, just say, “Thank You, Lord Jesus, for Your wonderful work at the cross. It is a perfect work that has removed all my sins completely.
“Holy Spirit, thank You for convicting me of righteousness, not my own, but God’s righteousness given to me as a gift. Keep on convicting me in the days to come, reminding me especially when I fail that I am still the righteousness of God in Christ.”
My friend, God sees you perfect without any spot of sin. He sees you covered in the beautiful white robes of His own righteousness. He treats you as a righteous man because that is what He has made you. So expect good things to happen to you because blessings are on the head of the righteous! (Proverbs 10:6)
I read it fine. It's all about the great-and-powerful awesomely "YOU." God is the servant. "YOU" are the served.
Egocentric, not God focused.
Glory to YOU in the highest.
Who are you in God’s eyes?.
We are His churches/His people who He planed to glorify Him.
Spirit does not fit to this perishable realm, spirit only fits to eternal realm .
So if there are spirits in this perishable realm surely there shall be the almighty one (God) who places those spirits to be here ( places His people who were written in the book of life to sojourn to this planet by placing him or her in the womb of a woman to be born/born of God John1:12-13, Rom9:8 , and thrown the devils also to this planet), it also means there will never be humans equipped by spirits who inhabit this planet by their natural manner /multiplication, means no one will have their kids with spirit inside unless God himself wants that event to be happened (specific spirit in the specific place in the specific parent /like the chosen Isrl in the OT, His churches in NT) , also there will never be animals equipped by the spirits where after their earth life they still can live in the next eternal life.
So what’s for He sent us (His people) to sojourn to this perishable earth? (the purpose of the creation).
If God didn’t send His people to this perishable earth , of course they will eternally be as they were (zero state/ without knowledge without ability /not know about good and bad), they will never be able to glorify God (purpose of creation Isa43:7), cause the possibility in growing only in this perishable realm (from zero state to full state ).
Why should start from zero state?.
Let’s us see these figurative models.
1 God created His people (written in the book of life before the creation of the world) at once, there was no forbidden tree, there was no devil , in this option : His people surely will live forever , millions years later they are asked : How can you all live peacefully in a glory without decease without pain ? surely they answer “ Surely , We were created like resemble to God” , Does their answer brings glory to God? (full state similar to: if God took His faithful angels with glorious body and placed in NHNE) .
2 God created His people at once, There was the forbidden tree where the fruit not allowed to be eaten, there was no devil ( His people already in full state/ there was nothing to do with the devil), millions years later God came to them and judged , all the rebels died in that time, now the rest only the obedient ones , then they are asked : How can you live in a glory not like them who were thrown to the lof ? (similar to: when God created His angels with the eternal bodies /they were all full state) surely they answer “ surely, we are all more obedient than them”, Doess their answer bring glory to God?.
3 God created as written in the bible (zero state), then the winners (Rev3:5) / the saveds are asked in NHNE : How can you live in a glory with God , not like the devils and the losers who are thrown to the lof , surely they answer” actually there is nothing more within us then they are ,if they are thrown to the lof , we shall be thrown too ( Isa64:6, Isa26:12, rev19:8 ), but if now we live in this eternal land peacefully that all comes from His Glory only”, Does their answer bring glory to God?.
Start from this zero state only, then His people surely can bring glory to God.
We are His churches/His people who He planed to glorify Him.
Spirit does not fit to this perishable realm, spirit only fits to eternal realm .
So if there are spirits in this perishable realm surely there shall be the almighty one (God) who places those spirits to be here ( places His people who were written in the book of life to sojourn to this planet by placing him or her in the womb of a woman to be born/born of God John1:12-13, Rom9:8 , and thrown the devils also to this planet), it also means there will never be humans equipped by spirits who inhabit this planet by their natural manner /multiplication, means no one will have their kids with spirit inside unless God himself wants that event to be happened (specific spirit in the specific place in the specific parent /like the chosen Isrl in the OT, His churches in NT) , also there will never be animals equipped by the spirits where after their earth life they still can live in the next eternal life.
So what’s for He sent us (His people) to sojourn to this perishable earth? (the purpose of the creation).
If God didn’t send His people to this perishable earth , of course they will eternally be as they were (zero state/ without knowledge without ability /not know about good and bad), they will never be able to glorify God (purpose of creation Isa43:7), cause the possibility in growing only in this perishable realm (from zero state to full state ).
Why should start from zero state?.
Let’s us see these figurative models.
1 God created His people (written in the book of life before the creation of the world) at once, there was no forbidden tree, there was no devil , in this option : His people surely will live forever , millions years later they are asked : How can you all live peacefully in a glory without decease without pain ? surely they answer “ Surely , We were created like resemble to God” , Does their answer brings glory to God? (full state similar to: if God took His faithful angels with glorious body and placed in NHNE) .
2 God created His people at once, There was the forbidden tree where the fruit not allowed to be eaten, there was no devil ( His people already in full state/ there was nothing to do with the devil), millions years later God came to them and judged , all the rebels died in that time, now the rest only the obedient ones , then they are asked : How can you live in a glory not like them who were thrown to the lof ? (similar to: when God created His angels with the eternal bodies /they were all full state) surely they answer “ surely, we are all more obedient than them”, Doess their answer bring glory to God?.
3 God created as written in the bible (zero state), then the winners (Rev3:5) / the saveds are asked in NHNE : How can you live in a glory with God , not like the devils and the losers who are thrown to the lof , surely they answer” actually there is nothing more within us then they are ,if they are thrown to the lof , we shall be thrown too ( Isa64:6, Isa26:12, rev19:8 ), but if now we live in this eternal land peacefully that all comes from His Glory only”, Does their answer bring glory to God?.
Start from this zero state only, then His people surely can bring glory to God.
It would be hard to say since His thoughts and ways are so much higher than mine. i'm not sure what God would say about me today, but someday i hope to hear Him say well done faithful servant. i do the best in this body of clay to do what the Potter is forming me to be, but it just doesn't seem that my best is good enough. So i really don't see what God sees in me, but someday soon it won't be a mystery no longer.
Lets not think to highly of ourselves.
How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm? Job 25:6
But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people. Psalm 22:6
Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the Lord, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 41:14
But God prepared a worm when the morning rose the next day, and it smote the gourd that it withered. Jonah 4:7
Does any body know what it means by worm? The thought that came to me is something with irrigating the soil.
How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm? Job 25:6
But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people. Psalm 22:6
Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the Lord, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 41:14
But God prepared a worm when the morning rose the next day, and it smote the gourd that it withered. Jonah 4:7
Does any body know what it means by worm? The thought that came to me is something with irrigating the soil.
This is good Lynn. But I do think there needs to be a revelation of just who we are, children of the One True King. That revelation comes from the Holy Spirit, but can manifest itself from a word from a brother and sister.
Once that realization, or revelation comes, and the enemy no longer has the weapon of self-doubt and loathing to beat us over the head, we become truly free to focus our total love on God, our brothers and sisters in Christ, and bringing others to Him.
Once that realization, or revelation comes, and the enemy no longer has the weapon of self-doubt and loathing to beat us over the head, we become truly free to focus our total love on God, our brothers and sisters in Christ, and bringing others to Him.
We are loved ones. Children, sheep in need of a Shepherd and we have Him, but many would not. Jesus said of Israel that He would have gathered them up in His wings like a mother hen but they would not.
From waay back when., God has been reaching out to man and man has turned his face "as it were". Yet God keeps reaching out to man. Why was David a man after God's own heart? David was a very bad selfish self centered man. Even to the degree of murdering an innocent man for selfish gain. David raised a bunch of selfish kids even. But David realized something many Christians don't. God loved him and kept after him. David kept on BELIEVING and going back to God. Kept on daring to go back to God and this pleases God because BELIEVING pleases Him.
All we have to do is read through the Bible to find out about these men and women of God. And yet God had His loving hand on each one from the very beginning. It's the 'sheep' who see themselves loved regardless that will live secure, joyful productive lives. A pastor gave a sermon on the apostle that Jesus loved. John was the apostle who called himself "the apostle Jesus Loved"
Read the Gospel of John and see. John was able to understand what so many of us don't. That personally despite what other people are going through., John could have tunnel vision when it came to Jesus love for him. Despite the goings on in the world and what happened or didn't to other people, John consistently focused on Jesus love for him. Peter on the other hand boasted about his love for Jesus and what happened to Peter? He denied Jesus. John on the other hand was entrusted with the care of Jesus mother.
There is a lesson to learn from these men. Believing that God loves us intimately and consistently is what will get us through. Just like the some of the other posters have said. When we think of ourselves we fall into depression and guilt. But when we rest in the fact that regardless of our own opinions about ourselves., God sees something different., we will be set free. But it's a practiced way to think. It doesn't come natural. We are human and much too busy doing what many have done here on this thread. Injecting ideas and human reasoning into the fact that Jesus loves me this I know., for the Bible tells me so.
Grace is not fair and it doesn't come our way by our deserving it. God's love comes because we don't deserve it. Maybe the reason so many Christians are seeing the blessings of God is because they actually do practice the love of God in Christ. Maybe they are doing the resting so God can do the working in their lives. Maybe they have ceased from their own works as Hebrews 4:10-11 instructs and grabbed hold of the spiritual truth that changes everything.[SUP]10 [/SUP]For the one who has once entered His rest has also rested from [the weariness and pain of] his [human] labors, just as God rested from [those labors uniquely] His own. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Let us therefore make every effort to enter that rest [of God, to know and experience it for ourselves], so that no one will fall by following the same example of disobedience [as those who died in the wilderness].
Phillips Translation gives the context of what happened to those in the camp who refused to enter in. Like today when we refuse to rest., we live such empty sorrow filled disappointed lives. Jesus has already done the work. We need to rest in it. But many will not. Many see the giants are TOO BIG and won't enter in. And even will stop others from entering in.
[SUP]-10 [/SUP]For if Joshua had given them the rest, we should not find God saying, at a much later date, “today”. There still exists, therefore, a full and complete rest for the people of God. And he who experiences his real rest is resting from his own work as fully as God from his.
[SUP]11-13 [/SUP]Let us then be eager to know this rest for ourselves, and let us beware that no one misses it through falling into the same kind of unbelief as those we have mentioned. For the Word that God speaks is alive and active; it cuts more keenly than any two-edged sword: it strikes through to the place where soul and spirit meet, to the innermost intimacies of a man’s being: it exposes the very thoughts and motives of a man’s heart. No creature has any cover from the sight of God; everything lies naked and exposed before the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
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it cuts more keenly than any two-edged sword: it strikes through to the place where soul and spirit meet, to the innermost intimacies of a man’s being: it exposes the very thoughts and motives of a man’s heart. No creature has any cover from the sight of God; everything lies naked and exposed before the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
And..., it's important to NOTE: even after the Word and Spirit expose the very thoughts and intents and motives of our hearts, and it all lays bare before Him (and us) the horror of it will not diminish the believer who sees God's love and grace for them bought and paid for by Jesus Himself.
And..., it's important to NOTE: even after the Word and Spirit expose the very thoughts and intents and motives of our hearts, and it all lays bare before Him (and us) the horror of it will not diminish the believer who sees God's love and grace for them bought and paid for by Jesus Himself.
You quote this same thing over & over & over & over.
You use an absolute nobody to make an important statement about theology..... foolish.
Your statements are lies to support your false doctrine.
That scripture wasn't isolated..... all the context surrounded it.
As a matter of fact, it is you who posts the one-verse-wonders that puts false meaning on scripture, yet you blame others for your sins.
Psalm 101:7 He that works deceit shall not dwell within my house:he that tells lies shall not tarry in my sight.
Proverbs 6:16There are six things which the LORD hates, Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him:
17Haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
And hands that shed innocent blood,
18A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that run rapidly to evil,
19A false witness who utters lies,
And one who spreads strife among brothers.
Rev. 21:8“But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
You use an absolute nobody to make an important statement about theology..... foolish.
Your statements are lies to support your false doctrine.
That scripture wasn't isolated..... all the context surrounded it.
As a matter of fact, it is you who posts the one-verse-wonders that puts false meaning on scripture, yet you blame others for your sins.
Psalm 101:7 He that works deceit shall not dwell within my house:he that tells lies shall not tarry in my sight.
Proverbs 6:16There are six things which the LORD hates, Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him:
17Haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
And hands that shed innocent blood,
18A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that run rapidly to evil,
19A false witness who utters lies,
And one who spreads strife among brothers.
Rev. 21:8“But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
1. I don't believe in the sinless perfection doctrine that is spewed on CC. But you didn't know that. You did not discern such a little thing.
2. Your threats mean nothing. Report me, if you think I'm worse than others that lie, cuss, malign, & slander others.
3. This isn't your thread, either. Anyone has the right to post on this thread.
You come against me for posting scripture, nothing more. That says a lot about you.
If the scripture doesn't pertain to you, then it's not for you. Posting scripture shouldn't harm the righteous.
Mark 8:33 New American Standard Bible
But turning around and seeing His disciples, He rebuked Peter and said, "Get behind Me, Satan; for you are not setting your mind on God's interests, but man's."
2. Your threats mean nothing. Report me, if you think I'm worse than others that lie, cuss, malign, & slander others.
3. This isn't your thread, either. Anyone has the right to post on this thread.
You come against me for posting scripture, nothing more. That says a lot about you.
If the scripture doesn't pertain to you, then it's not for you. Posting scripture shouldn't harm the righteous.
Mark 8:33 New American Standard Bible
But turning around and seeing His disciples, He rebuked Peter and said, "Get behind Me, Satan; for you are not setting your mind on God's interests, but man's."
You say this thread started out beautifully. Your words. Your words back the author of this work. Your words.
I don't back anything Joseph Prince says. Joseph Prince is a known heretic. But you back his words. That's not my problem.
You have a problem of not being able to spiritually discern wickedness.
A little leaven leavens the whole lump.
It's your words backing this wickedness, not mine.
I suggest you pray & read The Book.
I don't back anything Joseph Prince says. Joseph Prince is a known heretic. But you back his words. That's not my problem.
You have a problem of not being able to spiritually discern wickedness.
A little leaven leavens the whole lump.
It's your words backing this wickedness, not mine.
I suggest you pray & read The Book.
Low self-esteem is not the problem here.
Every true child has no great trust in self.
So, what's the real problem?
It's not the esteem of yourself that's the problem..... it's your esteem of Who's in you.
You don't highly esteem the Christ in you, your Hope of Glory. When you don't believe you can do great things for the kingdom, that's saying the One in you can't do it.
Such statements slap the face of God with the insult of inability to do that He would say He would do.
In a nutshell, you don't trust God to do the work, so you fail.
The good news is that God will abundantly pardon you for lack of faith, as well as strengthen you if you ask in faith believing.
God doesn't want His children living in defeat. He is able, & His true grace is sufficient for your needs.
This is an interesting concept. Juxtaposing Peter's profession of love of Christ, to John's constant reference to himself as the Apostle JESUS loved. I think some meditation, and prayer is needed on it, but I'm pretty sure Peter's profession of love came in RESPONSE to Jesus' question about if he loved Him.
Peter, with pride, did say he wouldn't abandon Jesus if others did, but I don't remember him professing love at that time. Did Peter say prior to Jesus' resurrection that he loved Jesus? I'm sure he did love Him but I don't remember him saying it.
Peter, with pride, did say he wouldn't abandon Jesus if others did, but I don't remember him professing love at that time. Did Peter say prior to Jesus' resurrection that he loved Jesus? I'm sure he did love Him but I don't remember him saying it.