Why did Christ need to deliver us from under law?

[valiant]

To be 'under the Law' meant to be trusting it as the means by which we can find salvation. That was what the Scribes and Pharisees thought they could do, be saved by the way in which they observed the Law. It was never the original intention of the Law. Israel were not intended to be 'under the Law'. They were intended to see the Law as the Psalmist in Psalm119 did, as something to delight in. They were under grace. Redemption came first, backed up by sacrifices, obedience was to follow..


But we are certainly require to live in accordance with the Law, seeing it as revealing the mind of the God Whom we want to please.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

"Curse - Arar - meaning to execrate, to bring great harm or trouble upon someone.

Broken down to its Latin root, the word execrate means the opposite of being sacred or devoted to. When you execrate something you, are cursing it instead of making it holy. The word is not used all that often. If you say to someone, "I execrate you!" they might think you're casting an evil spell on them. Which in a way, by cursing them, you are." - (from dictionaries)



So if we don't keep the law we are not the sacred people anymore

God is not a god sitting with a little wand saying "curse, curse, curse" LOL what a ridiculous argument

lol.. Rediculous? Tell paul that

I used Deuteronomy passage for a reason. Why did you not catch what was really being said? Paul says it clearly in galations 3.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.”[SUP][e][/SUP] [SUP]11 [/SUP]But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.”[SUP][f][/SUP] [SUP]12 [/SUP]Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.”[SUP][g][/SUP]

[SUP]13 [/SUP]Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”[SUP][h][/SUP]), [SUP]14 [/SUP]that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.


Curse does not mean we are no longer sacred people, we never were to begin with. That my friend is a ridiculous statement.

And sadly, I can only fathom you do not yet understand the gospel. or you would never have made such a grievous mistake. How can you have repented fully if you do not even understand that the law condemns you completely. because you are under that curse (because even today you can not live up to that standard)

And no. God is not waving a wand, He is waving grace, saying here it is accept it before it is too late.

When will people recieve his grace by repenting fully. and not this watered down repentance I see so often..

 

[seed_time_harvest]

The classification of ‘ceremonial’ and ‘moral’ are entirely an invention of modern theology.

There are no such designations in scripture. In the ‘sermon on the mount’ Jesus did not distinguish between ‘moral’ and ‘ceremonial’ law.

If you will read Matthew 5:21-48 you will see that all aspects of the law were covered in Jesus’ message.

Keeping the Law did not change the heart of man, and thus keeping the law was of no benefit to man’s eternal destiny. Those who kept it the best (the Pharisees) were the most guilty of having corrupted hearts.


Andrew Wommack Ministries International -

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Your unsaved for two reasons, because you tried to save themself, Salvation by works. Or because you didn't accept the free grace that Jesus gives, reject Gods gift. What is Grace? My understanding is "favour when we don't deserve it". If there is no law to judge us by we are all free from sin and don't need a saviour.

Is there or isn't there a law?, We all agree that we are not under the penalty of the law, (NOT UNDER THE LAW), but is the law useless, is it completely thrown away, riped up, or not? If there isn't a law standing, we are not accountable to it in any way at all, we don't need redemption from sin because there is no law to call us sinners and we don''t need to worry about judgement day because we could stand up and say there is no law to judge us by, so God has no case. But if the law is still there we have a guide to explain what sin is and what unrighteousness is, and on judgement day the unsaved will have something to worry about because the law still applies to those that don't accept Jesus and His Grace.

Not under the law means not under its authority. Being without the law doesn't make us lawless because the two greatest commandments, that aren't listed in the 10 commandments, are written in our hearts.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

The classification of ‘ceremonial’ and ‘moral’ are entirely an invention of modern theology.

There are no such designations in scripture. In the ‘sermon on the mount’ Jesus did not distinguish between ‘moral’ and ‘ceremonial’ law.

If you will read Matthew 5:21-48 you will see that all aspects of the law were covered in Jesus’ message.

Keeping the Law did not change the heart of man, and thus keeping the law was of no benefit to man’s eternal destiny. Those who kept it the best (the Pharisees) were the most guilty of having corrupted hearts.


Andrew Wommack Ministries International -

It comes from the talmud.

 

[Ariel82]

I tend to compare the old covenant laws and new covenant laws to two law of nature: gravity and flight.

We know the law of gravity makes us stay on the Earth and not fly off into space.it is good and useful but if you jump off a cliff, it can cause you to die.

However if you have wings, you can fly. Gravity still works but a higher law is at work as well.

The moral laws are there. There are consequences of you break them. God will chastise his children. However he will not let the fall kill them. He will lift them up on wings of eagles and encourage us to run the good race of life. Sharing His love and truth with those around us.

People used to say we could not fly in heavier than air planes, but we learned how.

People used to condemn Jesus for saying He was the son of God, but He gave us the Holy spirit so we might all be called children of God. No longer slaves but adopted beloved children.

 

[onlinebuddy]

Is there or isn't there a law?, We all agree that we are not under the penalty of the law, (NOT UNDER THE LAW), but is the law useless, is it completely thrown away, riped up, or not? If there isn't a law standing, we are not accountable to it in any way at all, we don't need redemption from sin because there is no law to call us sinners and we don''t need to worry about judgement day because we could stand up and say there is no law to judge us by, so God has no case. But if the law is still there we have a guide to explain what sin is and what unrighteousness is, and on judgement day the unsaved will have something to worry about because the law still applies to those that don't accept Jesus and His Grace.

Is there or isn't there a law?

Yes, there is a law!

We all agree that we are not under the penalty of the law, (NOT UNDER THE LAW),

We are not under the penalty of the law because, in first place, we are not under the authority (jurisdiction) of the law. The Law was for the Jews.

but is the law useless, is it completely thrown away, riped up, or not?

No, the law is not useless. It tells us about the righteous requirements of God (who does not change like the shifting shadows). The law is not thrown away; it is included in the biblical canon. It is very useful to us so that we learn not to rely on our strength(works, performance) for salvation. It teaches us that we should not make the same mistake that the Jews in their arrogance made for 1500 odd years. We should accept Jesus ASAP since our boast (that we could make it on our own) has been removed, as proved by the 1500 year old history of the Jews.

If there isn't a law standing, we are not accountable to it in any way at all, we don't need redemption from sin because there is no law to call us sinners and we don''t need to worry about judgement day because we could stand up and say there is no law to judge us by, so God has no case.

You say that without the law God has no case? Offcourse God has a case, because our Judge will be our living and omniscient Lord Jesus. Jesus is the Law (for he has given us his commandments) and Jesus is the standard for judgement [John 12:48]. The standard of Jesus is much higher than that of the Law of Moses!
The law on stone judges adultery(outward sin); Jesus judges even a lustful thought(inner sin). The law on stone judges murder(outwardly obvious); Jesus judges even hatred(inner sin)! Praise God, we are saved by grace!

But if the law is still there we have a guide to explain what sin is and what unrighteousness is

Jesus is a better guide than the Law of Moses, since he taught by his example. The sermon on the mount is a better description of God's righteous requirements than the moral law written on stone.

and on judgement day the unsaved will have something to worry about because the law still applies to those that don't accept Jesus and His Grace.

Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.[John 3:18]
Yes, the unsaved have something to worry about, but it is not about the law. They have to worry about the fact that "they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son."
The law was a mere shadow; Christ is the reality!

 

[onlinebuddy]

I found this to be very helpful in answering your question...

The Ransom—God’s Greatest Gift | Bible Teach

There are 2 problems with this:
1. The question is biased towards a law-centric view.
2. The answer you have provided is from a group of people who deny the deity of Christ, and who have an incorrect interpretation of the Bible.

 

[onlinebuddy]

I found this to very helpful in clarification of the identity of Jesus Christ.

Who Is Jesus Christ? | Good News

Ask them further question, and they will tell you that Jesus is Michael the Archangel.