Why do some Christians think the Catholic Church is evil/wrong/herasy?

[ChristIsGod]

GodsGirl ~ I'm sorry but I haven't/can't read all of the posts so far but the one reason that I would have to give - having grown up being forced to go Catholic - is that they go WAY BEYOND what's in the Bible.... The Word of God is Christ's Name and the Word of God is what the Scriptures are or are named/called.

No man should ever go "beyond what is Written" and the RCC has so far gone away and mainly 'added to' what is written and subtracted from 'what is written' that it doesn't resemble 'what is written' in their core beliefs in the slightest AND many of their Ananthemas are against those that Do Believe 'what is written' and/or quoted from the mouth of Jesus, Himself.

We're responsible only to That Book and when we stand before Him after our life is through - The Books that will be opened will contain The Word of God as well as the Book of Life and the Book [so to speak] of our works [what we've done right or wrong]. So says Revelation ...

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.


All men that are in a position of teacher, pastor, elder, bishop, or in anyway teaching -- NEEDS to be checked for what they're saying to see if The Word of God agrees with what they're teaching and no man can add or subtract from the Word of God.

That's the rule of thumb from The Bible / The Word of God.




The LORD Bless you & by His Grace Guide you into "all truth", GodsGirl.
In His Love.

 

[elf3]

Well everything I was going to say has been said. I would like to make a suggestion though. On the Web look up different denominations and have a look at their doctrinal teaching and their statement of faith. From previewing these two things you can see where many (not just the RCC) have fallen away from teaching the true Gospel of Christ. I would suggest finding a church (any denomination) that follows Scripture and true Biblical teaching and and attend there. We need the truth not a watered down version to "please" the masses.

 

[secularhermit]

"6) Rome believes that the bread and wine of communion turns into the literal flesh and blood of Jesus Christ. Therefore, it encourages actual cannibalism."

This actally made me laugh, it's not taken literal lol

This hyperlink will serve you to see what they believe in the vatican. Just find it your own labguage:

Catecismo de la Iglesia Católica, Segunda parte, primera sección, capítulo primero, artículo 2, 1113-1134 Los sacramentos de Cristo

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1413 Por la consagración se realiza la transubstanciación del pan y del vino en el Cuerpo y la Sangre de Cristo. Bajo las especies consagradas del pan y del vino, Cristo mismo, vivo y glorioso, está presente de manera verdadera, real y substancial, con su Cuerpo, su Sangre, su alma y su divinidad (cf Concilio de Trento: DS 1640; 1651).

 

[phil112]

[h=2]Why do some Christians think the Catholic Church is evil/wrong/herasy[/h]

Ummm...because it is?

 

[Jeff_56]

the roman hierarchy has NEVER been Christian; no, not ever. the very adjective for it HERESY , is clear - they are opposed to the Bible. they are opposed to JESUS, they are opposed to Yahweh (the Creator) in earth and in heaven.
the group origin is anti-Scripture.

the fact that a few catholics may be saved, is true of most groups, not just the roman one. when someone in the roman group pledges allegiance TO JESUS, and NOT TO THE ooops, they get kicked out summarily....

Jesus will save anyone who turns to HIM (not anyone who turns to any church on earth). .... He didn't DIE to REDEEM churches, but people.

[h=2]Re: Why do xxxx all Christians xxxxx know the Catholic Church is evil/wrong/heresy?

Ummm...because it is?

(evil)
[/h]

"Anyways, most here are not Catholic because the site is called "Christian Chat" and not "Catholic Chat."

Catholicism is a branch of Christianity.

roman catholicism has NEVER been part of the body of Christ, no, not ever. when it first started with constantine, and forever after, it was OPPOSED to TRUTH, OPPOSED to CHRIST, and MURDERED the followers of JESUS, both Jews and gentiles.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

" this post from 13 years ago on the Free Republic website "
1) Catholics think the pope does not sin -->absolutely incorrect
2) Catholics think they can't pray to God directly but have to go through saints --> we pray directly to God and sometimes to saints
3) The Catholic Church teaches that one who isn't formally a Catholic is damned to Hell --> I was NEVER taught that

Did you note that the author said these are myths people believe about the Catholic Church??

 

[secularhermit]

"Anyways, most here are not Catholic because the site is called "Christian Chat" and not "Catholic Chat."

Catholicism is a branch of Christianity.

As you probably have seen, Jewish were the 1st "Christians" and, by times, that name was "coined" (Act 11:26 He found Saul and brought him to Antioch, where they met with the church for a whole year and taught many of its people. There in Antioch the Lord's followers were first called Christians. ) but each religious group sees itself as holier or more rooted on the movement and, history is plenty of events telling how things evolved, until now.

Some have called it "Chaoslic", same way "she" has called others their ways; and her Inquisition cannot be denied.

 

[notuptome]

The word catholic means universal. The church should be universal. When a church names itself Roman Catholic it's name then becomes a contradiction.

Do not judge by the external name but weigh the merits of the doctrines the most important of which is soteriology. If a church cannot demonstrate how to be saved and have your sins forgiven then what else is there? Who wants eternal life if it means eternal life in the flames of the lake of fire?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[twotwo]

I am Roman Catholic and I would like to hear your thoughts

RCC exaltation of their leaders is definitively not Christian.

RCC bishops and cardinal fanciful habiliment are definitively not Christian.

RCC gigantic wealth and richness (like Croesus) are definitively not Christian.

 

[kennethcadwell]

In order to be a branch you have to actually have life in that branch which comes from the trunk or the Tree of Life (Who is Jesus). They never were a branch of true Christianity. Catholicism is the result of taking various aspects of pagan Roman religious practices and mixing it with elements of Christianity. It never was an official branch of true Christianity. It has always been false since it's formation with Constantine.

I was in the Catholic church for 5 years Jason.
They still preach faith in the Lord Jesus, and they teach repentance, confession, and baptism. ( Even though I don't agree with how they do the baptizing. The part of you saying its formation with Constantine is false. Constantine did not form the Catholic church, it already existed by that time he became a Christian. Because of all the strife that was going on in the church at the time Constantine just made the Catholic church the main accepted church at that time to try and bring all together. He did along with others then bring in pagan Roman practices, but the Catholic church already existed before him.

The Catholic church existed in the 2nd century ( 101-200 A.D. ), and Constantine did not come into the picture tell 313 A.D. which is the 4th century. ( 301-400 A.D. )

 

[secularhermit]

Some latin-american churches also have their leaders exalted, like this "apostle"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VyuCCX8AfYc

 

[JonahLynx]

"6) Rome believes that the bread and wine of communion turns into the literal flesh and blood of Jesus Christ. Therefore, it encourages actual cannibalism."

This actally made me laugh, it's not taken literal lol

Yes it is - according to official Catholic doctrine - the Eucharist sacrament results in the bread and wine transforming into the literal flesh of Jesus Christ. The catechism defines this as "transubstantiation," and it is the primary reason that communion is a highly ritualistic event for Catholics. However, it is apparent that even most Catholics are unaware of this belief.

Protestants, on the other hand, believe that the bread and wine are representative of Christ rather than physical manifestations of His body through mysticism and ritual.

 

[Jason0047]

I was in the Catholic church for 5 years Jason.
They still preach faith in the Lord Jesus, and they teach repentance, confession, and baptism. ( Even though I don't agree with how they do the baptizing. The part of you saying its formation with Constantine is false. Constantine did not form the Catholic church, it already existed by that time he became a Christian. Because of all the strife that was going on in the church at the time Constantine just made the Catholic church the main accepted church at that time to try and bring all together. He did along with others then bring in pagan Roman practices, but the Catholic church already existed before him.

The Catholic church existed in the 2nd century ( 101-200 A.D. ), and Constantine did not come into the picture tell 313 A.D. which is the 4th century. ( 301-400 A.D. )

It does not impress me that you were in the Catholic Church for 5 years. In fact, those who are a part of it and or those who think the Catholic Church is a sister church are being deceived.

In fact, I am sure the RCC would like for you to believe the Catholic church existed prior to Constantine. History can be faked and doctored to make you believe otherwise. For History is written by the victors. Read up on their origins here:

What is the origin of the Catholic Church?

Also, it does not matter if they teach Jesus Christ and or have similar elements to Christianity. They teach idolatry, praying to the dead, pagan rituals, and confessing your sins to a man to be forgiven (Instead of just going directly to Jesus). In other words, they preach a false Christ. For Jesus would never allow His people to practice the evil religious things that goes on in the Catholic Church. So no. They were never Christian. For how can you bow down to an idol and serve Jesus and be right with God? Doesn't make sense.

 

[kennethcadwell]

It does not impress me that you were in the Catholic Church for 5 years. In fact, those who are a part of it and or those who think the Catholic Church is a sister church are being deceived.

In fact, I am sure the RCC would like for you to believe the Catholic church existed prior to Constantine. History can be faked and doctored to make you believe otherwise. For History is written by the victors. Read up on their origins here:

What is the origin of the Catholic Church?

Also, it does not matter if they teach Jesus Christ and or have similar elements to Christianity. They teach idolatry, praying to the dead, pagan rituals, and confessing your sins to a man to be forgiven (Instead of just going directly to Jesus). In other words, they preach a false Christ. For Jesus would never allow His people to practice the evil religious things that goes on in the Catholic Church. So no. They were never Christian. For how can you bow down to an idol and serve Jesus and be right with God? Doesn't make sense.

Jason I am not part of that church any more because of the fallacies they teach.
What I was showing is they still teach the base principles of belief in Him, and to repent, be baptized, and confession.
But they also teach all those added on falsehoods. The thing is that I can also take every single denomination and point out falsehoods/fallacies they teach as well in their churches.

No the Catholic church is not the one who got me to believing that it existed before Constantine. All you have to do is take and do a true history background on the church yourself. The site you gave does not give a total true history background. I do not believe the church started back with Peter and Paul, for that is false teaching of history.
I showed how Catholic was used in the early 2nd century which is between 101-200 AD, which is over 70 years later after the Lord's crucifixion. The church came into existence at this time, and then when Constantine became a Christian from seeing a burning cross in the air he joined the Catholic church, not start it. He deemed that because of all the strife and division at that time they needed one main accepted religion and church, and he made the Catholic church that one accepted church in the 4th Century. Catholic was already in affect since the 2nd century, so he didn't start it.

 

[kennethcadwell]

The word catholic (with lowercase c; derived via Late Latin catholicus, from the Greek adjective καθολικός (katholikos), meaning "universal"[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP]) comes from the Greek phraseκαθόλου (katholou), meaning "on the whole", "according to the whole" or "in general", and is a combination of the Greek words κατά meaning "about" and ὅλος meaning "whole".[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP] The word in English can mean either "including a wide variety of things; all-embracing" or "of the Roman Catholic faith" as "relating to the historic doctrine and practice of the Western Church.".[SUP][5][/SUP] ("Catholicos, the title used for the head of some churches in Eastern Christian traditions, is derived from the same linguistic origin.)
The term Catholic (usually written with uppercase C in English) was first used to describe the Christian Church in the early 2nd century to emphasize its universal scope. In the context of Christian ecclesiology, it has a rich history and several usages. In non-ecclesiastical use, it derives its English meaning directly from its root, and is currently used to mean the following:

 

[notuptome]

Yes it is - according to official Catholic doctrine - the Eucharist sacrament results in the bread and wine transforming into the literal flesh of Jesus Christ. The catechism defines this as "transubstantiation," and it is the primary reason that communion is a highly ritualistic event for Catholics. However, it is apparent that even most Catholics are unaware of this belief.

My 90 year old Father in Law certainly believes this with great zeal. He is depending on it to keep him out of hell.

Protestants, on the other hand, believe that the bread and wine are representative of Christ rather than physical manifestations of His body through mysticism and ritual.

The only reasonable conclusion to draw from scripture and history.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[David_1]

Catholics worship God, Protestants here worship the Bible. Oh, they say they don't worship the bible... but they do. They say things like: God wrote the bible. When that is no where near accurate and has never been the understanding until very recently.

At least half of the Bible is purely Jewish and written in that tradition. There are many authors of the various books, some are even referred to as Prophets.

So, that is at the heart of the issue. Protestants worships the bible, like as if the various authors don't exist and God alone sat down with a pen. Whereas the Catholic Church worships God, and acknowledges the teachings of the 'fathers', who are both the prophets of biblical books, and Various Catholic Church theologians.

Martin Luther never intended the Bible to be worshiped, but there it is today.

And when I say the bible is worshiped, it's hardly ever read.

Just as Jesus is now worshiped as simply a sacrifice to forgive sins, his aspect as 'Rabbi' is ignored by most Protestant Christians because his ethics contradict the financial goals of Rupert Murdoch/Fox News/Republicans and oil companies.

That's the summary of current events.

So yeah, Catholics are evil. Whatever distracts people.

 

[Nick01]

Sola scriptura. That's where the rubber hits the road for me. You can't have a sensible discussion about salvation, or ecclesiology, or the Eucharist, if you can't agree where your authority lies.

Many Catholics will say they value Scripture highly, and that it is in some sense their 'ultimate' authority, but then contradict themselves when they try to make arguments about the authority of the church to 'teach' and how the church was and is necessary to validate Scripture (on the basis of the 'teaching authority'). In no sense can these two things both be held to be true.

 

[kennethcadwell]

Sola scriptura. That's where the rubber hits the road for me. You can't have a sensible discussion about salvation, or ecclesiology, or the Eucharist, if you can't agree where your authority lies.

Many Catholics will say they value Scripture highly, and that it is in some sense their 'ultimate' authority, but then contradict themselves when they try to make arguments about the authority of the church to 'teach' and how the church was and is necessary to validate Scripture (on the basis of the 'teaching authority'). In no sense can these two things both be held to be true.

Which is why I left the church after 5 years, because even though they give the basic principles for salvation through Christ. They also take and say they have authority to add or take away from scripture. If the Pope says it, then it is to be followed rather it contradicts scripture or not.
We are to help these brothers and sisters see the fallacies, not just out right condemn them up front as some do.
I have seen more showing of love from some Catholic's then I have seen from fellow Christians on here and in the world, and also vise versa.
We are told not to bring condemnation to nobody, their is no love in that.

 

[Jason0047]

Catholics worship God, Protestants here worship the Bible. Oh, they say they don't worship the bible... but they do. They say things like: God wrote the bible. When that is no where near accurate and has never been the understanding until very recently.

At least half of the Bible is purely Jewish and written in that tradition. There are many authors of the various books, some are even referred to as Prophets.

So, that is at the heart of the issue. Protestants worships the bible, like as if the various authors don't exist and God alone sat down with a pen. Whereas the Catholic Church worships God, and acknowledges the teachings of the 'fathers', who are both the prophets of biblical books, and Various Catholic Church theologians.

Martin Luther never intended the Bible to be worshiped, but there it is today.

And when I say the bible is worshiped, it's hardly ever read.

Just as Jesus is now worshiped as simply a sacrifice to forgive sins, his aspect as 'Rabbi' is ignored by most Protestant Christians because his ethics contradict the financial goals of Rupert Murdoch/Fox News/Republicans and oil companies.

That's the summary of current events.

So yeah, Catholics are evil. Whatever distracts people.

Bible believing Christians that believe in Sola Scriptura do not worship the Bible. There is a difference between worship and or bowing down to something and having a reverance for it. For example: If I send a love letter to my fiance, she will cherish it. But she will not think it is me and take it out on dates and stuff. It is the same thing with the Bible. Christians may cherish it, but they do not bow down to it and or treat it as if it was God Himself. God is Spirit and they that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and truth. Catholics do not worship God in truth. They practice idolatry, pray to the dead, and involve themsleves in pagan like rituals.