Why I Am An Apostate
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hmm, I talk to my children as children. I talk to my wife as a friend and lover and partner in life. I talk to my friends as people, and relate to them as such.
Why would I talk to God any different?
God wants to have a relationship with his creation. thats why he created us, We destroyed that relationship. God sent his son to restor that relationship.
He did not do it so we can relate to him in some formal way, We would never talk to our parents or our children or wifes or hisbands or anyone else that way, we would be seen as idiots or as mentally handicapped.
why do you insist we do this with God? and call us HATERS if we disagree with you?
Sir, i have never condemned any of you to hell. That's not my job. But to say you love someone while you tell them they are going to hell? What kind of love is that? Like I said, I have never told any of you you are going to hell. That is God's decision. So which ummm, hypocrisy on my part are you trying to point out?
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The Father's legitimate children would never recite a rote mantra like the
Ave Maria because they're commanded to approach the throne of grace with
candor.
†. Heb 4:16 . . Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we
may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.
The Greek word for "boldly" is parrhesia (par-rhay-see'-ah) which means all
out-spokenness, i.e. frankness, bluntness, and/or confidence.
In other words: the Father's legitimate children are not supposed to be shy
about speaking up and telling their Father exactly what's on their minds.
Mantras like the Ave Maria are not what I call forthright, out-spoken,
frankness and/or speaking up.
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The Father's legitimate children would never recite a rote mantra like the
Ave Maria because they're commanded to approach the throne of grace with
candor.
†. Heb 4:16 . . Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we
may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.
The Greek word for "boldly" is parrhesia (par-rhay-see'-ah) which means all
out-spokenness, i.e. frankness, bluntness, and/or confidence.
In other words: the Father's legitimate children are not supposed to be shy
about speaking up and telling their Father exactly what's on their minds.
Mantras like the Ave Maria are not what I call forthright, out-spoken,
frankness and/or speaking up.
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In essence, the beads of a rosary are little more than a string of rote prayers
rather than the candor commanded by Heb 4:16. So then rosaries are in
essence a string of mantras repeated over and over and over again, which is
a clear violation of not only Heb 4:16, but also Christ's God-given instructions.
†. Matt 6:7-9 . . In praying, do not babble like the pagans, who think that
they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them. Your
Father knows what you need before you ask Him.
I appeal not only to your reason, but also to your sensibilities. Suppose the
door bell rang one day and when you opened up-- yikes! --it was God
himself in person! Would you welcome God into your home by reading from
a missal and/or chanting a rosary; or would you greet Him as you do real
visitors? Well, the Bible's God is real; so treat Him with the courtesy and
respect that His intelligence deserves if you expect Him to reciprocate and
treat you with courtesy and respect in return.
Do you speak to your friends, your associates, your spouse, your domestic
partner, your significant other, your doctor, your dentist, supermarket
cashiers, or the cops by repeating the same thing over and over again? Of
course not. They would write you off as one in desperate need of therapy if
you did. Then why would anyone think it makes sense to speak to God by
saying the same thing over and over again?
Don't you think He looks upon rote chanters as mental cases when they do
that? Of course He does; who wouldn't? How would you like it if everybody
spoke to you like that? Well, He doesn't like it either. God is far more
intelligent than anybody you could possibly name and rote chanters are
treating Him like a totem pole. The Bible's God is a king who deserves far
more respect than a US President yet people are speaking to Him like a tape
recorder rather than the ultimate Sovereign that He is.
Don't ever treat Christ's father like some sort of sounding board. Not even
Forrest Gump would appreciate being spoken to in rote, and God's IQ is way
higher than Forrest's; so how do you suppose He feels about being
addressed in rote. The Bible's God is a sentient, sensible person; and we all
need to show some respect for His intelligence. I guarantee He will be most
grateful for your regard.
According to Christ, his Father is dissatisfied with rituals; preferring instead
honest, heart to heart associations with His worshippers.
†. John 4:23-24 . . A time is coming, and has now come, when the true
worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of
worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship
in spirit and in truth.
A very serious flaw with rosaries is the number of mantras devoted, not to
God, but to a woman-- Jesus' mom --which is in direct opposition to the
spirit of God's son, and the spirit of adoption.
†. Rom 8:15-17 . . For you have not received a spirit of bondage again to
fear; but you have received a spirit of adoption, whereby we call out: Abba!
Father.
†. Gal 4:6 . . And because you are sons, God has sent forth the spirit of His
son into your hearts calling out: Abba! Father.
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In essence, the beads of a rosary are little more than a string of rote prayers
rather than the candor commanded by Heb 4:16. So then rosaries are in
essence a string of mantras repeated over and over and over again, which is
a clear violation of not only Heb 4:16, but also Christ's God-given instructions.
†. Matt 6:7-9 . . In praying, do not babble like the pagans, who think that
they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them. Your
Father knows what you need before you ask Him.
I appeal not only to your reason, but also to your sensibilities. Suppose the
door bell rang one day and when you opened up-- yikes! --it was God
himself in person! Would you welcome God into your home by reading from
a missal and/or chanting a rosary; or would you greet Him as you do real
visitors? Well, the Bible's God is real; so treat Him with the courtesy and
respect that His intelligence deserves if you expect Him to reciprocate and
treat you with courtesy and respect in return.
Do you speak to your friends, your associates, your spouse, your domestic
partner, your significant other, your doctor, your dentist, supermarket
cashiers, or the cops by repeating the same thing over and over again? Of
course not. They would write you off as one in desperate need of therapy if
you did. Then why would anyone think it makes sense to speak to God by
saying the same thing over and over again?
Don't you think He looks upon rote chanters as mental cases when they do
that? Of course He does; who wouldn't? How would you like it if everybody
spoke to you like that? Well, He doesn't like it either. God is far more
intelligent than anybody you could possibly name and rote chanters are
treating Him like a totem pole. The Bible's God is a king who deserves far
more respect than a US President yet people are speaking to Him like a tape
recorder rather than the ultimate Sovereign that He is.
Don't ever treat Christ's father like some sort of sounding board. Not even
Forrest Gump would appreciate being spoken to in rote, and God's IQ is way
higher than Forrest's; so how do you suppose He feels about being
addressed in rote. The Bible's God is a sentient, sensible person; and we all
need to show some respect for His intelligence. I guarantee He will be most
grateful for your regard.
According to Christ, his Father is dissatisfied with rituals; preferring instead
honest, heart to heart associations with His worshippers.
†. John 4:23-24 . . A time is coming, and has now come, when the true
worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of
worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship
in spirit and in truth.
A very serious flaw with rosaries is the number of mantras devoted, not to
God, but to a woman-- Jesus' mom --which is in direct opposition to the
spirit of God's son, and the spirit of adoption.
†. Rom 8:15-17 . . For you have not received a spirit of bondage again to
fear; but you have received a spirit of adoption, whereby we call out: Abba!
Father.
†. Gal 4:6 . . And because you are sons, God has sent forth the spirit of His
son into your hearts calling out: Abba! Father.
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who has said you are going to hell? Only God can charge that.
You still have issues, Scripture says there is one gospel. not two. not three. not a whole bunch of gospels which has the basics right, but differs in other areas. But one, in fact, it says if anyone teach a different gospel. they are to be accursed..
Thus according to scripture. your church teaches that everyone who is not of them, is going to hell (they can deny it all they want, but in denying git, they only again deny scripture.
only one of the many many inconsistencies, and denying of scripture that the roman church has done.
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I wonder that myself. What type of things did Jesus repeat over and over so he could ralate to his father, and be more like his father?
I always thought the way to act like someone was to study their whole life. and learn why they did the things they did, how did they think, why did they think that way, what was their intended purpose etc etc.
repetition never did anything, in fact, we are warned against it, Yet we see people ignoring the warning, and do it any way.
I always thought the way to act like someone was to study their whole life. and learn why they did the things they did, how did they think, why did they think that way, what was their intended purpose etc etc.
repetition never did anything, in fact, we are warned against it, Yet we see people ignoring the warning, and do it any way.
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Due to the gravity of eternal destinies like Heaven and Hell; the gloves have
got to come off; viz: there is just no way I can word my reasons for parting
company with Rome in such a way as to completely avoid hurting
somebody's feelings without compromising my own integrity and doing
disservice to Christ.
†. Gal 1:10 . . Am I now trying to win the approval of men, or of God? Or
am I trying to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not
be a servant of Christ.
To my knowledge, turning the other cheek has not yet gone out of vogue; so
instead of carping, complaining, and finding fault all the time, do what's right
instead.
†. 1Pet 2:21-23 . . Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you
should follow in his steps. When they hurled their insults at him, he did not
retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted
himself to him who judges justly.
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Due to the gravity of eternal destinies like Heaven and Hell; the gloves have
got to come off; viz: there is just no way I can word my reasons for parting
company with Rome in such a way as to completely avoid hurting
somebody's feelings without compromising my own integrity and doing
disservice to Christ.
†. Gal 1:10 . . Am I now trying to win the approval of men, or of God? Or
am I trying to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not
be a servant of Christ.
To my knowledge, turning the other cheek has not yet gone out of vogue; so
instead of carping, complaining, and finding fault all the time, do what's right
instead.
†. 1Pet 2:21-23 . . Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you
should follow in his steps. When they hurled their insults at him, he did not
retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted
himself to him who judges justly.
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