Would you sacrifice your child if God asked you to?

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:hrmm: trust the word of god my brethrens brothers sisters
the god who is good and cannot lie
will never give a commandment to kill your own people
neither killing anyone especially the little children
just to sacrifice them in his name
as it is written
:read:
Mateo: 7. 12.
Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
13. Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14. Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17. Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

:alien: that will be the evil things who deceived those people
to sacrifice their own child
as it is written
:read:
Marcos: 1. 29.
And forthwith, when they were come out of the synagogue, they entered into the house of Simon and Andrew, with James and John.
30. But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell him of her.
31. And he came and took her by the hand, and lifted her up; and immediately the fever left her, and she ministered unto them.
32. And at even, when the sun did set, they brought unto him all that were diseased, and them that were possessed with devils.
33. And all the city was gathered together at the door.
34. And he healed many that were sick of divers diseases, and cast out many devils; and suffered not the devils to speak, because they knew him.

~;> AND SO AS IT IS WRITTEN
:read: (as it is written)
Lucas: 4. 38.
And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her.
39. And he stood over her, and rebuked the fever; and it left her: and immediately she arose and ministered unto them.
40. Now when the sun was setting, all they that had any sick with divers diseases brought them unto him; and he laid his hands on every one of them, and healed them.
41. And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ.

... . remember always
about the scriptures that is written about
the devil
as it is written
:read:
Juan: 8. 42.
Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

44. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
 

Chester

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#42
If God told me to sacrifice my child - would I do it? Yes
but he won't tell me to do that because he has already spoken on the issue in His Word - and He never contradicts Himself

Now why did He ask Abraham to do it? the Old Covenant - to provide a picture for us today of which the giving of God's own Son Jesus was the fulfillment

Hebrews 10:12-14 King James Version (KJV)[SUP]12 [/SUP]But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
[SUP]13 [/SUP]From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
 

oyster67

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#43
We are so accustomed in this culture to thinking that death is a negative thing. Maybe, when we become Christians, we ought to view things differently. Perhaps Abe saw the death of a child of God as a beautiful thing for the one going to a beautiful land. Dying is ugly. It is usually sad for the ones being left behind, but remember how David reacted after the death of Bathsheba's baby? We must not assume that Abe was a hard, insensitive person. We shouldn't assume that it was a hard thing for Abe to do or that he hesitated for one second. Some people say that Abe assumed that God would pull something off at the last second. I don't know now, but someday we will.

I'm sure that most of us would find it a rather difficult thing to do, but for me, the challenging question is "why?"

(Ps 116:12 [KJV])
What shall I render unto the LORD [for] all his benefits toward me?

(Ps 116:13 [KJV])
I will take the cup of salvation, and call upon the name of the LORD.

(Ps 116:14 [KJV])
I will pay my vows unto the LORD now in the presence of all his people.

(Ps 116:15 [KJV])
Precious in the sight of the LORD [is] the death of his saints.
 

oyster67

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suggestion: tread out of the deep end. This Abrahamic concept runs DEEP.
I suspect that God would not ask just any little Johnny McChristian to do that. Most couldn't even handle this one:

(Luke 18:22 [KJV])
Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.
 

oyster67

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Well, if God asks you something directly like he did for abraham then it is more direct than the bible. Isn t it?
We tread into dangerous waters when we start conjuring up hypotheticals like this.

An example; "What if God asks me to do something really, really nasty and bad?"
 

oyster67

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#46
Ok fair enough. But that s one of the things i am struggling with: why did God allows all this evil?
We must come to grips with the limitations of our own understanding.

(Isa 55:8 [KJV])
For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

(Isa 55:9 [KJV])
For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
 

WebersHome

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Gen 22:1-3 . . Now it came about after these things, that God tested
Abraham,

This particular test wasn't meant to test Abraham's obedience, rather, to
test his faith.

Heb 11:17a . . By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac

Abraham had been promised that the covenant God made with the old
gentleman would be realized in Isaac (Gen 17:21). Well that promise would
certainly be short-circuited if Isaac were to die before fathering even one
child.

According to Gen 15:6, Abraham was confident that God is a man of His
word. Thus, Abraham reasoned in his mind that God would have to restore
Isaac to life in order to fulfill the promise.

Heb 11:17b-19 . . and he that had received the promises offered up his
only begotten son, of whom it was said: That in Isaac shall thy seed be
called. Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead;
from whence also he received him in a figure.

The big question on my mind is how did Abraham manage to persuade Isaac
to do it. I mean, without Isaac's consent, the whole affair would have been a
ritual murder; and at this time. Isaac wasn't a child. He was old enough and
strong enough to shoulder a load of wood, and intelligent enough to
understand their propose there that day.

Isaac's faith is never mentioned in connection with this incident. But I've no
doubt the lad trusted his dad that death would only be temporary.
Somehow, Abraham convinced Isaac that God would surely raise him from
the dead in order to make good on the promises made to his dad.

That young man really had guts; and incredible trust in his dad too. I'll tell
you what: those two men deserve our deepest admiration. What an
incredible display of faith and courage; both on the part of Abraham and on
the part of his son Isaac.

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p_rehbein

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Absolutely......... I'd kill anyone if God asked, any good Christian would. Chalk it up to a little thing called obedience. "He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me" (Matthew 10:37).
I sincerely hope this is sarcasm.......
 

GuessWho

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Perhaps Abe saw the death of a child of God as a beautiful thing for the one going to a beautiful land.
No...he didn't.

A father is a father, no matter the time and the culture in which he lives. The request of sacrificing his child fell over Abraham just like it would fall on a postmodern father: like a sword in the heart.
 

oyster67

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It is 1:30am and I will not rest until I make this post. First-off, I have no children. Perhaps this disqualifies me from this post in your mind. So be it. I believe the eyes of the Lord are searching the earth for a man who will respond with an unqualified 'Yes Lord' answer to anything He asks. We will stand before Him someday and our answer to this thread may be written down in bold print in a book that is laid open before us. I want my entry to read 'Yes'. I don't think for a moment that I could find either the strength or the courage to do much of anything, but I believe He would provide that just like the Lord provided the ram in the thicket for Abraham. Just responding with a "Yes Lord" is the that first step of faith. The priests carrying the Ark stepped out ankle deep into the waters. Peter stepped out of the boat. I will at least say 'yes'. I would not grab my doctrinal handbook to argue with God about what dispensation I am in.

I am very excited to enter this post because I know that Satan hates it. The first time I tried to post it, He fried it. Fortunatly I was able to retrieve it from auto-save.
 

Angela53510

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Interesting! All the men answered "yes" who are willing to commit themselves. All the women answered "no!" I guess the nurturing power of women wins out, and the fighting urge, disguised as pretending to be obedient, when it was more arrogance or pride in their self righteousness which wins for the men.

God would never demand this! Just as Jesus didn't in his life on earth. Jesus was the Prince of Peace! He is not the Destroyer! That title belongs to another!r

As for Abraham, he was picked because of his dedication and faithfulness. This was a type, it foreshadowed Jesus to come! And no one in this forum is Abraham and he completed his task a long time ago!

No, I would never sacrifice a child under any circumstances! I love children too much to do that! And yes, I love God more, but I know he would never ask me to perform such a horrific act!
 
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Tintin

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No, I would not.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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no...i would never sacrifice a child because God's word specifically commands against it...

i would doubt my ears that hear 'God' asking me to do this thing before i disobey his commands against it in scripture...

and before anyone mentions abraham...abraham did not have those commands yet...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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for that matter...scripture states that any such 'revelation' purporting to be from God that goes against what God has already spoken in his word...is false prophecy and must be rejected...
 
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:rofl: hey :whistle: you really just like to watch
for now
for you are much a learner than i
 

Adstar

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Struggling with the concept of child killing in the Bible.
Would you kill a child if God asked you to?
God would never require me to sacrifice a child.. So your question is not profitable for you.
 
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Struggling with the concept of child killing in the Bible.
Would you kill a child if God asked you to?
This is exactly how guilt-driven people living under strict adherence to religious law evolve into religious fanatics and militant extremists. :p

Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
 

oyster67

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Interesting! All the men answered "yes" who are willing to commit themselves. All the women answered "no!" I guess the nurturing power of women wins out, and the fighting urge, disguised as pretending to be obedient, when it was more arrogance or pride in their self righteousness which wins for the men.

God would never demand this! Just as Jesus didn't in his life on earth. Jesus was the Prince of Peace! He is not the Destroyer! That title belongs to another!r

As for Abraham, he was picked because of his dedication and faithfulness. This was a type, it foreshadowed Jesus to come! And no one in this forum is Abraham and he completed his task a long time ago!

No, I would never sacrifice a child under any circumstances! I love children too much to do that! And yes, I love God more, but I know he would never ask me to perform such a horrific act!
(Matt 10:33 [KJV])
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

(Matt 10:34 [KJV])
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

(Matt 10:35 [KJV])
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

(Matt 10:36 [KJV])
And a man's foes [shall be] they of his own household.

(Matt 10:37 [KJV])
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

(Matt 10:38 [KJV])
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
 

oyster67

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:rofl: hey :whistle: you really just like to watch
for now
for you are much a learner than i
You really are too humble :) I am sure that all the ukoks are very good learners.