Yoga cures Homosexuality?

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kaylagrl

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Def.-[FONT=arial, sans-serif-light, sans-serif]a Hindu spiritual and ascetic discipline, a part of which, including breath control, simple meditation, and the adoption of specific bodily postures, is widely practiced for health and relaxation[/FONT]


[FONT=arial, sans-serif-light, sans-serif]​ It is indeed a religion.I believe you can do the [/FONT][FONT=arial, sans-serif-light, sans-serif]exercise[/FONT][FONT=arial, sans-serif-light, sans-serif] on your own without doing their type of meditation.I certainly dont believe it will send one to hell if you do it in that manner. This really has no bearing on whether it "cures" homosexuality.Only God can take away sin no matter the sin.

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PeacefulWarrior

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blondieindahouse said:
There is a demonic spirit attached to yoga whether you recognize it or not.
It is the focus on movement and the mantras. Even if you do not say the mantras;they already abound because of what yoga really is in the spirit! It manifests itself in the NATURAL.

It is utter nonsense to say:yoga means this to me". In the same vein; I could say: my sisterinlaws Indian dream catcher is not harmful hanging in her house because she is not aware that it is to REALLY trap and keep evil spirits around the owner.


we wrestle not against flesh and blood .......................
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I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree. A dreamcatcher is an inanimate object -- if I have zero symbolic meaning attached to that object (it's just a pretty decoration) then it is not evil. An object cannot be evil itself, just as a physical exercise cannot be evil, itself.

The evil happens in your heart and mind.
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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kaylagrl said:
Def.-a Hindu spiritual and ascetic discipline, a part of which, including breath control, simple meditation, and the adoption of specific bodily postures, is widely practiced for health and relaxation


​ It is indeed a religion.I believe you can do the exercise on your own without doing their type of meditation.I certainly dont believe it will send one to hell if you do it in that manner. This really has no bearing on whether it "cures" homosexuality.Only God can take away sin no matter the sin.
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Yes, ^ This!
 
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kaylagrl said:
Def.-a Hindu spiritual and ascetic discipline, a part of which, including breath control, simple meditation, and the adoption of specific bodily postures, is widely practiced for health and relaxation


​ It is indeed a religion.I believe you can do the exercise on your own without doing their type of meditation.I certainly dont believe it will send one to hell if you do it in that manner. This really has no bearing on whether it "cures" homosexuality.Only God can take away sin no matter the sin.
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It may have been created by religious people, but even then it is still just stretching :p And really, stretching existed before Hindus did :p God never told us not to stretch and practice breathing exercises. Those are just healthy things to do :p

If you went to a place that offered you how to stretch and practice good breathing exercises, and called it skippity-do, would we be having this same conversation? :p
Hinduism is bad, it is a false path created by spirits to destroy man. But I dunno how that applies to stretching :p


And I would agree that it wont "cure" urges, but Id call it a good way to deal with them :p

I mean Id just call the word "cure" bad wording, or also a demonic doctrine meant to lead a concerned person dealing with temptation to a false gospel, demons tempting men with homosexuality laying off it when the person turns towards a false gospel out of fear. But a But to say exercise can help with urges, Id push that definitely.
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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Yeraza_Bats said:
It may have been created by religious people, but even then it is still just stretching :p And really, stretching existed before Hindus did :p God never told us not to stretch and practice breathing exercises. Those are just healthy things to do :p

If you went to a place that offered you how to stretch and practice good breathing exercises, and called it skippity-do, would we be having this same conversation? :p
Hinduism is bad, it is a false path created by spirits to destroy man. But I dunno how that applies to stretching :p


And I would agree that it wont "cure" urges, but Id call it a good way to deal with them :p

I mean Id just call the word "cure" bad wording, or also a demonic doctrine meant to lead a concerned person dealing with temptation to a false gospel, demons tempting men with homosexuality laying off it when the person turns towards a false gospel out of fear. But a But to say exercise can help with urges, Id push that definitely.
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Rawr! Skippity-do is of the Devil! Rawr! Ur gonna burn! Rawr!

Go read your Bible.

(Sorry, I'm done.)
 
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Yeraza_Bats said:
I dont believe that doing stretches is demon worship :p Even Paul wrote that meat prepared for false idols is just meat.

I cant think of one commandment that says not to workout your body in this or that way, just not to worship idols. If your heart is on Christ, does it really matter that the exercise your doing is often done by people who do worship false idols?
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If the exercisers heart,mind and soul are focused on Christ;the indwelling spirit would warn and he would discern that something is not as it seems.
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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This is from a different thread, but I'm putting it here because it is needed right now!

BarlyGurl said:
Bingo! and that is essentially a matter for God to convict each in their own heart and mind as only HS rightly divides the thoughts and intentions of man. I DO think this is a very good topic for constructive discussion to inform ourselves on how we might "view" scenarios and learn how to apply corporate "grace" to others if or when a challenge arises. It isn't okay to "manipulate" people spiritually to conform them to our thinking.
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Reminds me of this:

[h=1]Romans 14:2(NIV)[/h]2 One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables.
 
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JustAnotherUser

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Yeraza_Bats said:
Well, next time you struggle with sexual urges, try exercise :p

I wont say it will bring an end to all temptation ever, but it can definitely help you focus your mind away from temptation, and put all your bodys energy to the exercise youre practicing.
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I don't refute the fact that exercise can improve physical and mental health. But to say that yoga eliminates homosexuality sounds like a broad claim that would need lots of proof with multiple testimonies and why it would aim to get rid of homosexuality and not other sexual acts.
 
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PeacefulWarrior said:
I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree. A dreamcatcher is an inanimate object -- if I have zero symbolic meaning attached to that object (it's just a pretty decoration) then it is not evil. An object cannot be evil itself, just as a physical exercise cannot be evil, itself.

The evil happens in your heart and mind.
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Well would you hang "art" that was specifically using satanic icons or symbols? I understand that perhaps you did not "KNOW" the symbols or icons were satanic in origin... but once it was pointed out to you... probably would change your attitude toward the "art" eh? Gosh I hope your answer is YES. Anyway, in the same manner is a "dream-catcher" hanging in your house and because you find it attractive you are keeping it whilst trying to justify it means nothing at all? Hmmm, might wanna think on that some more brother. :)
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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BarlyGurl said:
is a "dream-catcher" hanging in your house and because you find it attractive you are keeping it whilst trying to justify it means nothing at all? Hmmm, might wanna think on that some more brother. :)
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If it's in my house (and I am not aware of any evil symbolic attachments), it's not causing my Brother (or Sister) to stumble...

If a guest comes into my house and says: Hey -- that [object] is a sign of the Devil!
Then I would likely take it down (or decline to invite that person over again...or simply take it down whenever I know they're coming over)! ;)
 
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PartyOf3

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This has gone ridiculous!!!! I know that my heart mind and spirit is focused on my Lord and savior and on GOD the father. I pray, meditate and worship while cooking, running, stretching, driving, fishing, relaxing and any activity that I can quiet my mind, you don't know me, you can't read my mind, you can't read my heart. You can not compare hanging demonic pictures on the wall to stretching/yoga. Lamaze is a form of controlled breathing while meditating I didn't call on any demonic spirit. I know my Father is still with me! I called upon Him just recently because I was having a coughing spell that I couldn't catch my breath and He immediately stopped my coughing! So much judgment from so called fellow believers on this forum that it is bizarre
 
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BarlyGurl

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Um... PW... you have divided the context from the question and veered off course... basically "bent the arrow" here so I will leave the matter... until time presents another opportunity.
 
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Yoga means to yoke. To what is yoga seeking to yoke you to? It's not much to wonder at. One can even see in this article the subtle agenda that it's purpose is to proselytize the abominations and shame of India.

Be not troubled though. Anyone can be forgiven. You don't need to do yoga to stretch.
 
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BarlyGurl

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PartyOf3 said:
This has gone ridiculous!!!! I know that my heart mind and spirit is focused on my Lord and savior and on GOD the father. I pray, meditate and worship while cooking, running, stretching, driving, fishing, relaxing and any activity that I can quiet my mind, you don't know me, you can't read my mind, you can't read my heart. You can not compare hanging demonic pictures on the wall to stretching/yoga. Lamaze is a form of controlled breathing while meditating I didn't call on any demonic spirit. I know my Father is still with me! I called upon Him just recently because I was having a coughing spell that I couldn't catch my breath and He immediately stopped my coughing! So much judgment from so called fellow believers on this forum that it is bizarre
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In the kindest yet direct way Party... I notice NO ONE has pointed a finger at you and "JUDGED YOU", the members here are having a topical DISCUSSION which involves both opinions and Applying the scriptures. Your post <above> is coming off as very vehement as if WE have diagnosed YOU PERSONALLY as BAD... and no one has. I suggest you might take a few minutes to consider that you are under "CONVICTION" of the HS for participating or practicing "faith" in a way that is not as pleasing to GOD as you previously (as in before this thread) believed???
 
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Mitspa

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Yeraza_Bats said:
Actually I really like it, I mean homosexuality is a sexual urge. We all deal with those urges, no matter what its pointed towards. And exercise is a great way to battle against urges. I strongly push the fact that we do not battle against the flesh, but we are tempted with these urges. And just like Christ spent 40 days in a desert, we can fight off urges by putting ourselves through training and discipline too.

Yeah, I mean put your faith in Christ first and all :p But Christ does allow things like fasting, Im sure Hed be totally okay with good exercise, too :p You can work your body without doing it in the name of false idols :p
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Had this been a thread that said exercise (stretching or whatever) was beneficial for our mind and body even in helping certain temptations...I think everybody would have agreed. But that not what was posted and so we have folks who disagree
 
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PartyOf3

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blondieindahouse said:
If the exercisers heart,mind and soul are focused on Christ;the indwelling spirit would warn and he would discern that something is not as it seems.
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i am referring to this
 
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PartyOf3

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and no i am not under conviction to praising the one living GOD i stretch/yoga moves
 
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PartyOf3

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[h=2]Medical Definition of HATHA YOGA[/h]: a form of yoga emphasizing a system of physical postures for balancing, stretching, and strengthening the body

this is what i do
 
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PartyOf3

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1 corinthians 10
23“I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but not everything is constructive. 24 No one should seek their own good, but the good of others.
25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience,26 for, “The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it.”[f]
27 If an unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. 28 But if someone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it, both for the sake of the one who told you and for the sake of conscience. 29 I am referring to the other person’s conscience, not yours. For why is my freedom being judged by another’s conscience? 30 If I take part in the meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of something I thank God for?
31 So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. 32 Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God— 33 even as I try to please everyone in every way. For I am not seeking my own good but the good of many, so that they may be saved.

this is what i do, all for his glory. to stretch out my back and the rest of my old tired body, to be able to continue to stay in good health for my family, for my body temple, to be able to work and labor and be involved in my church.
 
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