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its what you do with your heart and mind, your focus, are you giving praise and glory to GOD or to someone else, are you spending more time on anything other than GOD?
its what you do with your heart and mind, your focus, are you giving praise and glory to GOD or to someone else, are you spending more time on anything other than GOD?
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It is the whole point of yoga. Yoga cannot be separated from the shame of India. Intentions mean nothing, even Hitler intended to create a utopia, but that's not what happened. Indeed people should steer clear of it.
Lol also that is a fairly famous French quote which roughly translated means "The more things change the more they stay the same".
Lol also that is a fairly famous French quote which roughly translated means "The more things change the more they stay the same".
I would agree that it obviously wont "cure" you of any temptation
But I do like the idea of teaching people ways to deal with temptation, in healthy and productive ways.I have heard from a friend that actually getting into the bible is also a good way to help with the urge. Have not tried that one yet, though
Should try.
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there are all kinds of yogas...many popular western variations of yoga have nothing at all to do with hindu yogas other than that they both involve stretches and breathing exercises...it fact even calling some of these western methods 'yoga' at all is questionable...
so it certainly isn't correct to claim that everything that goes by the name of 'yoga' is connected to hinduism...
however i really kind of doubt that yoga would be a 'cure' for homosexuality...but one thing christians -have- been using since ancient times to deal with lust and sexual sins is fasting...
so it certainly isn't correct to claim that everything that goes by the name of 'yoga' is connected to hinduism...
however i really kind of doubt that yoga would be a 'cure' for homosexuality...but one thing christians -have- been using since ancient times to deal with lust and sexual sins is fasting...
It would seem like, and you're right the Western yoga stuff is somewhat different than the original yogas, but at the same time the differences are only superficial. It cannot be separated from Hinduism, because it's origin and purpose is anchored in Hinduism.
Stretching or exercise is not yoga. If say I get up and stretch my arms upwards as the example given earlier. That is not yoga, I 'm stretching to stretch. Even within the concept of yoga the physical stretches are of themselves not yoga, they are done for yoga or for the intent to achieve what they consider results of yoga. In this case it makes the Western variants all that more deceptive and evil in my opinion, for they introduce their shallow sorceries by guile, but then their rewards and reasons are just as petty, being often for money.
Also I want to make clear I don't hate any of ya'll for something so vain as yoga, much less anything. I like all ya'll and everyone I have talked on CC with, even those that frankly hate me. I don't judge any of you, I like all ya'll a lot more than you might realize, but I judge yoga it is no good for us, you or me. If you need to stretch, then stretch, but you do not need it to do yoga, and you don't need yoga to exercise. Yoga is just as it's word means, it's a yoke, a worthless yoke at that. For what profit is there if you always have to attribute your own right actions to yoga? Yea, yoga itself and the system it is inextricably tied to profits in enslaving more people, but the people profit nothing of it, but rather are robbed of their own credit.
Stretching or exercise is not yoga. If say I get up and stretch my arms upwards as the example given earlier. That is not yoga, I 'm stretching to stretch. Even within the concept of yoga the physical stretches are of themselves not yoga, they are done for yoga or for the intent to achieve what they consider results of yoga. In this case it makes the Western variants all that more deceptive and evil in my opinion, for they introduce their shallow sorceries by guile, but then their rewards and reasons are just as petty, being often for money.
Also I want to make clear I don't hate any of ya'll for something so vain as yoga, much less anything. I like all ya'll and everyone I have talked on CC with, even those that frankly hate me. I don't judge any of you, I like all ya'll a lot more than you might realize, but I judge yoga it is no good for us, you or me. If you need to stretch, then stretch, but you do not need it to do yoga, and you don't need yoga to exercise. Yoga is just as it's word means, it's a yoke, a worthless yoke at that. For what profit is there if you always have to attribute your own right actions to yoga? Yea, yoga itself and the system it is inextricably tied to profits in enslaving more people, but the people profit nothing of it, but rather are robbed of their own credit.
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My "like" is not an agreement.
This reminds me of martial arts.
Also reminds me of evolution.
We could have some really interesting debates over the subject(s)...
but where's Jesus, in all of this?
Have you completely dismissed,
all that was said?
For what purpose? (You are too much in your head -- listen to your heart)
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[TD]finis coronat opus[/TD]
[TD]the end crowns the work[/TD]
[TD]The end justifies the means. Motto of St. Mary's Catholic High School in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, the Coat of arms of Seychelles, and of the Amin Investment Bank[/TD]
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This reminds me of martial arts.
Also reminds me of evolution.
We could have some really interesting debates over the subject(s)...
but where's Jesus, in all of this?
Have you completely dismissed,
all that was said?
For what purpose? (You are too much in your head -- listen to your heart)
P.S. -- [TABLE="class: wikitable"]
[TR]
[TD]finis coronat opus[/TD]
[TD]the end crowns the work[/TD]
[TD]The end justifies the means. Motto of St. Mary's Catholic High School in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, the Coat of arms of Seychelles, and of the Amin Investment Bank[/TD]
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"End justifies the means/modes" would be translated "Finis iustificat modus" I think.
Martial arts and Darwinism is also no good either, but are fraught with lies and anchored in error if that's what you were meaning. You can exercise without doing eastern sorcery. Or you can study science without believing in the lies of darwinism or old earth mythology, which of themselves are not even really science.
I have heard all you have said, but it cannot be dismissed the fact yoga is inextricably bound to hinduism and the Shame of India. I know it's a natural first reaction is to try to think of a way to excuse or to Christianize such things when one does not truly understand what it is or where it came from. That would be my first reaction too, but I know what yoga is and there's no way possible to separate yoga from hinduism.
Yoga by it's very own concept is not the means, it is the ends. The exercises and diets and chants and mantras associated with it are not yoga in and of itself. They are the means to the end of yoga. The point of yoga is just as the word implies, which literally means to yoke, with implication of yoking the person to the Shame of India which they purport created this practice for just that very purpose. This cannot be dismissed because it is even the whole point of yoga. It is even the meaning of the word itself.
If you are caught up in the trap of yoga, break it's worthless yoke and leave it to rot in the dust. There's no condemnation against anyone if they are all ready ensnared by it and chose to leave it behind, but rather a blessing, for Jesus can help you break those chains. As the Bible says the yoke of Jesus is light. If you being free in Jesus can all ready do exercise, can eat what you want, and can think and ponder (true meaning of meditation); what point then is there to unnecessarily be bound to the worthless yoke of the hindu?
Martial arts and Darwinism is also no good either, but are fraught with lies and anchored in error if that's what you were meaning. You can exercise without doing eastern sorcery. Or you can study science without believing in the lies of darwinism or old earth mythology, which of themselves are not even really science.
I have heard all you have said, but it cannot be dismissed the fact yoga is inextricably bound to hinduism and the Shame of India. I know it's a natural first reaction is to try to think of a way to excuse or to Christianize such things when one does not truly understand what it is or where it came from. That would be my first reaction too, but I know what yoga is and there's no way possible to separate yoga from hinduism.
Yoga by it's very own concept is not the means, it is the ends. The exercises and diets and chants and mantras associated with it are not yoga in and of itself. They are the means to the end of yoga. The point of yoga is just as the word implies, which literally means to yoke, with implication of yoking the person to the Shame of India which they purport created this practice for just that very purpose. This cannot be dismissed because it is even the whole point of yoga. It is even the meaning of the word itself.
If you are caught up in the trap of yoga, break it's worthless yoke and leave it to rot in the dust. There's no condemnation against anyone if they are all ready ensnared by it and chose to leave it behind, but rather a blessing, for Jesus can help you break those chains. As the Bible says the yoke of Jesus is light. If you being free in Jesus can all ready do exercise, can eat what you want, and can think and ponder (true meaning of meditation); what point then is there to unnecessarily be bound to the worthless yoke of the hindu?
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I /have/ heard that its actually great with things like back pain, actually
