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Followers increase because of the offer of 72 virgins (or grapes, don't really care) in heaven and other deceitful offers that are giving men much more value than women (since muhammad needed army, so he was offering men much higher position).
LOL under limits? Sura 9 is the second last chapter, which of surah 9 that you don't understand? or you interpret the quran yourself without consulting the tafsir? I see then if that's the case
LOL under limits? Sura 9 is the second last chapter, which of surah 9 that you don't understand? or you interpret the quran yourself without consulting the tafsir? I see then if that's the case
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Hi see my post above. I am fasting this month so I am not my normal energetic self. 
Jesus said praying or fasting or giving to the church, don't let anybody know.
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the pagans, in my opinion, just as other people, had every right to question muhammad. since he made no miracle at all, especially.
I didn't know though that if they persecuted him, but even if there are persecution, they don't fight (literally fight to kill), like muhammad did after the madina hijra'
I didn't know though that if they persecuted him, but even if there are persecution, they don't fight (literally fight to kill), like muhammad did after the madina hijra'
Another one of the verses that athiests and christian sites like to take out of context.
The cherry pickers seem to leave this verse out.
5:58) O ye who believe! take not those for friends who make a jest and sport of your religion from among those who were given the Book before you, and the disbelievers. And fear Allah if you are believers
Don't befriend those of the people of the book who make fun of your religion.
but if the emnity ceases.
[60:8] It may be that Allah will bring about love between you and those of them with whom you are now at enmity; and Allah is All-Powerful; and Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.
I suggest if you want to learn about Islam you should do it at an Islamic site.
The cherry pickers seem to leave this verse out.
5:58) O ye who believe! take not those for friends who make a jest and sport of your religion from among those who were given the Book before you, and the disbelievers. And fear Allah if you are believers
Don't befriend those of the people of the book who make fun of your religion.
but if the emnity ceases.
[60:8] It may be that Allah will bring about love between you and those of them with whom you are now at enmity; and Allah is All-Powerful; and Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.
I suggest if you want to learn about Islam you should do it at an Islamic site.
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LOL I learned Islam from Islamic website. Let's see if you studied the tafsir. As I said Islam won't accept my interpretation, nor yours.
This is the tafsir of Ibn Abbas, one of greatest early scholars of Islam, he is the cousin of muhammad himself.
(O ye who believe!) in Muhammad and the Qur'an. (Take not the Jews and Christians for friends) seeking their assistance and help. (They are friends one to another) He says: some are followers of the religion of others in secret and in the open, just as they are friends of each other. (He among you) O group of believers (who taketh them for friends) seeking their assistance and help (is (one) of them) in alliance and is not included in Allah's protection and safety. (Lo! Allah guideth not) to His religion and proof (wrong-doing folk) the Jews and Christians.
Altafsir.com - The Tafsirs - التفاسير
Tafsir of sura 5:51
This is the tafsir of Ibn Abbas, one of greatest early scholars of Islam, he is the cousin of muhammad himself.
(O ye who believe!) in Muhammad and the Qur'an. (Take not the Jews and Christians for friends) seeking their assistance and help. (They are friends one to another) He says: some are followers of the religion of others in secret and in the open, just as they are friends of each other. (He among you) O group of believers (who taketh them for friends) seeking their assistance and help (is (one) of them) in alliance and is not included in Allah's protection and safety. (Lo! Allah guideth not) to His religion and proof (wrong-doing folk) the Jews and Christians.
Altafsir.com - The Tafsirs - التفاسير
Tafsir of sura 5:51
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The most important struggle that a muslim should do, is jihad fisabilillah. Allah himself said he favors those who do jihad then those who only sits back at home (Sura 4 aya 95).
I'll give you some other sura and aya, and you can see yourself the tafsir of the scholars of the website i mentioned before. or any other tafsir of great scholars, you can choose; so that you won't accuse me of cherry picking. because it's there in various chapters.
2:216
2:190-193
4:74
4:76
4:94
4:100
Sura 8 and Sura 9
25:52
29:69
47:4
47:33
48:16
49:15
60:1
61:4
66:9
and other tons of references from sahih hadith and sira. but for now let's read from the quran firstly, word of allah himself.
I'll give you some other sura and aya, and you can see yourself the tafsir of the scholars of the website i mentioned before. or any other tafsir of great scholars, you can choose; so that you won't accuse me of cherry picking. because it's there in various chapters.
2:216
2:190-193
4:74
4:76
4:94
4:100
Sura 8 and Sura 9
25:52
29:69
47:4
47:33
48:16
49:15
60:1
61:4
66:9
and other tons of references from sahih hadith and sira. but for now let's read from the quran firstly, word of allah himself.
Of course what the tasfir is correct. If you look at the tafsir it is speaking about alliances. In the time of the prophet, people would seek alliance from other tribes for protection. While under that persons protection if something would happen to him, the whole tribe would seek revenge for the death. It was a powerful protection. God was telling Muhammad pbuh that you now seek protection from God or other Muslims not from unbelievers.
This Tafsir was originally narrated in Arabic. The person who translated this Taafsir to English chose to use the word friends for the Arabic word awliyaa. Allies is another translation that could have been used.
This Tafsir was originally narrated in Arabic. The person who translated this Taafsir to English chose to use the word friends for the Arabic word awliyaa. Allies is another translation that could have been used.
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Good then. Do you speak arabic?
I think most of the quran translators, translate awliya as friends.
Let's see tafsir of another verse, then.
Altafsir.com - The Tafsirs - التفاسير
now that can't mean allies for protection, i believe. also this verse teaches (based on what ibn abbas said) that you can take them as friends only if you guard or save yourselves from them by speaking in a friendly way, while your heart dislikes this.
So being hypocrite and liar is not a sin, as long as you are guarding or saving yourselves. This is why if you remember my post earlier, I said It's haram in the first place to make friends (sincerely) with unbelievers.
I think most of the quran translators, translate awliya as friends.
Let's see tafsir of another verse, then.
Altafsir.com - The Tafsirs - التفاسير
now that can't mean allies for protection, i believe. also this verse teaches (based on what ibn abbas said) that you can take them as friends only if you guard or save yourselves from them by speaking in a friendly way, while your heart dislikes this.
So being hypocrite and liar is not a sin, as long as you are guarding or saving yourselves. This is why if you remember my post earlier, I said It's haram in the first place to make friends (sincerely) with unbelievers.
Hi L
We just need to look in the bible to see that the English translators sometimes do not do a thorough job.
And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba.
Genesis 21:14
Considering Ishmael at that time was a teenager, the text refers to Ishmael as a child. Hagar would have been very strong to carry a teenager on her shoulder. Is this a translation error or did this happen ? It was not until last century that text was changed to remove the reference to child and so that Ishmael was not put onto the shoulder of Hagar.
I have been studying Arabic for the last two years. Still have a way to go. Arabic words can have two meanings. If Abaas is speaking about Alliances and one possible meaning of awliya is Allies. Don't take much to join the dots. In the end you can choose to believe what you want to believe.
We just need to look in the bible to see that the English translators sometimes do not do a thorough job.
And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba.
Genesis 21:14
Considering Ishmael at that time was a teenager, the text refers to Ishmael as a child. Hagar would have been very strong to carry a teenager on her shoulder. Is this a translation error or did this happen ? It was not until last century that text was changed to remove the reference to child and so that Ishmael was not put onto the shoulder of Hagar.
I have been studying Arabic for the last two years. Still have a way to go. Arabic words can have two meanings. If Abaas is speaking about Alliances and one possible meaning of awliya is Allies. Don't take much to join the dots. In the end you can choose to believe what you want to believe.
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