Christians being murdered and driven out by extremist Muslims in the Middle East

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leonardronaldo

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Drett said:
Hi L

We just need to look in the bible to see that the English translators sometimes do not do a thorough job.

And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba.
Genesis 21:14

Considering Ishmael at that time was a teenager, the text refers to Ishmael as a child. Hagar would have been very strong to carry a teenager on her shoulder. Is this a translation error or did this happen ? It was not until last century that text was changed to remove the reference to child and so that Ishmael was not put onto the shoulder of Hagar.

I have been studying Arabic for the last two years. Still have a way to go. Arabic words can have two meanings. If Abaas is speaking about Alliances and one possible meaning of awliya is Allies. Don't take much to join the dots. In the end you can choose to believe what you want to believe. :)
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So awliyaa allah means allies of allah? so allah have allies? lol ok i'll give that matters to the Arabic speaking people here.
Now, I want to ask if you can please explain why allah allows you to be hypocrite? and liar? As I gave you the link of the tafsir.
 
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Drett

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leonardronaldo said:
So awliyaa allah means allies of allah? so allah have allies? lol ok i'll give that matters to the Arabic speaking people here.
Now, I want to ask if you can please explain why allah allows you to be hypocrite? and liar? As I gave you the link of the tafsir.
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As I stated previously. It can have two meanings depending on the context of the passage. I see you are getting more rude as time goes on.
 
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leonardronaldo

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Drett said:
As I stated previously. It can have two meanings depending on the context of the passage. I see you are getting more rude as time goes on.
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I'm getting more rude? Is it because I criticize (expose) Islam? lol
 
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leonardronaldo

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Drett said:
Calling someone a liar and a hypocrite in a short debate because they don't agree with you is rude. I think I have spent enough time with you.

Some recommended reading.

Manners & Etiquette | Christian Assemblies International
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Drett you must have misread my post.
I never called you a liar nor a hypocrite.
Please read again my question, very carefully.
Why allah in sura 3:28, as i posted the link to the tafsir, allows muslims to be hypocrite and liar?
I didn't say you are a hypocrite and liar.
 
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leonardronaldo

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speaking about manner and etiquette, let's see what allah says about those things toward Christians:
sura 3
61 "If anyone disputes with you about Jesus being divine,flee them and pray that Allah willcurse them."

5:14 "From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We made a covenant, but they forgot and abandoned a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, stirred up enmity and hatred among them to the Day of Doom. Soon will Allah show them the handiwork they have done."

9:30"The Jews call Uzair the son of Allah, and the Christians say that theMessiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying from their mouths; they but imitate what theunbelievers [kafaroo] of old used to say. Allah's (Himself) fights against them, cursing them, damning and destroying them. How perverse are they!"
 
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