Hillary's finished: Hands over private server, contains 'top secret' documents

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Clinton turns over private server to Justice Dept. amid report it contained 'top secret' emails

Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton announced Tuesday that she had directed her aides to turn over her personal e-mail server to the Justice Department, giving in to months of demands that she relinquish the device she used to store her correspondence while secretary of state.

The move came hours after it was disclosed that the inspector general for the intelligence community, I. Charles McCullough III, had notified senior members of Congress that two of four retroactively classified emails found on Clinton's server contained material deemed to be more sensitive than had previously been thought.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, said two emails that traversed Clinton's personal system were deemed "Top Secret, Sensitive Compartmented Information" — a rating that is among the government's highest classifications. Grassley said McCullough had reported the new details about the higher classification to Congress on Tuesday.
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"Email-gate" is no longer a political scandal. The fact that "Top Secret" documents are confirmed to be on her server makes it a criminal matter. FBI agents now have the server and are undoubtedly combing through its hard drive to recover those 33,000 deleted emails she eliminated prior to releasing hardcopies of the documents last year.

I don't believe my title for this thread is over the top at all. She is guilty -- that's already confirmed -- of possessing documents that, if made public, would bring "grave harm" (the exact wording of the national security laws) to the nation. That's a felony, punishable by 10 years to life in prison.

Hillary's done. Toast. Cooked goose. But she's not going to admit it until they come to haul her off in handcuffs.
 
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Handcuffs? She has wayyyyy too much money for that ;) I'd pay a very large sum to see it happen though haha.
 
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I hope so but they'll probably throw one of her underlings under the bus.
 
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Right! She'll be on the ballet in November 2016, if that is the plan. This will be gone in a matter of months, and forgotten by then.
 
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Right! She'll be on the ballet in November 2016, if that is the plan. This will be gone in a matter of months, and forgotten by then.
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National security issues don't "just go away," Willie. Political scandals, yes. The IRS scandal, NSA, Fast & Furious, also rise to the level of criminal behavior, but they easily stick underlings with those crimes -- maybe they will, someday, anyway.

But national security is taken seriously at the FBI, and it doesn't matter who is suspect. Also, though I haven't seen much to praise Loretta Lynch for thus far, she is not anywhere near the political animal Holder was, and there won't be any "stepping in" on her part to shield Clinton.

Maybe Hillary won't be carted off in an FBI SUV with grill and tail lights strobing, but she will be forced out of the race at the very least. She's out of excuses. You can't make national security "just go away."
 
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National security issues don't "just go away," Willie. Political scandals, yes. The IRS scandal, NSA, Fast & Furious, also rise to the level of criminal behavior, but they easily stick underlings with those crimes -- maybe they will, someday, anyway.

But national security is taken seriously at the FBI, and it doesn't matter who is suspect. Also, though I haven't seen much to praise Loretta Lynch for thus far, she is not anywhere near the political animal Holder was, and there won't be any "stepping in" on her part to shield Clinton.

Maybe Hillary won't be carted off in an FBI SUV with grill and tail lights strobing, but she will be forced out of the race at the very least. She's out of excuses. You can't make national security "just go away."
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Before you say too much (computer screens are hard to eat), just sit back and watch.
 
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Been thinking for awhile that obama will get his 3rd term, when his wife gets in the race. Hope i'm wrong. Lord help us!
 
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I think so to, even though what is done, beyond a reasonable doubt, is a felony, there will be no grand jury, no indictment and most certainly no conviction...everything is possible if you have friends in high places.
 
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Been thinking for awhile that obama will get his 3rd term, when his wife gets in the race. Hope i'm wrong. Lord help us!
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I, personally, think he will deliberately get us in a true state of war just before election time (if he can) so that he can stay in office.
 
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National security issues don't "just go away," Willie. Political scandals, yes. The IRS scandal, NSA, Fast & Furious, also rise to the level of criminal behavior, but they easily stick underlings with those crimes -- maybe they will, someday, anyway.

But national security is taken seriously at the FBI, and it doesn't matter who is suspect. Also, though I haven't seen much to praise Loretta Lynch for thus far, she is not anywhere near the political animal Holder was, and there won't be any "stepping in" on her part to shield Clinton.

Maybe Hillary won't be carted off in an FBI SUV with grill and tail lights strobing, but she will be forced out of the race at the very least. She's out of excuses. You can't make national security "just go away."
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man, that would be nice, but as others have said, believe it when I see it. remember, she has the huge, massive leftist media machine backing her.
 
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She has had too much power, so I doubt that any true justice would happen as the result, as much as I'd wish for it to. But if people are actually opening their eyes instead of being fed by the masses then they'll have better judgment based on the events that have been going on as of lately. I don't know which to rely more so on, to be completely honest...
 
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man, that would be nice, but as others have said, believe it when I see it. remember, she has the huge, massive leftist media machine backing her.
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There is a limit to what they can do. She likely exposed national intelligence secrets to Russia, who most likely hacked her server because it wasn't heavily incrypted like State's is, which would have protected her emails and the Top Secret documents she stored on her computer.

CNN, Time, MSNBC, and other liberal outlets are reporting the same facts as Fox News, that documents classified as "Top Secret, Sensitive Compartmented Information" are known to be on her server, and further state, as did Fox, that this will likely result in a criminal investigation.

Just the fact she is facing a criminal investigation is not good for her campaign, and this morning Bernie Sanders burst on top of overnight New Hampshire primary polls, leading by six percent. Even the Democrats don't want her.
 
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Its hard for me to imagine how much pressure she's been under for her to surrender like she has. Goes to show, oboy hates her with a passion.
 
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Its hard for me to imagine how much pressure she's been under for her to surrender like she has. Goes to show, oboy hates her with a passion.
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There's no help there, and Lynch isn't a fawning liberal sycophant like Holder was. She won't bat an eye at sinking DOJ's teeth into Clinton's political hiney.

By the way, this "voluntary" surrender of the server is anything but. It had reached the point that Gowdy's committee and the FBI had both said, "You can either give it to us, or we'll get a warrant." Think how that would play on national TV?
 
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I wonder if bill is behind all of this. If I were him I'd do anything to get away from her...up to and including dying from a self inflicted gun shot would. Of course that would be a last resort. Bill is missing out on a great opportunity here if he doesn't act fast.
 
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Read this story yesterday. As another story details those e-mails were not classified at the time. This leaves Hillary a convenient excuse and will let her off the hook. Technically the fault be on Obama since he has the ultimate responsibility for the State Department, but I think we all know they will never bring ought against Obama. So they'll blame the system, use that as an example to get reform, and that will be that.

Kinda disappointed that Hillary didn't stick to her original plan and just release these all to the public. Not happy with the GOP either for wasting time on petty politics, knowing they won't actually be able to do anything to Hillary. On top of that the GOP basically just obstructed a stellar chance to get for We the People one of the biggest treasure troves of secret government documents ever.
 
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Viligant_Warrior said:
"Email-gate" is no longer a political scandal. The fact that "Top Secret" documents are confirmed to be on her server makes it a criminal matter. FBI agents now have the server and are undoubtedly combing through its hard drive to recover those 33,000 deleted emails she eliminated prior to releasing hardcopies of the documents last year.

I don't believe my title for this thread is over the top at all. She is guilty -- that's already confirmed -- of possessing documents that, if made public, would bring "grave harm" (the exact wording of the national security laws) to the nation. That's a felony, punishable by 10 years to life in prison.

Hillary's done. Toast. Cooked goose. But she's not going to admit it until they come to haul her off in handcuffs.
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oh, just admit it, it all depends on what admit is :p
 
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How do we know her hard drive wasn't scrubbed clean?
 
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How do we know her hard drive wasn't scrubbed clean?
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I'd imagine they'd be able to tell somehow, or make it up, who knows? Lol this has made me muse for a while sticking Rand Paul with a hard question on his stance on privacy and the 4th and 5th Amendment. Paul is seen as the champion of computer privacy enthusiasts, but alas here we have an actual case where they be confiscating a private citizen named Hillary Clinton's stuff outright. Would Paul defend Hillary's right to not hand it over and to even publish it or would he cave to the bluster of the mainstream GOP?

The GOP make so many mistakes in their blind hatred of Hillary. It would have been better to pressure her to live up to her word and publicize them all. Could the Hillary archive show some flaws to the Obama Administration? Is it because it might show flaws in the GOP controlled parts of Congress that the establishment GOPers wanted to give them to the government? Lol these be potentially more massive and key than the Wikileaks stuff. But too late now the government just got their hands on it you know that's about to get scrubbed.
 
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Viligant_Warrior said:
"Email-gate" is no longer a political scandal. The fact that "Top Secret" documents are confirmed to be on her server makes it a criminal matter. FBI agents now have the server and are undoubtedly combing through its hard drive to recover those 33,000 deleted emails she eliminated prior to releasing hardcopies of the documents last year.

I don't believe my title for this thread is over the top at all. She is guilty -- that's already confirmed -- of possessing documents that, if made public, would bring "grave harm" (the exact wording of the national security laws) to the nation. That's a felony, punishable by 10 years to life in prison.

Hillary's done. Toast. Cooked goose. But she's not going to admit it until they come to haul her off in handcuffs.
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If only that were true!!! You know the media will give her a pass and even make up excuses for her.
 
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