San Bernardino shooting: Statistics behind US gun violence

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You mean like in Romans 13 ..where God makes it very clear that the sword of justice used to punish evildoers is His evident will...how He calls this justice for our "good"? You understand that God is not into this left-wing nonsense your promote on this forum...don't you?
why would he give the sword of justice to the living. when he controls death.

may be that gun, you own, can save you from death.


and why was that gun not at paris, to protect people that dont have a gun.
if you protect justice.

ask you dad that pumpkin.
 
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You missed the point entirely. You said " ponder living without a gun" I said 14 people died because there was no one armed to protect them. They're dead because of your kind of thinking. That was the point.Not that you live without a gun.
and ware was your protection, you claim to own a gun. you could have saved 14 people.

i know could not resist.
 

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and ware was your protection, you claim to own a gun. you could have saved 14 people.

i know could not resist.
That's your best response? How sad.
 
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why would he give the sword of justice to the living. when he controls death.

may be that gun, you own, can save you from death.


and why was that gun not at paris, to protect people that dont have a gun.
if you protect justice.

ask you dad that pumpkin.
Read the bible..but that's like saying why would God feed or shelter people ...protecting people is a basic provision for all people. The French out lawed guns, now they are at the mercy of these monsters...they only thing that stopped them last time was they ran out of bullets. Europe is history..it will never be restored and a big part of that is because it has been disarmed.
 
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make up your mind, when did i kill 14 people.
and if they all have free will, what do you want me to do about it.

again,would only show, you (and others) you have, no intent to add to this forum topic.

guess i am correct again. and you just proved for me. thanks.

Dude,I never said you killed anyone.I said your type of thinking does. People are adding,you just dont want to listen because it doesnt suit you. You proved you cant and dont want to listen to common sense.
 
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Read the bible..but that's like saying why would God feed or shelter people ...protecting people is a basic provision for all people. The French out lawed guns, now they are at the mercy of these monsters...they only thing that stopped them last time was they ran out of bullets. Europe is history..it will never be restored and a big part of that is because it has been disarmed.
back to the an opinion on god, and your take on guns. i am still waiting for the answer to when, did god give out guns.
until you add or bring proof to your opinion, then this speculation. free speech, is one thing. talking rubbish is why your already been told, ie opinion vary.
 
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Dude,I never said you killed anyone.I said your type of thinking does. People are adding,you just dont want to listen because it doesnt suit you. You proved you cant and dont want to listen to common sense.
you implied, what suits your opinion, with no proof, (To) when can you prove, all people, think the same as you.

so the subject topic, is now void, in your opinion. and was told to you before. yet here you are, telling unarmed people to get a gun,(or implying that with you common sense) like the usa . common sense would not need to print rubbish like that, if they knew the law of the land, that said ,you cant have a gun. (uk)
 
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you implied, what suits your opinion, with no proof, (To) when can you prove, all people, think the same as you.

so the subject topic, is now void, in your opinion. and was told to you before. yet here you are, telling unarmed people to get a gun,(or implying that with you common sense) like the usa . common sense would not need to print rubbish like that, if they knew the law of the land, that said ,you cant have a gun. (uk)
Except now Europeans are buying guns on the back market to defend themselves. Gun laws make good people into criminals and do nothing to take them out of the hands of real criminals. Is Paris a gun free zone? Are there anti gun laws in Paris? What good did they do?
 
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Except now Europeans are buying guns on the back market to defend themselves. Gun laws make good people into criminals and do nothing to take them out of the hands of real criminals. Is Paris a gun free zone? Are there anti gun laws in Paris? What good did they do?
sorry, what makes your stand, any different to the muslims stand.

who are also, trying to mix politics and religion, for justification to why they use a firearm.

yet this is a christian web site , that uses the good book(the bible) as proof to there being a god.

yet like the muslim , you also have an opinion. so in short, what makes your opinion any different, from the muslims stand.(who also believes in god)

if you cant prove from, the christian good book, justification. ie when did god give out guns. v reason to have a gun for protection.

so ware, is the need for faith in gods protection. if your going back to human logic ie not trusting in gods protection.
 
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That's your best response? How sad.
how sad, the only thing you can think of is this. good to know opinion only reflect once side to that post, but is ok to blame a way of thinking for this happening.(14 people killed) how sad, you sat back and let me answer that. thanks for you imput.
 
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sorry, what makes your stand, any different to the muslims stand.

who are also, trying to mix politics and religion, for justification to why they use a firearm.

yet this is a christian web site , that uses the good book(the bible) as proof to there being a god.

yet like the muslim , you also have an opinion. so in short, what makes your opinion any different, from the muslims stand.(who also believes in god)

if you cant prove from, the christian good book, justification. ie when did god give out guns. v reason to have a gun for protection.

so ware, is the need for faith in gods protection. if your going back to human logic ie not trusting in gods protection.
If you cant understand the difference between attacking people to murder and rape..and defending from murder and rape, then I suggest that you have no business trying to discuss this issue. The concept of defending oneself and ones loved ones is understood in every culture in every nation upon the earth. It is a clear biblical concept as well.
 

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sorry, what makes your stand, any different to the muslims stand.

who are also, trying to mix politics and religion, for justification to why they use a firearm.

yet this is a christian web site , that uses the good book(the bible) as proof to there being a god.

yet like the muslim , you also have an opinion. so in short, what makes your opinion any different, from the muslims stand.(who also believes in god)

if you cant prove from, the christian good book, justification. ie when did god give out guns. v reason to have a gun for protection.

so ware, is the need for faith in gods protection. if your going back to human logic ie not trusting in gods protection.
You have been shown scripture about the issue on guns every time you create a thread about it. You refuse to pay attention because it is a threat to your own view. You are a broken record. You don't like guns. That is fine. You don't like American politics. That is fine too, but the constant threads about the same subject over and over again is getting old.
 

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If you cant understand the difference between attacking people to murder and rape..and defending from murder and rape, then I suggest that you have no business trying to discuss this issue. The concept of defending oneself and ones loved ones is understood in every culture in every nation upon the earth. It is a clear biblical concept as well.
There is a reason why I refer to Deborah (my AR-15) as a defense rifle and not an assault rifle.
 

Dude653

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I break into your house, you grab your AR 15 and shoot me....the bullet goes through me, through the wall and into a child riding his bicycle across the street....a 12 guage is more appropriate for home defense
 
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I break into your house, you grab your AR 15 and shoot me....the bullet goes through me, through the wall and into a child riding his bicycle across the street....a 12 guage is more appropriate for home defense
A passenger jet drops a giant icee block of turds from 30k ft.... it hits little johnny riding his bike on the street. About the same odds as your scenario.
 
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and ware was your protection, you claim to own a gun. you could have saved 14 people.

i know could not resist.

Ummmm I live thousands of miles from CA .And I dont have wings sooooo...
 

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A passenger jet drops a giant icee block of turds from 30k ft.... it hits little johnny riding his bike on the street. About the same odds as your scenario.
You under estimate the potential of large calibre weapons.
 

Dude653

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You underestimate the power of giant blocks of frozen blue poop.
the difference set my scenario is plausible and yours is not.....flesh offers very little resistance to high velocity bullets, so does a sheet rock wall. An ak 47 will penetrate kevlar like tissue paper
 
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Maybe if we just pass a law against dying all will be well.