San Bernardino shooting: Statistics behind US gun violence

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Or a law against trolling
Seriously man...I wanna tell you to grow a set. People disagree all the time. My disagreeing with you doesn't make you any less human than me and your perception of me doesn't make me any less human than you.
 

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Seriously man...I wanna tell you to grow a set. People disagree all the time. My disagreeing with you doesn't make you any less human than me and your perception of me doesn't make me any less human than you.
Only you haven't said anything constructive or added anything useful to the conversation. Your witty sarcastic replies are of no substance.
 
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Only you haven't said anything constructive or added anything useful to the conversation. Your witty sarcastic replies are of no substance.
How else can you respond to progressive talking points than with witty sarcastic comments? I don't intend to change your mind. It'd be like convincing a jehova witness to accept Christ.
 

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How else can you respond to progressive talking points than with witty sarcastic comments? I don't intend to change your mind. It'd be like convincing a jehova witness to accept Christ.
Ahhhh...more vague rhetoric.funny how people call you a progressive or a liberal when you simply advocate little bit of common sense with firearms.
 
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Ahhhh...more vague rhetoric.funny how people call you a progressive or a liberal when you simply advocate little bit of common sense with firearms.
Except that your "common" sense lacks any good sense in the sense that disarming law abiding Americans won't cause criminals to negotiate their criminal activity. Lol
 

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Except that your "common" sense lacks any good sense in the sense that disarming law abiding Americans won't cause criminals to negotiate their criminal activity. Lol
you're putting words in my mouth. I never said anything about anyone being disarmed. I just think people should use a little common sense with firearms...the right to bear arms doesn't mean turning America into the wild west again
 

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Except that your "common" sense lacks any good sense in the sense that disarming law abiding Americans won't cause criminals to negotiate their criminal activity. Lol
you are putting words in my mouth. I never said anything about disarming anyone. I simply stated that we should have a little bit of common sense when it comes to firearms. the right to bear arms does not mean the right to turn America into the wild west again. you can't just run around like Rambo and expect to have no collateral damage
 
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you are putting words in my mouth. I never said anything about disarming anyone. I simply stated that we should have a little bit of common sense when it comes to firearms. the right to bear arms does not mean the right to turn America into the wild west again. you can't just run around like Rambo and expect to have no collateral damage
The places where they have outlawed guns have turned into the wild wild west...the places where folks have more legal guns have seen a drop in violent crime... so more legal guns is the answer ..not more gun control
 

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The places where they have outlawed guns have turned into the wild wild west...the places where folks have more legal guns have seen a drop in violent crime... so more legal guns is the answer ..not more gun control
who said anything about outlawing guns though? all I'm saying is using a little bit of common sense when you do use firearms. guns don't work like they do in the movies.......another scenario......I mug you in the grocery store parking so you pull out your pistol and shoot me with it. once again, the bullet travels through my body and into an old lady coming out of the store with her groceries. like it or not this is a very real possibility. I also believe the right to carry firearms should only come with the extensive training and rigorous background checks. anyone who doesn't believe this is reasonable is incredibly irresponsible
 
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you are putting words in my mouth. I never said anything about disarming anyone. I simply stated that we should have a little bit of common sense when it comes to firearms. the right to bear arms does not mean the right to turn America into the wild west again. you can't just run around like Rambo and expect to have no collateral damage
You want to control what kind of firearms Americans keep in their homes with your ingrained buzz words and heart string tugging nonsense.
 

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You want to control what kind of firearms Americans keep in their homes with your ingrained buzz words and heart string tugging nonsense.
do you really need an assault rifle for home defense when a 12 gauge would get the job done with even more efficiency?.....you have the right to defend your own home but you don't have the right to put others in harm's way which is what you are doing when you go all rambo with an assault rifle.....again, I break into your home, you grab your ak47 and open up full auto. the bullets passed through my body and through the wall and into your sleeping neighbor. now you're going to jail for involuntary manslaughter
 
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do you really need an assault rifle for home defense when a 12 gauge would get the job done with even more efficiency?.....you have the right to defend your own home but you don't have the right to put others in harm's way which is what you are doing when you go all rambo with an assault rifle.....again, I break into your home, you grab your ak47 and open up full auto. the bullets passed through my body and through the wall and into your sleeping neighbor. now you're going to jail for involuntary manslaughter
there you go with your words designed to manipulate. It's none of your business what kinds of firearms I enjoy. Your logic is flawed. More people die in auto accidents.
 
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who said anything about outlawing guns though? all I'm saying is using a little bit of common sense when you do use firearms. guns don't work like they do in the movies.......another scenario......I mug you in the grocery store parking so you pull out your pistol and shoot me with it. once again, the bullet travels through my body and into an old lady coming out of the store with her groceries. like it or not this is a very real possibility. I also believe the right to carry firearms should only come with the extensive training and rigorous background checks. anyone who doesn't believe this is reasonable is incredibly irresponsible
Well the fact is that our society becomes safer when more honest folks have guns ... and the argument that someone might someday get hurt is not a reason to limits others rights...we could outlawed almost everything under that standard ... As far as your thoughts about what a "rigorous" background check means ? There is no evidence that those things work to take guns out of bad people hands. the bad guys always get guns...look at the places where they have these standards you are saying will help? The criminals have guns and the honest folks are left defenseless
 
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Well the fact is that our society becomes safer when more honest folks have guns ... and the argument that someone might someday get hurt is not a reason to limits others rights...we could outlawed almost everything under that standard ... As far as your thoughts about what a "rigorous" background check means ? There is no evidence that those things work to take guns out of bad people hands. the bad guys always get guns...look at the places where they have these standards you are saying will help? The criminals have guns and the honest folks are left defenseless


You're right. I read that the guy that shot so many at the theater in Colorado had planned on shooting at the airport but realized there was "too much security". And I believe it was the shooter at the church in S.Carolina had planned to attack a local school until he found out they were armed there.These people are stupid but they ain't dumb.
 

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Also if you pull that trigger, you better have a darn good reason or it's 25 to life. ...not to mention the fact that it gives the police more reasons to shoot us
 
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If you cant understand the difference between attacking people to murder and rape..and defending from murder and rape, then I suggest that you have no business trying to discuss this issue. The concept of defending oneself and ones loved ones is understood in every culture in every nation upon the earth. It is a clear biblical concept as well.
when you. understand who done(past and present and now)what, and all involved ,then come back with ,gods plan, not a human plan. acting on, what you can see,is only proof you, can understand the past. yet you quote the bible from the past. to prove the now. make up your mind. and jesus took up arms before death because he could, or because he was following mans understanding or gods. please vote now.(irony) spiritual. without truth, they cannot connect. etc(save you bloodline , mr and mrs opinion) when you will die alone. etc (the call for faith in who) mmm i wait for death, because i own gun.
when did god approve you as judge. etc ie he all ready covered his sheep with the blood of the lamb.