San Bernardino shooting: Statistics behind US gun violence

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when you. understand who done(past and present and now)what, and all involved ,then come back with ,gods plan, not a human plan. acting on, what you can see,is only proof you, can understand the past. yet you quote the bible from the past. to prove the now. make up your mind. and jesus took up arms before death because he could, or because he was following mans understanding or gods. please vote now.(irony) spiritual. without truth, they cannot connect. etc(save you bloodline , mr and mrs opinion) when you will die alone. etc (the call for faith in who) mmm i wait for death, because i own gun.
when did god approve you as judge. etc ie he all ready covered his sheep with the blood of the lamb.
When did you get the authority to determine another persons right to self determine?
 
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You have been shown scripture about the issue on guns every time you create a thread about it. You refuse to pay attention because it is a threat to your own view. You are a broken record. You don't like guns. That is fine. You don't like American politics. That is fine too, but the constant threads about the same subject over and over again is getting old.
show the scripture i quoted. ( and line it up with new covenant, not your opinion. ) i am in the uk, and wile your at it, prove usa was on the map in the scripture quoted. (again) rubbish, without proof.
every time i post a news topic you mean. when fools think your playing black jack,and say one thing and mean an other.
go s to show, you were deep in though when you posted this. ( please prove there was an usa , in the bible, when the bible went to print in or around 1500ad) if the usa was discovered around 1600 ad. go s to show again opinion vary. follower of all posts.
 
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The more guns in the hands of honest folks the less violent crime...that's the facts !
 
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The more guns in the hands of honest folks the less violent crime...that's the facts !
It is the facts. They cannot be disputed. People who refuse to be victims cannot be victimized.
 

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if you feel like you need an AK 47 to go to McDonalds then you might need some professional help. and the only people who stockpile weapons and ammunition are terrorists and conspiracy nuts
 
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if you feel like you need an AK 47 to go to McDonalds then you might need some professional help. and the only people who stockpile weapons and ammunition are terrorists and conspiracy nuts
Need firearms and plenty of ammunition to defend our freedom from enemies, both foreign and domestic ...just as the constitution explains ... A well armed group of citizens are the best guarantee of liberty...and if I like to shoot AK or M16s or whatever ...its nobody's business ... I also like to drive fast bikes and cars.... This is America :)
 
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The idea that someone might have power other than the government or some left-wing militant group is what bothers liberals ...they don't care about peoples lives..they don't care about blacks being killed in the hood ..they don't care about babies being slaughtered and sold for parts...they care only about themselves and the hate they have in their hearts for good and honest people.
 
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if you feel like you need an AK 47 to go to McDonalds then you might need some professional help. and the only people who stockpile weapons and ammunition are terrorists and conspiracy nuts

This is where you show your ignorance on the subject of firearms. There are different calibers for different purposes. Target shooting is a hoot with a 7.62 or 5.56 round...among other things. I person who packs heat aint gonna pack his sks you silly goose. He's gonna pack his 45 acp into McDonalds. Before you go spouting off about something you should at least have a grasp of the ins and outs of the subject at hand.
 

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It is interesting that Christ Marvels over the magnitude of the Centurion's faith, in Luke. {A Leader of the Roman Armies best 100 warriors.} He understands the difficulty with which humans struggle with faith- that we are visually oriented, seeing the physical first and the spiritual second. Indeed, with most, the physical is more real than the spiritual. Yet, the reality is that true power, glory, protection, and love are spiritual. These spiritual things are more real than the physical world that we see and hear. The spiritual Kingdom of God will last forever. It is in this view of things that I lay my faith in Jesus even unto death, in my real-time protection. For there is something else besides my right to protect myself involved. His right to give any right.

When there is distrust in Gods protection over us our faith in Him suffers a crippling blow. Fear, anxiety, and depression escalate, and the motivation to be personally secure and free from the hassles of coping intensifies. The "Fight or flight" mechanism kicks in. And as we look ahead instead of above Satan, then, flies in to have us take pause with Gods overwhelming power of protecting His children, and we, like that of the story with Adam and Eve are distracted from submitting to the most wonderful, lovable, giving, concerned, sensitive, and helpful personality in all creation--GOD. Can you imagine that? The Devil convinced them that God could not be trusted.

We need to ask ourselves with God present:

* Is God Sovereign over His creation?
* Is Jesus Christ the payment for my sins? And if He is, does the Father , then, who owns me have every right to use me as He pleases- even unto death?
* If through Him calling me to Himself; predestined to Eternal life, will He not also demonstrate His personal concern over His investment of a beloved relationship to His children by protecting them more preciously than the birds of the air?

I believe God has my back, and supernaturally so. I believe that if I were to die because I could not kill my opposer at the time, over simply fleeing the threat by some open door God would avail, I would see God face to face. God has not given me a right to anything outside of Himself. I believe in His protection. And I believe anything outside of Faith in Him is a crippling blow to the higher value of life.
 

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Need firearms and plenty of ammunition to defend our freedom from enemies, both foreign and domestic ...just as the constitution explains ... A well armed group of citizens are the best guarantee of liberty...and if I like to shoot AK or M16s or whatever ...its nobody's business ... I also like to drive fast bikes and cars.... This is America :)
I've seen pictures of guys walking with assault rifles......translation.
I am a narcissistic idiot who was too much of a coward to join the military and fight terrorists for real so I play soldier in the streets
 

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I would also like to add that there are various assault rifles they have enough penetration power to go through your intended target and into several others as well. if you feel it is okay to fire off these assault rifles in Walmart parking lot then I question your mental faculties.
 
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I've seen pictures of guys walking with assault rifles......translation.
I am a narcissistic idiot who was too much of a coward to join the military and fight terrorists for real so I play soldier in the streets
Well im not sure about those guys? But I already done my service and my fighting overseas ...as a citizen im here to defend the homeland and the freedoms here. Just like the constitution says I should do :)
 
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I would also like to add that there are various assault rifles they have enough penetration power to go through your intended target and into several others as well. if you feel it is okay to fire off these assault rifles in Walmart parking lot then I question your mental faculties.
I think the good folks who have the rifles are very safe ...you know that bullets go where they are aimed don't you?
 

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I think the good folks who have the rifles are very safe ...you know that bullets go where they are aimed don't you?
then you should know that the human body offers very little resistance to a high velocity bullet such as one from an AK 47.that bullet could quite easily pass through my body and continue forward into innocent bystanders.
 
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then you should know that the human body offers very little resistance to a high velocity bullet such as one from an AK 47.that bullet could quite easily pass through my body and continue forward into innocent bystanders.
Well have you noticed that when a gun battle starts that folks seem to find cover? Have you noticed the terrorist have ALREADY SHOT all the innocent people around them by the time someone with a gun gets there to stop them? Your point is just stupid
 

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Well have you noticed that when a gun battle starts that folks seem to find cover? Have you noticed the terrorist have ALREADY SHOT all the innocent people around them by the time someone with a gun gets there to stop them? Your point is just stupid
terrorist attacks are one thing but it's probably not a good idea to open up with an ak-47 because I tried to steal your wallet in Walmart parking lot
 
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terrorist attacks are one thing but it's probably not a good idea to open up with an ak-47 because I tried to steal your wallet in Walmart parking lot
Well I don't think that the reason folks buy these type of firearms? Probably just pepper spray you.
 

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I'm just saying. let's be a little bit more careful about who we issue gun permits to....I promise I'm not making this up. there is a man in my town who is legally blind if he was issued a gun permit.and as much as I hate cops, concealed carry will make their jobs a lot more dangerous because when an officer encounters a suspect,or if it is just a routine traffic stop, that officer needs to know immediately if that person is armed.
 
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I'm just saying. let's be a little bit more careful about who we issue gun permits to....I promise I'm not making this up. there is a man in my town who is legally blind if he was issued a gun permit.and as much as I hate cops, concealed carry will make their jobs a lot more dangerous because when an officer encounters a suspect,or if it is just a routine traffic stop, that officer needs to know immediately if that person is armed.
So what if Cops have to assume folks are armed? There is no need for more gun-control ..the issues we have as a society are not about honest folks having guns ..that's part of the solution. The gun-control agenda is dead ..no matter how hard the left tries to push it.... its only going to hurt them in the upcoming elections and you will soon see they understand that.