The Death of Christianity in America

[The_Wanderer]

My question is, what will American Christians do if they wake up and see that the Republican Party is not God's party and that the direction of the United States is *gasp* not always right?
I have a real problem with so-called patriots who would probably argue with God Almighty if He were to point out what was wrong about the U.S.A.

 

[Itrimid]

I think one of the biggest reasons is the pace of our society now. Ruth Graham once described her faith as a quiet knowing. With the pace of our society today it's hard for people to slow down, to be still enough to hear God's calling. People are looking to the quick answer to explain everything. When people are looking for God, science, and popular opinion (usually secularism) step in with easy, quick, and popular answers to everything. Christianity is seen as archaic. Something our grandparents believed.
Another reason is people falling away from faith. I'm not sure people really understand how important this is. One person turns from his or her faith, marries a non believer and had three kids, now these three kids don't know Christ. What started with one fallen believer is now five people how don't know Christ. It's exponential. I've even meet people who went to church when they were younger and stopped when they became adults. They still believe in God but they haven't talked to they're children about Him. To the children, God is a vague concept, and a topic that makes their parents uncomfortable. So again it's like the first situation. It doesn't require many generations of this for a country founded on Christian beliefs to require missionaries to spread the word of God again in that country.

 

[IDEAtor]

Kenneth, it's OK to admit when you're wrong. Try it sometime. Read: Section 6: Religion and Social Values | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

"The proportion of Democrats saying they never doubt God’s existence has fallen 11 points over the past decade. Among white Democrats, the decline has been 17 points – from 85% in 2002 to 68% currently.

By contrast, conservative and moderate Democrats continue to overwhelmingly say they never doubt God’s existence (91% in 1987, 86% today)."

No political party has a monopoly on God and were Jesus to come back tomorrow, I'm sure that all of us, whatever our beliefs may be, would fall well short of the perfect standard he’d set. That being said, it's time for the Left to stop having it both ways: spewing hatred at Christians while persecuting people who take the Bible seriously and then claiming to be friendly to people of faith. One only look at the public stage of leftist pundits to see exactly what I'm talking about: a genuine thoughtful Christian is as rare as bigfoot amongst the Bill Maher's that comprise the public face of the left.

Yes, the neo-conservatives that dominate the Republican party are war mongering pretend-fiscal-conservatives. That's true and why I'm not a Republican. But let's not act like them and pretend that the left isn't chalk full of God hating, Christian mocking, immoral people that want to use government as a tool against Christianity and genuine Christians whose beliefs and behavior align with a historical, orthodox, and correct exegesis of Christian epistemology for that would be an act of self-deceit in the face of observational refutation.

related link... 2014 | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

 

[ck]

what America need is restoration of worship. I do not know how your church is but at my church we are very serious about the restoration of worship. We follow five keys called NYSKC. New life, Yielding for manna, Salvation for one by one, Keeping for Lord's day, Complete offering. New life represents for morning prayer, waking up and giving your first time to God. Yielding for mana stands for reading the bible. Salvation for one by one stands for evangelism. Keeping for Lord's day means going to church on the appointed time and being able to keep that day holy. Complete offering means giving offering to the Lord without cheating. For an example tithe. The reason why I bring this up is because I believe that everyone should become a NYSKCian! We must stay awake and ask God for restoration in the church and in our lives! It is very important for us to be revived and for us to receive the Hold Spirit. Without the Holy Spirit we can never go out to God. We really need to all go out to God and pray for the revival of America and the restoration of worship! THank you and God bless you. I hope together we can become a NYSKCian and together we can praise God's name who is worthy of all praise!

 

[BlackPlatypus]

My question is, what will American Christians do if they wake up and see that the Republican Party is not God's party and that the direction of the United States is *gasp* not always right?
I have a real problem with so-called patriots who would probably argue with God Almighty if He were to point out what was wrong about the U.S.A.

My question is, why is a Canadian so obsessed about what America does, what American's do, and where America's at in matters of all things including God?

 

[Atwood]

The Lord will call His Church home before we see it here. It is more of a political issue than a religious one. It is the Democrats & supporters who are willing to open the "Pandora Box" to " free for all" behavior, and allowing Christians to be harassed. The score will be settled when they will have to deal with the Tribulation Period for their bad choices. We need to be patient my friend.

Hum. I could see the Lord removing His Church from the USA before its destruction, like Lot out of Sodom. But I don't know any guarantee of escaping persecution. We Christians have had it pretty easy despite the Bible guarantee of persecution to those who would live godly.

Who knows, while Christianity is declining in the USA, maybe it is flourishing in China.

As for me, I am indeed wishing for the Rapture.

Hey, I just realized that my dogs need water!

 

[Atwood]

My question is, why is a Canadian so obsessed about what America does, what American's do, and where America's at

Haven't you heard that there is a shortage of Canadian Bacon now, & they don't have anything else to chow down on. Is it not true that most of the population of Canada live in a strip alongside the USA border? They are our Pal-steenians on the North Bank.

 

[Atwood]

what America need is restoration of worship. I do not know how your church is but at my church we are very serious about the restoration of worship.

Restoring? I think that in modern times worship has already flourished as never before.

Keeping for Lord's day means going to church on the appointed time and being able to keep that day holy.

There is nothing about that in the Bible. It sounds to me like this could be a compulsive preacher who wants things to go his way -- attend all my performances & gimme money.

Your post looks cultish to me. And it is notable that there is no Bible in it, but legalism.

 

[Atwood]

As scary as the idea of people being put to death for being christian is, I think it may be wise to remember that many people who identify them selves as christian have put people to death for being a "witch". I mention this because it's not just non Christians who are guilty of this shameful act.

What is your proof that Christians ever put people to death for being a witch? Why the quote marks around witch? How do you know that killing witches is shameful?

 

[Atwood]

God is a white racist.....

sounds like the ''pastor'' our president sat under for 20 years, Rev. Wright.

Do you have any proof of how often B Obamer attended sermons in the 20 years? Are you sure he didn't go to BedSide Baptist?

 

[wisebeardman]

I don't think people will act against government. They're too attached to what they have to risk what they've got so as to take a risk and fight for what they want and deserve as a truly free people.

I am also of a mind that the voting system as it is now is a rig. I think the popular vote should elect candidates. Period.
If we're suppose to get out and vote, if voter registration is vital, and ID is necessary to keep the lawful voters rights assured, how is it that those individuals votes don't tally individually in the count?
Rescind the Electoral College.

Actually I don't want the "popular vote" to be what decides the election. you see I do not want cities like LA,Chicago,NYC,San Fransico to decide everything. We need the Electoral College but it needs refined. to win the state you should have to win the majority of the counties in said state. Thus big cities have no more power then the least populated county. You see in big cities you have a large populations who vote for a certain party just for the government handouts. Look at Illinois if you take Chicago (big city with a large government handout population) out of the picture then IL goes R.

 

[wisebeardman]

My question is, what will American Christians do if they wake up and see that the Republican Party is not God's party and that the direction of the United States is *gasp* not always right?
I have a real problem with so-called patriots who would probably argue with God Almighty if He were to point out what was wrong about the U.S.A.

Republican is far "better" then the Democrat party.


A Christian voting Democrat is like the Frog giving a ride to the scorpion

 

[kennethcadwell]

Republican is far "better" then the Democrat party.


A Christian voting Democrat is like the Frog giving a ride to the scorpion

What????

How can you say that ?
The republicans since Regan to Romney that I have seen since my time on earth have done nothing but make life harder on the middle to lower class. Romney wanted to take away programs that helped people, and stated that he didn't care about a percentage of people. Bush and Bush jr. bad policies destroyed the economy structure.
I admit Obama hasn't done any better.

Clinton even though got caught in scandals, did turn the economy around a little and put it in good shape. Then Bush jr. came along with his lame duck policies and turn the economy back to bad.

Romney wanted to raise taxes on middle class families, but lower them on the upper class.
This is not Christian like.

Being Christ like is taking care of the less fortunate, not making life harder on them as Regan, and the Bushes did, and Romney would have done.

I am not republican or democrat because they both cause dissension in the country.

 

[A_Friend_In_Christ]

We can always pray that a new revival will make Christianity stronger in the world?

 

[Last]

The church thrives under persecution, it always has.
Bring it on, I say.

That's not true. Much of what is now Muslim land was once Christian.

 

[SonInMe]

My question is, what will American Christians do if they wake up and see that the Republican Party is not God's party and that the direction of the United States is *gasp* not always right?
I have a real problem with so-called patriots who would probably argue with God Almighty if He were to point out what was wrong about the U.S.A.

As a christian conservative republican I have never said or believed the republican party was God's party. That is something liberals say to put down the republican party.

I will say without question or doubt that liberalism is totally satanic and the democratic platform reflects that ideology, well.

I will say without question or doubt that a liberal christian is oxymoronic.

I will say without question or doubt that whatever the liberal position claims to be, it is exactly the opposite and what they claim conservatives to be, they are.

No party is God's party because parties are man's construct but ideologies can be Godly or satanic.

Ideologies cannot be pure either.

Purity is only under God and while liberalism clings to nothing Godly, conservatism, at least, can.

 

[SonInMe]

1. The economy under Clinton had two major contributions. Clinton's agreement with a republican congress in 7 of the ten proposals in the Contract with America and the dot com boom. It was absolutely nothing liberal that accomplished that economy, at all.

To even suggest that conservative ideals hurt the middle class is so delusional as to not even warrent a response. Your great liberal leader now who is implementing every liberal policy imaginable, is an absolute economic disaster.

Government programs...cause poverty. They have NEVER eased poverty. From FDR to LBJ to Obama, these programs have lengthened economic bad times and have historically proven without a doubt that marxism is a total economic failure.

Only blind faith in liberalism can deny historical accuracies. A much bigger faith than liberals faith in Christ. There might be those who call themselves liberal christians but there are no christian liberals.......not one.

 

[The_Wanderer]

What????

How can you say that ?
The republicans since Regan to Romney that I have seen since my time on earth have done nothing but make life harder on the middle to lower class. Romney wanted to take away programs that helped people, and stated that he didn't care about a percentage of people. Bush and Bush jr. bad policies destroyed the economy structure.
I admit Obama hasn't done any better.

Clinton even though got caught in scandals, did turn the economy around a little and put it in good shape. Then Bush jr. came along with his lame duck policies and turn the economy back to bad.

Romney wanted to raise taxes on middle class families, but lower them on the upper class.
This is not Christian like.

Being Christ like is taking care of the less fortunate, not making life harder on them as Regan, and the Bushes did, and Romney would have done.

I am not republican or democrat because they both cause dissension in the country.

Not only that, but both parties expand government and the military-industrial complex. How there can be so many Americans that are still blind to this is beyond me. Many woke up when Ron Paul sounded the truth, but far too many are still in a cranky sleep and would rather figuratively kill you than have you wake them.
What you have is an alleged two-party system that acts like a one-party system with two wings. The argument that Republicans are better than Democrats is like offering someone a choice between milk that has been rotten for three weeks and milk that has only been rotten for two.

 

[The_Wanderer]

As a christian conservative republican I have never said or believed the republican party was God's party. That is something liberals say to put down the republican party.

I will say without question or doubt that liberalism is totally satanic and the democratic platform reflects that ideology, well.

I will say without question or doubt that a liberal christian is oxymoronic.

I will say without question or doubt that whatever the liberal position claims to be, it is exactly the opposite and what they claim conservatives to be, they are.

No party is God's party because parties are man's construct but ideologies can be Godly or satanic.

Ideologies cannot be pure either.

Purity is only under God and while liberalism clings to nothing Godly, conservatism, at least, can.

Sure. And the Republican Party is so conservative and Godly, isn't it? That's what they say at election time, anyhow. Sleep on.

 

[The_Wanderer]

My question is, why is a Canadian so obsessed about what America does, what American's do, and where America's at in matters of all things including God?

Hit a nerve, have I? I must have, since you are now deflecting from the argument.
Just to address the question in your attempt at deflection, do you think living next door to the U.S. allows me to ignore what they do? It's like I imagine lying in bed next to an elephant must be. You'd feel every twitch it makes.