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LightBright

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i dont know. i mean, i dont blame her for reacting that way.
Well truu i hope I don't come off as blaming anyone im js we have things we need to do while we can I don't know much about her i only know about myself and i know that that's my goal so im sharing no it to try and help her if she is in a similar situation but yea idk im gonna save that gif xD
 

Magenta

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Asian culture tends to be more honorable Americans are more about freedom and with that will inevitably come sin and just plain foolishness sadly, they are very disciplined though it's truly admirable. I want to go to some places in Asia someday but life's not that simple cx
In Japan, the women's labor force participation remains among the lowest among developed nations. Women are culturally discouraged from having ambition. Married women are listed, along with children, as part of a man's household. The traditional role of women in Japan has been defined as "three submissions": young women submit to their fathers; married women submit to their husbands, and elderly women submit to their sons. Surveys show that between a 28% to 70% of women have been groped on train cars.
 
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La_Vie_En_Rose

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Well we aren't too far from that just in different ways and Japan is just crazy as much as i want to go there I'm not going to defend them they are really...extra to be nice. And you're right in some cases but Asians are also known for beinguch more polite and obedient although that's not always the case. Either way I think we all have held onto some things we need honor just isn't one of them here in the USA at least imo
I’m glad you said “obedient”. That seems to be the crux of the issue with western men looking for Asian wives. The obedience is attractive. Most western women are not going to obey. They would rather be a partner and in on decision making than obedient to their husbands’ commands.

With as materialistic and as hedonistic as Americans are, deep down, we know the trappings are not really what is important. The economy is going well- and political thinking is that people should be happy with Trump. His approval ratings are in the toilet. Why? Because money is not everything. We miss the civility of Reagan.
 

Magenta

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First off I've missed you cx second that girl is totally adorable xD
Where have you been? Yeah, I have missed seeing you around, too :D I have been busy, first at work (Christmas) and then I was sick for a week, and tonight I have been wrapping presents for hours :eek: What do you do for Christmas?

The Japanese cosmetics industry is the second largest in the world :p
 

LightBright

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In Japan, the women's labor force participation remains among the lowest among developed nations. Women are culturally discouraged from having ambition. Married women are listed, along with children, as part of a man's household. The traditional role of women in Japan has been defined as "three submissions": young women submit to their fathers; married women submit to their husbands, and elderly women submit to their sons. Surveys show that between a 28% to 70% of women have been groped on train cars.
Ambition I don't agree with taking away submission is biblical but the groping part is truly disgusting i want to rip someones eyes out why are men so terrible at controlling themselves.....maybe a little too far but oh well anyway that system is obviously flawed and men are idiots
 

Magenta

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Ambition I don't agree with taking away submission is biblical but the groping part is truly disgusting i want to rip someones eyes out why are men so terrible at controlling themselves.....maybe a little too far but oh well anyway that system is obviously flawed and men are idiots
Biblically, men are supposed to submit to their wives, also :) Two way street :D
 

LightBright

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I’m glad you said “obedient”. That seems to be the crux of the issue with western men looking for Asian wives. The obedience is attractive. Most western women are not going to obey. They would rather be a partner and in on decision making than obedient to their husbands’ commands.

With as materialistic and as hedonistic as Americans are, deep down, we know the trappings are not really what is important. The economy is going well- and political thinking is that people should be happy with Trump. His approval ratings are in the toilet. Why? Because money is not everything. We miss the civility of Reagan.
Hmm i think you have a point but most men take advantage or women who are submissive and just use them for themselves i just want a submissive wife because its a virtue in the Bible and she could help me not be stupid at times yelling at men never works xD, it's obvious most men just want toys they can play with but as Christian men women are seen as something we are to lay our life down for similar to children even though they are supposed to be submissive we are supposed to give our life to make them happy and improve their walk with Christ the women get the easy part basically xD
 

LightBright

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Biblically, men are supposed to submit to their wives, also :) Two way street :D
I don't completely disagree with that but if they both submit fully then submission doesn't exist it just cancels out which completely destroys submission completely making it obsolete women were created to help man and man was created to provide and protect the woman I'm not saying that women aren't important I'm not saying they aren't capable of doing things men can do im saying that being men we are meant to lead that's our role as Christ in marriage while the woman is like the Church even though women are supposed to submit we as men are supposed to live for the woman Christ did everything for the Church but the church submits to him gladly that's how marriage is supposed to be not a fight but we as leaders should be so Godly and selfless towards our wives especially that they will gladly submit to us and we will submit to Christ so that we aren't just making up rules and running our owm race
 

brighthouse98

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Stranger!!! I got one better then that!!! How about a lady talks to you on the phone and says come on over there is nobody home! You drive on over to her house and nobody is home??? LOL Yes that happened to me once!! LOL
 

LightBright

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Stranger!!! I got one better then that!!! How about a lady talks to you on the phone and says come on over there is nobody home! You drive on over to her house and nobody is home??? LOL Yes that happened to me once!! LOL
That's not rejection my good man that's called taking an L. I don't kmow of i have any stories like that i mean mine were bad but like emotional bad not some chick being a jerk exactly hmmm leme think
 
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La_Vie_En_Rose

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Hmm i think you have a point but most men take advantage or women who are submissive and just use them for themselves i just want a submissive wife because its a virtue in the Bible and she could help me not be stupid at times yelling at men never works xD, it's obvious most men just want toys they can play with but as Christian men women are seen as something we are to lay our life down for similar to children even though they are supposed to be submissive we are supposed to give our life to make them happy and improve their walk with Christ the women get the easy part basically xD
So, let me get this straight. According to you, men are more into looks while women are not. Women are to look good while not expecting men to look good and also submit to men who are self proclaimed idiots? It sounds like a Marge and Homer Simpson set up.
 

seoulsearch

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Asian culture tends to be more honorable Americans are more about freedom and with that will inevitably come sin and just plain foolishness sadly, they are very disciplined though it's truly admirable. I want to go to some places in Asia someday but life's not that simple cx
Asian culture is honorable only if you are able to fit into its very narrow parameters.

I was found in a cardboard box as an infant on a street (so the story goes) in South Korea because this is what Asian culture does with unwanted children. The actual story is most likely a lot less pretty, though I won't know until I get to heaven.

I met a Korean woman at a church several years ago whose father was killed during the Korean War, and her own grandmother told her mother to throw her into the nearby river when she was born, because to be born without a father is seen as bad luck in Korea, and worthy of death. All her life, this woman was known as "The Bad Luck Baby" and usually beaten to the point of passing out for anything bad that happened in her family and even her town.

Killing anyone who doesn't fit in, meet social standards, or is somehow seen as "bad luck" for a myriad of reasons is considered the honorable thing to do, no matter how young (and sometimes, the younger the better.)

A member of my family married into a traditional Asian family--and was told that he is merely sub-human and not a real person because he is adopted (even though he is Asian)--because that's just how it goes in Asian culture. This is why you see so many Asian adoptees in other countries like America--because Asian culture wants nothing to do with those conceived or born in what is seen as socially dishonorable situations (which, for most, also includes being a child of mixed race.) The only thing such children are seen as being good for is a profit.

I haven't checked the latest statistics, but last I knew, over 90% of Korean women have their eyelids "fixed" (surgically altered to create a "fold" and make them look more "Western"), and the ones who don't are scorned for not "fixing their eyes," much in the same way that African American women are scolded if they try to let their hair go natural.

Asian culture is very honorable.

Just make sure you're able to born into and then jump through all the flaming hoops in order to earn their honor (which most often starts with being nothing other than a native-born, dyed-in-the-wool, "genuine" member of their race and society), and you're all set.

(Good luck with that... lol.) :)

I respect Asian culture as much as any other "outsider".

But I thank God that He brought me here to the USA, or my life would have been nothing BUT rejection (assuming I would have been allowed to live.)

I know it's very cool for young people now days to be into Asian culture.

I just wish they had a little bit more of a realistic view.
 
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La_Vie_En_Rose

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Asian culture is honorable only if you are able to fit into its very narrow parameters.

I was found in a cardboard box as an infant on a street (so the story goes) in South Korea because this is what Asian culture does with unwanted children. The actual story is most likely a lot less pretty, though I won't know until I get to heaven.

I met a Korean woman at a church several years ago whose father was killed during the Korean War, and her own grandmother told her mother to throw her into the nearby river when she was born, because to be born without a father is seen as bad luck in Korea, and worthy of death. All her life, this woman was known as "The Bad Luck Baby" and usually beaten to the point of passing out for anything bad that happened in her family and even her town.

Killing anyone who doesn't fit in, meet social standards, or is somehow seen as "bad luck" for a myriad of reasons is considered the honorable thing to do, no matter how young (and sometimes, the younger the better.)

A member of my family married into a traditional Asian family--and was told that he is merely sub-human and not a real person because he is adopted (even though he is Asian)--because that's just how it goes in Asian culture. This is why you see so many Asian adoptees in other countries like America--because Asian culture wants nothing to do with those conceived or born in what is seen as socially dishonorable situations (which, for most, also includes being a child of mixed race.) The only thing such children are seen as being good for is a profit.

I haven't checked the latest statistics, but last I knew, over 90% of Korean women have their eyelids "fixed" (surgically altered to create a "fold" and make them look more "Western"), and the ones who don't are scorned for not "fixing their eyes," much in the same way that African American women are scolded if they try to let their hair go natural.

Asian culture is very honorable.

Just make sure you're able to born into and then jump through all the flaming hoops in order to earn their honor (which most often starts with being nothing other than a native-born, dyed-in-the-wool, "genuine" member of their race and society), and you're all set.

(Good luck with that... lol.) :)

I respect Asian culture as much as any other "outsider".

But I thank God that He brought me here to the USA, or my life would have been nothing BUT rejection (assuming I would have been allowed to live.)

I know it's very cool for young people now days to be into Asian culture.

I just wish they had a little bit more of a realistic view.
This is really well said, I wanted to give you a rep, but I’ve given out too many in the last 24 hours. Thanks for writing this post. I would add that children are often sold into sexual slavery in Asia, which is a hideous crime and very dishonorable, indeed.
 
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Asian culture tends to be more honorable Americans are more about freedom and with that will inevitably come sin and just plain foolishness sadly, they are very disciplined though it's truly admirable. I want to go to some places in Asia someday but life's not that simple cx

A few members of my family have married Asian women and I've been so happy for them. They're the definition of grace and honour. It never surprised me that western men went across the shores to find someone to share their life with. Having travelled to different parts of Asia, since I was a child to either holiday or study I can attest how vastly, distinctly different it is from traditional western culture and values.
 

seoulsearch

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This is really well said, I wanted to give you a rep, but I’ve given out too many in the last 24 hours. Thanks for writing this post. I would add that children are often sold into sexual slavery in Asia, which is a hideous crime and very dishonorable, indeed.

Yes, exactly.

I was trying to hint at this in my post, but I'm glad you stated what should be obvious.

Unwanted children (which includes children born out of wedlock--there are no such things as single mothers in Korea--or to mixed parents) are only good for profit, with some of the most prominent examples being adoption... and of course, prostitution or trafficking. I have no illusions about what could have happened to me had God not sent me here to the States.

If any of you young people out there who adore Asian culture are from a single-parent household or unmarried parents, be glad if you were not born into traditional Asian culture, because you would be scorned and ostracized for the rest of your life.

Asian culture does seem to be having a moment right now... I just wish that people would see it like any culture.

It has some wonderful and fascinating things about it.

But, like any other culture, it also has some unspeakable horrors and socially acceptable crimes that need to be stopped, and not glossed over by dolls and cutesy cartoons.
 
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This is really well said, I wanted to give you a rep, but I’ve given out too many in the last 24 hours. Thanks for writing this post. I would add that children are often sold into sexual slavery in Asia, which is a hideous crime and very dishonorable, indeed.
Take a look into "Beating Trauma with Elisabeth Corey". She's a prime candidate to illustrate that this is a global crisis, not particular to any asian subculture at all. Her life and road to recovery is so inspirational, I've spoken to her one on one and there would've been thousands of times as an infant that she wished her biggest problem was being adopted out of the western family she was born into.
 

Magenta

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Yes, exactly.

I was trying to hint at this in my post, but I'm glad you stated what should be obvious.

Unwanted children (which includes children born out of wedlock--there are no such things as single mothers in Korea--or to mixed parents) are only good for profit, with some of the most prominent examples being adoption... and of course, prostitution or trafficking. I have no illusions about what could have happened to me had God not sent me here to the States.

If any of you young people out there who adore Asian culture are from a single-parent household or unmarried parents, be glad if you were not born into traditional Asian culture, because you would be scorned and ostracized for the rest of your life.

Asian culture does seem to be having a moment right now... I just wish that people would see it like any culture.

It has some wonderful and fascinating things about it.

But, like any other culture, it also has some unspeakable horrors and socially acceptable crimes that need to be stopped, and not glossed over by dolls and cutesy cartoons.
Many of those "cutesy cartoons" are quite disturbing in how young women and girls are portrayed :( Of course that is a problem in many cultures, so Asians are not alone in this.

I have had an Asian boss for the last thirty five years, and worked with many Asians in that time. My original boss completely took advantage of the Asian women's submissive natures, making them work when they wanted holidays, or forcing them to take time off without pay, which is actually illegal as far as I know... or use up their holidays when he wanted them to, and not when they wanted to. I will never forget the time one of my co-workers came to me to request that I ask our boss if she could have holidays, specifying the time she wanted, and I told her I would TELL our boss that she would be taking that time off. There were about three of them standing there all giggling into their hands at my response; maybe that is what they were hoping I would say? They knew I was not like them when it came to our boss :p
 

LightBright

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So, let me get this straight. According to you, men are more into looks while women are not. Women are to look good while not expecting men to look good and also submit to men who are self proclaimed idiots? It sounds like a Marge and Homer Simpson set up.
Gawsh thanks for ruining every guys confidence here xD nah but fr i didn't mean all the time when i called men idiots I'm just frustrated cx and women can choose what they want, if you want Johnny Depp goodluck xD im js that women twnd to care about personality more it's just an observation lol. But some women do have to submit to men when they are being stupid we are still human and we are going to make wrong decisions but our wives are there to help us when we fall you guys are more important then people give you credit for tbh. But just because we lead doesn't mean we can't discuss the decisions with our wife it's not that simple but i think i made my point cx, if you're in the homar marge thing well... ..idek what to say to you what did you see in him ig would be the main question. I'm not gonna get into girls being jerks to dudes tho we aren't gonna talk about that for the next ten years too