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Anyone else notice thread was posted.....put in the ground.....touch paper lit.....withdraw.
Our Sista is no longer with us? But we have descended into bickering chaos?
Lets not.
God Bless you all & your passion for the Lord
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Our Sista is no longer with us? But we have descended into bickering chaos?
Lets not.
God Bless you all & your passion for the Lord
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Rushing into marriage and then changing your mind is more difficult to fix, though...
If you "rush into" deciding to remain single, it's a simple thing to change your mind without messy divorces and all that.
But I see your point, Porthos
If you "rush into" deciding to remain single, it's a simple thing to change your mind without messy divorces and all that.
But I see your point, Porthos
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Sure Lil'... You are also a mere 16 years old, and "READ" a meaning into my words that was not there then under some compulsion felt the need to chastise me for your mis-interpretation of my post. TSK TSK young one, our Father is a God of order and heirarchy. By inserting yourself in this manner you assert authority where you have NONE. UNless of course you wanna give a real clear and sound teaching on how Jesus didn't really mean what he said in Matt. 7:7-29?
And frankly, she doesn't have the right to put that kind of expectation on him; to expect him to understand her wavering commitment if she hasn't taken the time to understand it herself and explain it to him. If she decides this isn't what she wants and makes a snap decision, she needs to be ready for it to be permanent and irreversible.
That's why she needs to understand why she feels this way.
That's why she needs to understand why she feels this way.
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Wow...
I've seen you say things similar to this before. Sometimes you're just being blunt and honest, but this? And your comment to Ugly?
Condescending and rude.
Let's encourage our brothers and sisters to study God's word by being nasty to them.
I've seen you say things similar to this before. Sometimes you're just being blunt and honest, but this? And your comment to Ugly?
Condescending and rude.
Let's encourage our brothers and sisters to study God's word by being nasty to them.
Regarding encouragment to study God's word... hmmm... I think that is exactly what I said in both posts.
You're the one who asked who I was. So, I told you. Now you're saying I inserted myself in an unnecessary manner?
Doesn't the Bible also say in 1 Timothy 4:12 "Let no one look down on your youthfulness, but rather in speech, conduct, love, faith and purity, show yourself an example of those who believe."?
Treating others with love and respect is a two-way street.
Love others like you love yourself.
where have you demonstrated love, peace, patience, and kindness towards me?
You reject what I say because I'm young. But I can tell you right now, I'm more than just a "mere sixteen years old."
And you're right, on my own I don't have authority. But the Holy Spirit who dwells in me does.
But I'm choosing to walk away from this. So have at me. You can say whatever you want to me now, because I won't respond.
Doesn't the Bible also say in 1 Timothy 4:12 "Let no one look down on your youthfulness, but rather in speech, conduct, love, faith and purity, show yourself an example of those who believe."?
Treating others with love and respect is a two-way street.
Love others like you love yourself.
where have you demonstrated love, peace, patience, and kindness towards me?
You reject what I say because I'm young. But I can tell you right now, I'm more than just a "mere sixteen years old."
And you're right, on my own I don't have authority. But the Holy Spirit who dwells in me does.
But I'm choosing to walk away from this. So have at me. You can say whatever you want to me now, because I won't respond.
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Well, Ms high and might judge over me. I didn't come to this conclusion yesterday. My belief is from 20+ years of experience and the bible. So before you get up on your high horse telling me i need to learn the bible, perhaps you should learn something about me, first.
And it's true, her scriptures didn't prove a thing to me. So what? Now i'm going to hell because i don't see her use of scripture supporting her argument? Judge much? You should stick to the bible debate forum. You fit right in with the rest of them.
You call my response of 'i don't see it' as a 'mean spirited diatribe', and tell me i'm going to hell for not seeing what someone said, but then claim you had no malice? And accuse another person of their poor attitude? And then come down on Lil as well? Take a look in the mirror for once.
And it's true, her scriptures didn't prove a thing to me. So what? Now i'm going to hell because i don't see her use of scripture supporting her argument? Judge much? You should stick to the bible debate forum. You fit right in with the rest of them.
You call my response of 'i don't see it' as a 'mean spirited diatribe', and tell me i'm going to hell for not seeing what someone said, but then claim you had no malice? And accuse another person of their poor attitude? And then come down on Lil as well? Take a look in the mirror for once.
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I think it's very easy, when reading another's words on here, to mistake their tone. I don't believe I was mistaken about your meaning, however. When most of your posts that I've read sound so very similar, telling people to study their Bible more but using words that don't imply love or encouragement but rather sarcasm and condescension, I find it hard to believe that you don't intend to be "nasty" to others.
I just feel, based on the majority of the posts I've seen from you, that you speak to others as though they just aren't as close to God or as intelligent as you are.
I just feel, based on the majority of the posts I've seen from you, that you speak to others as though they just aren't as close to God or as intelligent as you are.
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Wow! Just absolutely...astounded at this entire thread. Like 2 other CC'ers mentioned. The OP of this thread,has yet once to respond. I feel a combination of things after re-reading the OP's initial statement,then my own...followed by what has basically become a crap storm of arguing & put downs..again the who knows scripture better...yer' too young to know what yer' talking about..so & so is in danger of hell fire,etc................
A few people brought up some interesting points about this girl honoring her initial commitment by accepting this mans's engagement & marriage proposal. I didn't look at it from that angle,but I also feel...at least the way she was describing her story,was that now she had reservations,why?? who knows? The man she was/is to be married to seems like he is being manipulative & throwing God's name around to get her to submit to his desire or wish. This,I do not see as being a Godly example of a future husband. Which is why I suggested that she & him seek counsel with a pastor,or christians that are friends and/or family. Marriage is not to be entered into lightly. So,with all that said...we have no idea what the in's & out's or true details of her situation is,and as she has not come back to the thread to respond (and I don't blame her after what I've read) we are left with what? The same thing that I've seen take place in so very many threads in these Forums (and I'm not just talking about the "singles" area either) Someone will start a thread (usually a noob) asking for advice..or some crazy situation they are in,and then we come along and mostly with good intentions we try to help by giving them some scriptures or just showing sympathy/empathy for what they are dealing with...so many times this snowballs into theological debates,back biting,name calling,people ignoring one another...total chaos. After awhile I can't even figure out what the thread was even about! I can't tell you how many times I've had to go back & read what it was because by page 3 of the thread everyone's jumped ship on some tangent or posting pictures of cats or their favorite person getting hit in the privates off YouTube video. All I can say is,if the person that started this thread ever sees this & reads up to this point... I APOLOGIZE AND AM TRULY SORRY for the madness contained within. I don't know you,I don't know all of what encompasses your life & situation with this man...heck I barely know what I am doing half the time,I'm not gifted at spouting off scripture,nor am I a seasoned veteran of the CC Forums with millions of hours & posts & threads clocked in under my belt. I'm just someone who is trying to hear from God & maybe encourage a few other people to do so as well along the way before I leave this disgusting world behind.
A few people brought up some interesting points about this girl honoring her initial commitment by accepting this mans's engagement & marriage proposal. I didn't look at it from that angle,but I also feel...at least the way she was describing her story,was that now she had reservations,why?? who knows? The man she was/is to be married to seems like he is being manipulative & throwing God's name around to get her to submit to his desire or wish. This,I do not see as being a Godly example of a future husband. Which is why I suggested that she & him seek counsel with a pastor,or christians that are friends and/or family. Marriage is not to be entered into lightly. So,with all that said...we have no idea what the in's & out's or true details of her situation is,and as she has not come back to the thread to respond (and I don't blame her after what I've read) we are left with what? The same thing that I've seen take place in so very many threads in these Forums (and I'm not just talking about the "singles" area either) Someone will start a thread (usually a noob) asking for advice..or some crazy situation they are in,and then we come along and mostly with good intentions we try to help by giving them some scriptures or just showing sympathy/empathy for what they are dealing with...so many times this snowballs into theological debates,back biting,name calling,people ignoring one another...total chaos. After awhile I can't even figure out what the thread was even about! I can't tell you how many times I've had to go back & read what it was because by page 3 of the thread everyone's jumped ship on some tangent or posting pictures of cats or their favorite person getting hit in the privates off YouTube video. All I can say is,if the person that started this thread ever sees this & reads up to this point... I APOLOGIZE AND AM TRULY SORRY for the madness contained within. I don't know you,I don't know all of what encompasses your life & situation with this man...heck I barely know what I am doing half the time,I'm not gifted at spouting off scripture,nor am I a seasoned veteran of the CC Forums with millions of hours & posts & threads clocked in under my belt. I'm just someone who is trying to hear from God & maybe encourage a few other people to do so as well along the way before I leave this disgusting world behind.
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My cousin posted this today on her FB page. Twenty-five years ago, a week before my cousin was to get married, she started wondering if she was making a mistake. She had to get alone with God and pray to really seek answers and to beg God to help keep her from making a mistake. In the end, she realized she had cold feet. And their marriage has been extremely strong.
I think, what you need to do is to get with God, by yourself, and pray. Read the scriptures and just wait for God to answer you. Do not make any decision until you hear from God.
While your waiting for God to answer, look on your past and see if someone in the past has hurt you in such away that it makes it hard for you to be in a commitment. If the answer is yes, then ask yourself why. Have you forgiven the other person, have you sought God to heal your heart? If the answer is no, then you need to ask yourself if you've been single for so long, that the idea of being married scares you. If the answer is yes, explore that, if no, then continue searching your heart. Eventually you will find the reason you do not wish to be married. You may find out that you are scared, or you may find out that God does not wish for you to marry at this time, or not at all. No matter the reason, you will only find this out if you seek God.
We can all tell you what to do, but the fact is, we don't know the whole situation, only what you tell us. We don't know you in person, we don't your boyfriend, and what he sees. And to be honest with you, if I were engaged for about a year, I probably would be pressing for a date. And if someone told me they were not wanting to be married, I would be pretty mad, especially if they didn't tell me why.
I think, what you need to do is to get with God, by yourself, and pray. Read the scriptures and just wait for God to answer you. Do not make any decision until you hear from God.
While your waiting for God to answer, look on your past and see if someone in the past has hurt you in such away that it makes it hard for you to be in a commitment. If the answer is yes, then ask yourself why. Have you forgiven the other person, have you sought God to heal your heart? If the answer is no, then you need to ask yourself if you've been single for so long, that the idea of being married scares you. If the answer is yes, explore that, if no, then continue searching your heart. Eventually you will find the reason you do not wish to be married. You may find out that you are scared, or you may find out that God does not wish for you to marry at this time, or not at all. No matter the reason, you will only find this out if you seek God.
We can all tell you what to do, but the fact is, we don't know the whole situation, only what you tell us. We don't know you in person, we don't your boyfriend, and what he sees. And to be honest with you, if I were engaged for about a year, I probably would be pressing for a date. And if someone told me they were not wanting to be married, I would be pretty mad, especially if they didn't tell me why.
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I'm going to apologize for how I spoke to you. I wasn't even a part of this, I just saw what felt to me like unwarranted rudeness to a couple of people I really respect, and BOOM, my emotions exploded. I'm sorry, really.
(I have no idea if you've responded to my earlier post or not, but I wanted to say this after cooling down and thinking about how I came across)
I'm going to apologize for how I spoke to you. I wasn't even a part of this, I just saw what felt to me like unwarranted rudeness to a couple of people I really respect, and BOOM, my emotions exploded. I'm sorry, really.
(I have no idea if you've responded to my earlier post or not, but I wanted to say this after cooling down and thinking about how I came across)
If one is supposed to relinquish the vow to be married when they no longer "feel" like, then no one should marry. Everyone is going to suffer that temptation. So, succumb to doubt and even unbelief if you will, but do not put God's stamp of approval on it. At least be honest about what you are doing so that you are not deceived.
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If I remember correctly, the Jews were considered married, but not living together, when they were betrothed to each other. I agree that we should see engagements like this. However, not everyone seeks God before they get engaged. I personally think that if she was seeking God before her engagement, why would she think God was saying something different now. Either God has never approved of this engagement, and she's now realizing it, or God has always been approving of it, and she is letting doubt get in her way.