As someone who has no horse in this race, can I suggest you three take this argument out of the thread? As was noted, the proper thing would be to privately discuss this in PMs with each other, not in such an open forum. As it stands, there is about as much tact as a brillo pad being displayed. The original thread topic is no longer even being discussed. The rest of us seem to just be watching in befuddlement which is about all we can do.
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"Yes --- a blindfold for the men --- and a muzzle for the ... 
Wait -- nevermind - I don't want to feed the fire too much... "
Yes - this was really only intended to be funny. I couldn't resist. Please don't take it to be anything else.
Wait -- nevermind - I don't want to feed the fire too much... "Yes - this was really only intended to be funny. I couldn't resist. Please don't take it to be anything else.
I´ll be back whenever I read what sort of stimuli a blind man can see when he "sees" a woman.
I have not idea what a bull feels when he sees cows, particularly when he knows that what it´s seen is what they wanted to let being seen.
It´s like todays war in Gaza and Israel, each part shows what they want to be believed. They need one another, particularly those workers who go to Israel for money, but these hate Israel´s economy or progress.
I wish I really knew what a cow feels when these could wear like these:
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I have not idea what a bull feels when he sees cows, particularly when he knows that what it´s seen is what they wanted to let being seen.
It´s like todays war in Gaza and Israel, each part shows what they want to be believed. They need one another, particularly those workers who go to Israel for money, but these hate Israel´s economy or progress.
I wish I really knew what a cow feels when these could wear like these:
http://www.dogguie.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/moda-japonesa-29.jpg
http://www.dogguie.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/moda-japonesa-6.jpg
http://www.dogguie.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/moda-japonesa-17.jpg
http://www.dogguie.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/moda-japonesa-30.jpg
http://www.dogguie.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/moda-japonesa-34.jpg
http://www.dogguie.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/moda-japonesa-36.jpg
http://www.dogguie.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/moda-japonesa-37.jpg
http://www.dogguie.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/moda-japonesa-40.jpg
http://www.geekologie.com/2007/05/30/japanese-eye-lashes.jpg
http://mlm-s1-p.mlstatic.com/lote-d...-hakata-doll-13341-MLM3383066306_112012-O.jpg
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A quick reply. I'm about to sleep.
@GaryA and seoulsearch - both of you have a point.
@GaryA - I appreciate what GaryA mentiioned in detailed of men predicament re:
physical thing. As for me, i'm to naive of how deeply men struggled. Thanks GaryA for explaining it fully well. Now, I understand. And I don't feel you putting blame on women. Or making excuses, justfication.
@seoulsearch - yes, you're right some of us know already how to take care of ourselves but unlike you, as i said, still naive to that... so slow to learn lol. My awareness iincreased when GaryA shared this thread. And you are also correct that we also struggle like men. I don't feel like you come across too strong bout men's temptation. You are merely emphasizing that with God, all are equal, as men and women pertaining to physical thing. Yeah, in all that we do... be considerate.
1 Corinthians 10:13
No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.
We can only remind people. We cannot control their choices or response. We can only contol our own choices and our own response to that particular situation. They are more accountable to God and we, directly to Him accountable for our actions.
God bless everyone! Let's grow together in faith everyday.
@GaryA and seoulsearch - both of you have a point.
@GaryA - I appreciate what GaryA mentiioned in detailed of men predicament re:
physical thing. As for me, i'm to naive of how deeply men struggled. Thanks GaryA for explaining it fully well. Now, I understand. And I don't feel you putting blame on women. Or making excuses, justfication.
@seoulsearch - yes, you're right some of us know already how to take care of ourselves but unlike you, as i said, still naive to that... so slow to learn lol. My awareness iincreased when GaryA shared this thread. And you are also correct that we also struggle like men. I don't feel like you come across too strong bout men's temptation. You are merely emphasizing that with God, all are equal, as men and women pertaining to physical thing. Yeah, in all that we do... be considerate.
1 Corinthians 10:13
No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.
We can only remind people. We cannot control their choices or response. We can only contol our own choices and our own response to that particular situation. They are more accountable to God and we, directly to Him accountable for our actions.
God bless everyone! Let's grow together in faith everyday.
stephen63, firewire, and garya:
i understand you have become (previously) frustrated and find yourself in disagreement with duchessaimee. but i find it very unacceptable for anyone (male or female) to congregate in a thread for the purpose of discussing your mutually unpleasant impressions of anyone. just. not. cool. while i may be newer to this community, i have to believe that others could easily do the same for any of us -- start swapping stories of unpleasant interaction while others join in and commiserate.
and that's just very counter-productive and frankly, poor form. we all have a responsibility to individually address our conflicts with people in a private manner, not store them up and regale the community with your tales of bitterness.
when this escalated from directly-speaking post to openly berating and trading impressions, it was too far. nothing good has come from this but to air dirty laundry and express what appear to be (petty) resentments. whether you are bashing directly through your words, or indirectly by joking and "liking" these statements, you are participating in unproductive, even destructive dialogue that hurts us as a community.
while i find disagreement and respectful, cordially-expressed conflict healthy and productive in its desire for edification, expression and enlightenment, this "ganging up" and public roast simply went too far.
also, i find it to be decidedly un-gentlemanly, and certainly not befitting for any children of God.
for everyone:
we are called to bear with one another, to show love and godly reproof. we are called to be a light, the salt, a worthy example to the world that we can live, respect, tolerate, and yes, disagree with one another in a manner that honors God and reflects Christs' love and mercy, not anger and resentment. some of the words spoken here seem to have more vitriol than any desire to elucidate.
i find it so amazing, and particularly relevant that of all the things that might have been chosen for us to be identified by the world, John challenges us that it is our love of one another as the means for which the world will recognize us:
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.
john 13:34,35
we all have relevant viewpoints and insight to share, if nothing more than our own perspective. we need to respect that, even when the views are shared without a lot of tact. maybe we need to lead with more compassion, and less accusation.
finally, if there is any doubt, we do have clear instruction regarding how to handle those who treat us in a manner we feel is wrong--even hateful. we should aspire for our attitude and the intent of our words should reflect that.
But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.
luke 6:27-36
and to be PERFECTLY clear, i'm not on "anyone's side" or choosing teams, because i think there's plenty of responsibility to pass around. had the genders been reversed in this, i can promise you, i would feel the exact same way.
and i have taken no offense to anyone's view on this issue--the valid points raised by all are worthy of respectful consideration. and thank you for listening. : )
i understand you have become (previously) frustrated and find yourself in disagreement with duchessaimee. but i find it very unacceptable for anyone (male or female) to congregate in a thread for the purpose of discussing your mutually unpleasant impressions of anyone. just. not. cool. while i may be newer to this community, i have to believe that others could easily do the same for any of us -- start swapping stories of unpleasant interaction while others join in and commiserate.
and that's just very counter-productive and frankly, poor form. we all have a responsibility to individually address our conflicts with people in a private manner, not store them up and regale the community with your tales of bitterness.
when this escalated from directly-speaking post to openly berating and trading impressions, it was too far. nothing good has come from this but to air dirty laundry and express what appear to be (petty) resentments. whether you are bashing directly through your words, or indirectly by joking and "liking" these statements, you are participating in unproductive, even destructive dialogue that hurts us as a community.
while i find disagreement and respectful, cordially-expressed conflict healthy and productive in its desire for edification, expression and enlightenment, this "ganging up" and public roast simply went too far.
also, i find it to be decidedly un-gentlemanly, and certainly not befitting for any children of God.
for everyone:
we are called to bear with one another, to show love and godly reproof. we are called to be a light, the salt, a worthy example to the world that we can live, respect, tolerate, and yes, disagree with one another in a manner that honors God and reflects Christs' love and mercy, not anger and resentment. some of the words spoken here seem to have more vitriol than any desire to elucidate.
i find it so amazing, and particularly relevant that of all the things that might have been chosen for us to be identified by the world, John challenges us that it is our love of one another as the means for which the world will recognize us:
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.
john 13:34,35
we all have relevant viewpoints and insight to share, if nothing more than our own perspective. we need to respect that, even when the views are shared without a lot of tact. maybe we need to lead with more compassion, and less accusation.
finally, if there is any doubt, we do have clear instruction regarding how to handle those who treat us in a manner we feel is wrong--even hateful. we should aspire for our attitude and the intent of our words should reflect that.
But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.
luke 6:27-36
and to be PERFECTLY clear, i'm not on "anyone's side" or choosing teams, because i think there's plenty of responsibility to pass around. had the genders been reversed in this, i can promise you, i would feel the exact same way.
and i have taken no offense to anyone's view on this issue--the valid points raised by all are worthy of respectful consideration. and thank you for listening. : )
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