is homosexuality wrong

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Apostol2013

Apostol2013

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theunwantedone said:
Sir i don't care how god made it its how take these words and say is this fair that a woman and a man who love each can be together but because i like men or women like another girl they are not allowed to be happy with there life and still share the same belief
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God set the order and must be upheld , jesus came with mercy for your change to occur but after having a knowledge of truth and still not adhering it is a presumpuous and rebellious sin at that and not only a simple sin but a deadly one if one does not wake up and smell the cofee ,God made you to be eternal not to go into perdition God loves you but if you refuse to listen to his reason , His truth , I pray that you wake up I love you , and jesus loves you , so much he shed his blood for you , now , dont you think there is something precious worth saving if Our Lord loves you enough to take an interest
 
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tucksma

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theunwantedone said:
Sir i don't care how god made it its how take these words and say is this fair that a woman and a man who love each can be together but because i like men or women like another girl they are not allowed to be happy with there life and still share the same belief
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The issue is that belief is in the bible, and the bible says its wrong.
 
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Hopetobe

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1Co 6:9 - Or do you not know that unrighteous people will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Do not be misled. Those who are sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who submit to homosexual acts, men who practice homosexuality,

10 thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom.

If God says they will not inherit his kingdom, that means that he does not approve of that behavior.
 
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allthisstuff

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I'm a little upset with Christian chat for banning this individual. I understand that his words can affect those who are weak in faith. But he was a guest. God sent us a person and we banned him!

theunwantedone if you can see this.. I replied to your message. God bless

theunwantedone said:
Thanks but don't because i don't care to be that life style i came to ask is it , wrong to love im a man of the people i help save lives with the Trevor project
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I understand. But I still pray that God will touch your heart friend. I just have to say that the Bible says that no one is righteous. Not a single man is good. Saving lives is great, but it does not justify us with God. We can save millions of lives, but our own soul we cannot save.

Jesus was given to us as a perfect sacrifice. Jesus is the only way to the Father. If doing good was enough to make us right with God then Jesus died in vain. He would have died for no reason! A favorite pastor of mine once said, "Good people don't go to heaven, and bad people don't go to hell. Forgiven people go to heaven, and unforgiven people go to hell."

We all have things that we're proud of and things that we hold so dear. But once we meet God, He begins to show us why His ought to replace our way. I'm only 23, but, after living my own life my own way for such a short amount of time, I'm convinced that my way leads to death, depression, and poverty. God's way will lead to truth, life, and everlasting grace.

That's why Christians boldly proclaim God's way of life. But Christians are just people too. Sometimes we go overboard and can be mean or pushy. Please don't take it out on God. Please seek Him. He will reveal Himself to you.
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i feel homosexual is wrong but i can not simply say he or she is going to hell because i love women and im straight and its hard for me to live with just to settle with one women i like multiple women even tho as of right now i do not have multiple but i am willing to have more then one women some day...... my life style is a sin...... im pretty sure everyone has a bad habit of a certain thing that is a sin they do daily. do you know how many sins there are? people ask for forgiveness even super strong christians but they do it again and again .... some one that is homosexual can love god just like any other person ... even super strong christians do not live a perfect lifestyle and they do daily things everyday sinning ....

as much as i hate homosexuality i do not understand it i think its sick nasty, and the most disghusting thing ever but forget my opinion ... we cant just focus on homosexuals .. its wrong alot of things people do is wrong... okay ? this shouldnt be a main topic !! they will always be gay man !! no matter what they are not going to change no matter how you try to explain it !!
 
Apostol2013

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there is no con fusion road narrow is the path but broad is the way to destruction..
 
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NewEagle

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To answer the original question: Is homosexuality wrong? Yes.
 
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didymos

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The Bible tells me that only homosexuals ACTS are wrong though...
 
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Seme

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Its been assumed that having attraction towards men but not acting upon it itself is not a sin, however

Rom 1:27
27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error


What Does the Bible Say About Homosexuality?
 
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Seme said:
Its been assumed that having attraction towards men but not acting upon it itself is not a sin, however

Rom 1:27
27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error


What Does the Bible Say About Homosexuality?
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It isn't a sin. IN that verse it says "men with men committing indecent acts". They ACTED on their feelings. Having gay feelings is not wrong, just like being inclined to drink is not wrong. Its when you focus on them and do them when it becomes wrong.
 
Simona25

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tucksma said:
It isn't a sin. IN that verse it says "men with men committing indecent acts". They ACTED on their feelings. Having gay feelings is not wrong, just like being inclined to drink is not wrong. Its when you focus on them and do them when it becomes wrong.
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So a man doesn`t sin if he feels attraction toward another man, or toward a child, maybe an animal etc. etc.
I do remember, though, that Jesus Christ said that whoever thinks lustful about a woman, he already commited adultery in his heart. So, yes, the simple attraction is a sin, because sin comes from the mind, from the heart.
 
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biscuit

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theunwantedone said:
Why do you see the act as being wrong i think its a personal choice and why does a book seem to have the answer this why people ask this should a book just say its bad and go on with life but why should it matter if we have sex with a man thats y we should always
Live the life you love and love the life you live
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Yes it is your personal choice that we call "free will," but you will have to live with God's consequences.
 
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The baker has a human right to their religious convictions not to indirectly support immorality. The baker's human rights and liberty were flushed down the drain in this case and he is appealing.

Obviously, those who choose to engage in homosexuality, zoophilia, etc... can go down the street and find someone who doesn't have those convictions to bake them their cake or they can bake the cake themselves. That's how a FREE marketplace works. That's how EVERYONE's liberty is e...nsured including the moral baker who doesn't want to participate indirectly in sexually immoral activities they have a moral and/or religious conviction against.

This has zero to do with race, ethnicity, or gender and is all about forcing someone to violate their morality to accommodate another's immorality. Liberals today are increasingly totalitarian in denying moral people their liberty as they ramrod sexual immorality over the rights and liberty of the moral.

Jack Phillips, Colorado Baker, Appeals Order To Serve Gays Via Conservative Christian Organization
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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The persecution of the owners of the bakery by homosexual groups was severe. "Gay" rights groups launched protests and pickets outside the family’s store. They threatened wedding vendors who did business with the bakery. And the family’s children were the targets of death threats.

The family eventually had to close their retail shop and now operate the bakery out of their home. They face hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines, prison, the loss of their business and as a result of that possibly their home, etc... all for failing to bake a single cake for two people that want to engage in sexual immorality.

The "liberty" of "liberals" is on full display in this case. You're next up reader should you dare to hold to your moral convictions. As it stands right now, moral people are not allowed to hold to their moral convictions but immoral people are fully supported by government in the pursuit of their immoral convictions. If it sounds twisted, it is. Let's hope the appeals court sees things differently.

Oregon ruling really takes the cake -- Christian bakery guilty of violating civil rights of lesbian couple | Fox News
 
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tucksma

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Simona25 said:
So a man doesn`t sin if he feels attraction toward another man, or toward a child, maybe an animal etc. etc.
I do remember, though, that Jesus Christ said that whoever thinks lustful about a woman, he already commited adultery in his heart. So, yes, the simple attraction is a sin, because sin comes from the mind, from the heart.
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If a man LUSTS after a man then yes it is a sin. If a man is attracted to one it is not. If he is attracted, but whenever he feels attracted, he turns away so he does not lust (the same way you can see a girl a beautiful, but not lust after her) then he is not sinning.
 
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tucksma

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Just like if the thought "oooo that camera looks nice, I could easily steal it" pops in my mind it isn't a sin until I am actually thinking "I am going to steal it"

If he thinks "I'm going to get this guy's #" or something, it is sin. If he is drawn to it, but denys his attraction, he isn't sinning. Just like if I realize I could steal the camera, but don't ever think about doing it, then I am not sinning.
 
Simona25

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tucksma said:
If a man LUSTS after a man then yes it is a sin. If a man is attracted to one it is not. If he is attracted, but whenever he feels attracted, he turns away so he does not lust (the same way you can see a girl a beautiful, but not lust after her) then he is not sinning.
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A man shouldn`t feel worried if he was attracted by another man, or by a child, by an animal, dead corpses, etc. etc.? I am talking about sexual attraction (in case you haven`t noticed).
And also, I don`t agree with equalising the heterosexual attraction with the homosexual attraction. When a married man is sexually attracted by a woman he sees on the street he is commiting adultery, but the attraction in itself is still natural (instinctual), but when a man is sexually attracted by another man, the same attraction is both sinful and perverted (the libido is perverted from its purpose).

What is your church teaching? They teach you only to refrain yourself from sinning? They do not teach you to renew your human nature, your mind, your soul, your entire being?
So, the homosexual attraction in itself is sinful and perverted from the purpose of the libido; a purpose that goes beyond its simple satisfaction. Just like eating has a purpose beyonf filling your stomach.
 
Simona25

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tucksma said:
Just like if the thought "oooo that camera looks nice, I could easily steal it" pops in my mind it isn't a sin until I am actually thinking "I am going to steal it"

If he thinks "I'm going to get this guy's #" or something, it is sin. If he is drawn to it, but denys his attraction, he isn't sinning. Just like if I realize I could steal the camera, but don't ever think about doing it, then I am not sinning.
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If the thought "oooo that camera looks nice, I could easily steal it" pops into your mind, you should be ashamed of it and examine yourslef, and be careful about the one that inspired you that thought.
 
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Koreo1935

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its not wrong to love, its wrong to lust. thats what homosexuality is, lust and confusion.
 
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Anonimous

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wrong or a sin? yes and yes
 
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