is homosexuality wrong

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homwardbound

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No matter what sin is sin no matter how big or small. Sin caused death and Christ caused new life in the Spirit of God, if one will believe they will see, and stop condemning others and work out their own salvation with fear and trembling, eventually seeing it is all God and of no one else.
And for any and all of you that are accusing and condemning, do you deserve the same?
2 Corinthians 10:5 casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
2 Corinthians 10:6 and having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.
 
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tucksma

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If the thought "oooo that camera looks nice, I could easily steal it" pops into your mind, you should be ashamed of it and examine yourslef, and be careful about the one that inspired you that thought.
Agreed, but it isn't a sin is what I am saying.
 
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tucksma

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its not wrong to love, its wrong to lust. thats what homosexuality is, lust and confusion.
Not 100% true. Someone who is gay, isn't always lusting. A gay guy likes a guy in the same way that you would. The difference is it is ok for you to act on that feeling of attraction (not lust, but attraction). For them it is not.
 
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tucksma

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wrong or a sin? yes and yes
I agree being homosexual is wrong, in the same way being addicted to alcohol is wrong. Its not a sin though unless you act on the inclination to the action.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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You've made a false statement but even if it was true, how could you ever prove it?

Not 100% true. Someone who is gay, isn't always lusting. A gay guy likes a guy in the same way that you would. The difference is it is ok for you to act on that feeling of attraction (not lust, but attraction). For them it is not.
 

homwardbound

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You know I see us all deciding it a sin or not, I wonder when ?God sees through Son, does God the Father see the sin after the death, burial and resurrection?
I mean how is God viewing this? Is God teaching us and training us those that have chosen to believe God, and is this through love, and not condemnation. I mean all that believe are there things you did that by Faith you do not anymore? And so who is it that causes us to stand, God right? So let us pray and trust God to teach each of us to Love as God does, and each I am sure will learn from God and walk away from harming another, do you think? God is Faithful, we are not are we?
 
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Oxford University historian David Starkey, who is both an atheist and a homosexual, appeared on BBC TV in 2011 and said, "It seems to me that what we are doing is producing a tyrannous new morality that is every bit as oppressive as the old."

This new morality calls itself "liberal" and even described what it was doing as "human rights" but Starkey disagreed. He disapproved of the way that aggressive homosexuals were taking away the right of others to follow their own lifestyles, their own values and their own mores. He pointed out that the new regime of enforcement, spying and penalizing people for trangressing LGBT values or offending "gays" was a new form of tyranny and oppression. Starkey recalled how in his youth homosexuals had not been free to pursue their lifestyle and he said that now that they were, the past did not justify imposing tyranny on others.

In fact, it should make them all the more careful not to do so. Gay extremists are keen to use courts and litigation to compel others to accept and participate in their lifestyle, dismissing any other view, even that of a majority of the world, as "bigotry". They call this equality but it is not - it is gay extremism. Starkey said that what society should seek is a genuine "plurality" so that people can follow mores that are equal but DIFFERENT. It is not only Christians who are threatened by this, but the vast majority of people who do not want to be dictated to by a minority.

As a historian, Professor Starkey is of course accustomed to taking a detached and long-term view of human affairs, not merely the fashionable views and prejudices of one generation.

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tucksma

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You've made a false statement but even if it was true, how could you ever prove it?
Well first off have you talked to one? I have. They were interested in a guy for very similar reasons I have been interested in specific girls. He never even mentioned anything sexually related. Like I could have seen myself hearing everything he said from a girl, and thought nothing different of it.

A gay man likes another man in a very similar way that we like women. The difference is its just not how it is supposed to be and is wrong. I am not saying by any means it is right, just saying it isn't always lust.

In the same way, how could you ever prove it is always lust?
 
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Sushimaru

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How could you put pedophiles and homosexuals in the same boat? That is insane. I know some absolutely lovely gay people, better than many Christians. Are they going to hell just because they refuse to accept God? It's unjust.
 

homwardbound

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hey, that's what my old pedophile pastor used to say :eek:
That is a manipulation of true Love from Father through Son. There are a lot of snakes in the grass just waiting to lie and deceive
But the truth sets you free, and no manipulation of it, sorry you saw this, yet you can learn from this in awareness to keep from it yourself and maybe help others as well, count everything as a joy, whether good or bad, cur out the evil emotions and walk in truth that sets you and others free
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Yes many. You are ignoring all differences between males and females completely while simultaneously failing to understand the critical difference between God's blessing on male/female erotic intimacy which falls within the boundaries of his provision for it and His condemnation against all male/male erotic intimacy. The latter fact alone differentiates the very nature of a godly male/female relationship and all others which includes any male/male erotic relationship both in material and supernatural dimensions.

We're not just talking about the endocrine system passing chemicals here. Apples and oranges friend, apples and oranges.

Well first off have you talked to one? I have. They were interested in a guy for very similar reasons I have been interested in specific girls. He never even mentioned anything sexually related. Like I could have seen myself hearing everything he said from a girl, and thought nothing different of it.

A gay man likes another man in a very similar way that we like women. The difference is its just not how it is supposed to be and is wrong. I am not saying by any means it is right, just saying it isn't always lust.

In the same way, how could you ever prove it is always lust?
 

NateDaGrimes

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If He died for the sinner, then how can He hate the sinner? Jesus said God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him won't perish but have eternal life.
Welp we still know god hates the workers of iniquity and again, it leads back to the sinner.
Did God say he was going to throw sin into hell? sin is not a being and hell is a place for beings.

Yet you need to come to mind even god loves the person, he hates him or her as a sinner.
 
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biscuit

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Welp we still know god hates the workers of iniquity and again, it leads back to the sinner.
Did God say he was going to throw sin into hell? sin is not a being and hell is a place for beings.

Yet you need to come to mind even god loves the person, he hates him or her as a sinner.
God hate the sin but love the sinner
 

NateDaGrimes

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Does God send sin into hell? clearly he has to send somebody in it...
 

homwardbound

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Does God send sin into hell? clearly he has to send somebody in it...
Sin caused death period, and Christ Jesus took it all away at the cross

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Christ separated death from sin, which alsoi judged the devil

John 16:11 of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

[h=3]John 16:8-11[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]8 [/SUP]And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: [SUP]9 [/SUP]of sin, because they believe not on me; [SUP]10 [/SUP]of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; [SUP]11 [/SUP]of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.





By belief we are born again from God, we receive this and taught by God what is good and what is not, and this depends on ones motive to receive or not. We get to know all things are permissible, but not all things are beneficial, whnen one decides homosexuality is not beneficial, then one quits, never without being in agreement with God, will one quit

The devil has been judged, but not all flesh. Flesh by itself is selfish, it wants what it wants and when other tell others they must, the flesh grows stronger in watch me. Sin takes occasion by the commandment, when it comes to love.
That is just what flesh does it is weak when it comes to love, true love.
Flesh can love those that love them easily, what about others outside your group
Luke 6:32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.

Those that are going to hell are those that just do not care for their neighbor and all Human beings are our neighbor
When believe God and God accepts you, me or anyone, it is imputed into us this type of love.
And it is a hard fight to come to enter God's rest and forsake what is not beneficial, even things that seem beneficial are not always
 
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Koreo1935

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Do you see sex between a brother or sister as wrong? If so why?
idk if you're a christian or not, but its incest, the bible talks about it in Leviticus 18.
 
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Yes, homosexuality is an immoral behavior.

The most important imagery for homosexual acts in the Bible is the language in Romans 1 of "exchanging" God’s purposes and of God letting go.

While references to homosexual acts are limited in Scripture, they become a powerful image for those who in their blindness have given up God’s good gift of healthy sexuality and have exchanged it for something degrading and unnatural.

Homosexual acts become a symbol in Scripture for violating a basic principle of holiness: mixing that which the Lord declared should be separate.

Understand that the Roman verses contain one of the very earliest combined condemnations of female and male homosexuality alike. Only two earlier texts make the link (Plato Laws I.636c; Pseud.-Phoc. Sentences 191–92). The fact that both female and male homosexuality along with pedastry are condemned, makes the scriptural statement generic.

In Romans 1 Paul condemns homosexual acts, lesbian as well as male, in the same breath as idolatry (vv. 23–27), but his theological canvas is broader than that of Leviticus. Instead of treating homosexual behaviour as an expression of idolatrous worship, he traces both to the bad ‘exchange’ fallen man has made in departing from his Creator’s intention (vv. 25f.).

Seen from this angle, every homosexual act is unnatural (para physin, v. 26), not because it cuts across the individual’s natural sexual orientation (which, of course, it may not) or infringes Old Testament law (which it does), but because it flies in the face of God’s creation scheme for human sexual expression.

It is one thing to repent and become a Christian in recovery/sanctification struggling with sin issues in their life. This is the condition many Christians find themselves in. Perhaps all, to some extent. These are born-again and have aligned themselves with God in truth.

It is entirely another thing to justify one's sin as normal and refuse to repent of it and align with ungodliness in rebellion to God twisting His Word to "justify" it.

Liberal post revisionists and homosexuals have falsely reinterpreted scripture to support their immoral behavior. If you run into this Koreo1935, and have questions about it, feel free to message me and I'll untwist it for you and reveal their errors. Peace.
 
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Yes, homosexuality is an immoral behavior.

The most important imagery for homosexual acts in the Bible is the language in Romans 1 of "exchanging" God’s purposes and of God letting go.

While references to homosexual acts are limited in Scripture, they become a powerful image for those who in their blindness have given up God’s good gift of healthy sexuality and have exchanged it for something degrading and unnatural.

Homosexual acts become a symbol in Scripture for violating a basic principle of holiness: mixing that which the Lord declared should be separate.

Understand that the Roman verses contain one of the very earliest combined condemnations of female and male homosexuality alike. Only two earlier texts make the link (Plato Laws I.636c; Pseud.-Phoc. Sentences 191–92). The fact that both female and male homosexuality along with pedastry are condemned, makes the scriptural statement generic.

In Romans 1 Paul condemns homosexual acts, lesbian as well as male, in the same breath as idolatry (vv. 23–27), but his theological canvas is broader than that of Leviticus. Instead of treating homosexual behaviour as an expression of idolatrous worship, he traces both to the bad ‘exchange’ fallen man has made in departing from his Creator’s intention (vv. 25f.).

Seen from this angle, every homosexual act is unnatural (para physin, v. 26), not because it cuts across the individual’s natural sexual orientation (which, of course, it may not) or infringes Old Testament law (which it does), but because it flies in the face of God’s creation scheme for human sexual expression.

It is one thing to repent and become a Christian in recovery/sanctification struggling with sin issues in their life. This is the condition many Christians find themselves in. Perhaps all, to some extent. These are born-again and have aligned themselves with God in truth.

It is entirely another thing to justify one's sin as normal and refuse to repent of it and align with ungodliness in rebellion to God twisting His Word to "justify" it.

Liberal post revisionists and homosexuals have falsely reinterpreted scripture to support their immoral behavior. If you run into this Koreo1935, and have questions about it, feel free to message me and I'll untwist it for you and reveal their errors. Peace.
Excellent Post!!!

Yes it is wrong, it's sexual immorality!
Is whore mongering, adultery, Homosexuality wrong;
in God's EYES in His Creation?

What sort of darkness has seeped into the teaching of what is taught to be the mind of Christ;
in the preaching of the Gospel that sexual immorality does not need to be washed in the Blood?
There is no human being alive who has lived any length of age,
who has not had to deal with this sin, of sexual immorality in some form.
We are fallen sexual beings!

When people in the Church or the world stop being condemned in their conscience,
of sexual immorality, something bad is well on it's way. I have heard in these cc forum's the condemning of the preaching of this 1st ch of Romans in condemning this form of sexual immorality!
As if it were not a New Testament Document at all?!

What are you going to do some morning, in the not to distant future,
if you wake up to find world wide millions, maybe up to a billion people, are dead?
...God will not be mocked, what so ever a man soweth, that will he also reap.....
And the stench of death you cannot get out of your nose?

If God rains down in the Spirit world fire and brimstone,
and destroys the homosexuals and those who support them?

Man, the Church, or the World cannot stop what has been unleashed upon this planet!
It is not the actual act but the defiance against God, and it's reaching out to have what is Holy to God!
What did Abraham do in Lots situation?, the same as most people today who truly know God;
he plead with God, over and over again and again! Who did God Himself go to in that hour? Abraham!
Who is God coming to today? Abraham! The Church is trying every way to defend them to God,
but God is saying there are not as many righteous people in this thing as you are saying.

No sooner does a Community or State, votes down a gay rights marriage, or the such, by a vote of the people!
A judge or an Obama stooge steps in and over turns a vote of the people!
They are playing on the emotions of a sexually created people who are all sinners!
Give the Devil his due, this is genius!

So, if Sodom is a type of something bigger than itself,
and Abraham was the Father of many nations, who now cover the entire Globe of the earth. some 4000 yrs later.
(Which has now been manifested in this symbolism)
There is no where in the world to run and hide from this sin or the fire that would purge it.

Do you not believe that this would get the attention of the entire world, immediately!
People would fill the streets of the world, fall down on their faces and weep,
and cry out to God in Jesus Name to forgive them!
And completely shut down the world, for who know how long.

The Angel's that went to Sodom, represented in type and shadow, of that which was Holy to God!
These creatures today are trying to creep into that which is Holy to God, world wide!
There is nothing Sacred any longer, and God will stop it, He will not be mocked!
This is nothing I've made up, but I am asking you this question?

Do you not believe that God is not going to fulfill His yet unfulfilled prophecies?
Sodom was a lawless place and sexual immorality was what brought God to visit Abraham?
God's Word says Lot was a righteous man, and God sent what was Holy to Him, to save Lot!
just some thoughts