Oneness
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if your going to quote someone, please put down who your quoting.
You then went on to say God is a spirit which is also correct.
I agreed with you and said that imo God is a title the same as king or queen is a title and like God a king and queen fulfills many rolls, which is also correct.
Added to which a king or Queen is One Person like God.
Are you with me so far?
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You ask "Now what" which brings us back to my earlier question about these three.
Flight Lieutenant of the Royal Air Force
Lieutenant of the Royal Navy
Field Marshal of the British Army
The truth of the matter is that all three are one person, that person being Prince Charles. They are three of his rolls, he has others. The point I wanted to make is that Prince Charles is one person fulfilling three rolls. There is no need to divide him up or to say he is three persons. God is omnipotent and omnipresent and he is "All in All" and it is as simple as that.
God bless.
Flight Lieutenant of the Royal Air Force
Lieutenant of the Royal Navy
Field Marshal of the British Army
The truth of the matter is that all three are one person, that person being Prince Charles. They are three of his rolls, he has others. The point I wanted to make is that Prince Charles is one person fulfilling three rolls. There is no need to divide him up or to say he is three persons. God is omnipotent and omnipresent and he is "All in All" and it is as simple as that.
God bless.
Wow! The word of God is not to be argued or debated upon but is to be discussed and share with everyone. When we argue and debate upon the word, it shows that the devil is in us because this is what he want and what he does. We should remember that the word of God in the Bible is God Himself and His wisdom and understanding surpasses us all. God is one and He demonstrates Himself to us in three forms (Read the message I posted here title THE ONLY UNCHANGEABLE THING ON EARTH) ie in the form of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Some verses in the Bible especial in the OT show God only in the form of the Father while others show Him in all His three forms (ie the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit) and others in two or one form. God can use any method or medium or form to demonstrate Himself with it. Remember what Jesus said to Philip in John 14:10-11 ( Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father in me? The words that I say I do not speak on my own authority; but the Father who dwells in me does His works. Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father in me; or believe me for the sake of the works themselves.Again, remember that most of the words in the Bible are in parables and to understand them you must have the Holy Spirit in you to interpret it for you and to make you understand it. These words are Spirit and Life.Jesus in this same verse said that 'I do not speak on my own authority; but the Father who dwells in me does His works". The reason why Jesus said this is because He was teaching us that we should never take glories for ourselves but we should give all glory to God; for example He was saying that when we who are the believers performs miracles or do wonderful things or whatever situation which happen to us, let us give all glory to God.GOD bless you all and let His Holy Spirit interpret His word to you all.
i tried to download the PneumaPsucheSoma software into my brain
first there was a burnt smell then a pop-up telling me "not enuf ram"
oh well. ill go pull weeds
first there was a burnt smell then a pop-up telling me "not enuf ram"
oh well. ill go pull weeds
It's a simple understanding from the inspired text.All I was doing was identifying one of the many doctrines of men asserting God's nature and constitution.
C
Chesed, this oneness teaching is contrary to several clear verses in Scripture saying how the Father is God, the Son is God and the Holy Spirit is also God, yet the Son is NEVER the Father, the Father is NOT the Son, and the Holy Spirit is neither of the other two. All three are real, and all three are Divine, and yet there is only ONE Divine Being. this idea confused christians (and still does Jews and Muslims) for about 400 years from the time of the Apostles. first let me offer my analogy for the one God, three Persons idea:
To better understand the Trinity, think of 3 sunbeams shining on a partially cloudy day. Each are of the same source, same substance, but illuminating different areas.. they are all of the same thing, yet distinct from one another.. So it is with God..>one BEING< one substance, but apparent in 3 PERSONS: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
To better understand the Trinity, think of 3 sunbeams shining on a partially cloudy day. Each are of the same source, same substance, but illuminating different areas.. they are all of the same thing, yet distinct from one another.. So it is with God..>one BEING< one substance, but apparent in 3 PERSONS: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
C
Chesed, now look at this from Isaiah 61:1 "The spirit of the Lord is upon me, because the Lord hath anointed me: he hath sent me to preach to the meek, to heal the contrite of heart, and to preach a release to the captives, and deliverance to them that are shut up." (comment- This is Jesus speaking. and in these words written in Isaiah, Jesus reveals the Trinity. The Father anoints, the Son receives the anointing, and the Spirit is the oil of the anointing.)
C
Pneuma, but that does NOT accurately represent the picture of God in Scripture. If God does not change then there cannot have been a time when there was no Father, or no Son, and no Holy Spirit. All three PERSONS must always have existed, in reality, not as a "role" performed by someone. When Jesus prays to His Father, he doesn't dash off like Superman and change his role at the other end in order to receive the prayers he just sent to heaven. In fact he NEVER says he IS the Father, he says the Father is IN HIM (and He is in the Father).