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Very good question friend 
[h=3]Matthew 5:14-16[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
Lets take a look at 1 John 1:5 "[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all."[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]So here we can clearly see from Scripture that God is Light amen, So with that understanding we know, in and of ourselves we have no 'light' in us, because God is light Without God we would have no light to shine
And the reason we should want God's light to shine in us and through is very simple, shown to us in Matthews
[/FONT][SUP]16 [/SUP][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]God has chosen us for a special work, and this is one of them, but the point really comes alive when we read the following in 1 Peter 2:9 "[/FONT]But ye [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:"[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]God has chosen us to worship and and bring him glory, which others will see because of our actions and also glorify our father which is in heaven
It truly is a blessing, to think, God can use you to save a soul God is love, he expresses that throughout the bible and even in our own personal lives, so it is only right that we do as God has commanded us, which is very simple, so simply he summed it up for us
Luke 10:27 "[/FONT]And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself."
Hope this has been a blessing for you, if so, Gloryb2God
[h=3]Matthew 5:14-16[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
Lets take a look at 1 John 1:5 "[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all."[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]So here we can clearly see from Scripture that God is Light
amen, So with that understanding we know, in and of ourselves we have no 'light' in us, because God is light Without God we would have no light to shine And the reason we should want God's light to shine in us and through is very simple, shown to us in Matthews
[/FONT][SUP]16 [/SUP][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]God has chosen us for a special work, and this is one of them, but the point really comes alive when we read the following in 1 Peter 2:9 "[/FONT]But ye [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:"[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]God has chosen us to worship and and bring him glory, which others will see because of our actions and also glorify our father which is in heaven
It truly is a blessing, to think, God can use you to save a soul
God is love, he expresses that throughout the bible and even in our own personal lives, so it is only right that we do as God has commanded us, which is very simple, so simply he summed it up for us Luke 10:27 "[/FONT]And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself."
Hope this has been a blessing for you, if so, Gloryb2God
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Very good question friend
[h=3]Matthew 5:14-16[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
Lets take a look at 1 John 1:5 "[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all."[/FONT]
[h=3]Matthew 5:14-16[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
Lets take a look at 1 John 1:5 "[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all."[/FONT]
Sideburns... The Light is the Word of God, Jesus is the light and the Word of God, And there is another thing about this light... It has NO COMMUNION WITH DARKNESS....
So this is how I see it... Jesus prayed to the Father and said.... I pray for them Thou hast given me, and those that will receive their word, I PRAY NOT FOR THE WORLD... Father SANCTIFY THEM in Your Truth, Your Word is Truth...
Now here is the whole thing come together in God's Word....
Jesus said: You shall know the Truth (God's Word/Jesus) and the truth shall make you free. (And if HE makes you free you are free indeed) All who are made free from the DARKNESS/WORLD/SIN/LIES/FALSENESS/EVIL... are made free to have NO PART with darkness... You CANNOT serve God and Mammon... NOt may not, CANNOT!!!! IMPOSSIBLE...
Just as impossible for darness to penetrate into light.... If I switch a light on in a room, the LIGHT CHASETH OUT ALL DARKNESS.... Same with us when we become light.. NOT LIGHT WALKERS,,, THE LIGHT... And we become it HOW?
Jesus IS THE LIGHT... IF WE WALK IN JESUS, AND HE IN US WE ARE IN THE LIGHT AND THE LIGHT IS IN US... NO DARKNESS IN US, OVER US, or WITH US.... ONLY LIGHT... PERFECT LIGHT...
I can post all the Scripture if one has questions about the TRUTH of what I write..
Let me tell you one little Truth... GOD will NEVER call a person that has darkness in him, a child of the light... God will first put the LIGHT in a person then say.... YOU ARE THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD... Because God is the ONLY one that can put Christ Jeuss in a person... THO ONLY ONE!!! Called Baptism of Holy Spirit/Rebirth/Enter narrow Gate/Perfect man/Born of God/Glorification/Completion of God's Work.
Aperson is either ALL BLACK, or ALL WHITE ... ALL Holy or ALL sinner... When god calls a Sinner, God makes Him Holy... When God starts with a sinner in the black, God finishes with a holy man in the light/white. That is called SAVED SINNER... God's salvation..
We serve a POWERFUL God, and NO SIN can beat Him. NONE. There is not a single sin that can come into God's light... THEY HATE THE LIGHT... That is why God's LIGHT CHILDREN CANNOT SIN... they have LIGHT IN THEM... Darkness CANNOT ENTER..
Also a person is either this sin side of the Narrow Gate or the holy Side of the Narrow Gate,,,, The one side has NO SIN TO DO...NONE... God said IN HIM IS NO SIN.... How can you do SIN IN GOD? AND HOW CAN GOD DO SIN IN YOU?... He is the light that is in you.... AND YOU ARE IN HIS LIGHT... WHERE IS THERE PLACE FOR DARKNESS? THERE IS NONE...
So this is how I see it... Jesus prayed to the Father and said.... I pray for them Thou hast given me, and those that will receive their word, I PRAY NOT FOR THE WORLD... Father SANCTIFY THEM in Your Truth, Your Word is Truth...
Now here is the whole thing come together in God's Word....
Jesus said: You shall know the Truth (God's Word/Jesus) and the truth shall make you free. (And if HE makes you free you are free indeed) All who are made free from the DARKNESS/WORLD/SIN/LIES/FALSENESS/EVIL... are made free to have NO PART with darkness... You CANNOT serve God and Mammon... NOt may not, CANNOT!!!! IMPOSSIBLE...
Just as impossible for darness to penetrate into light.... If I switch a light on in a room, the LIGHT CHASETH OUT ALL DARKNESS.... Same with us when we become light.. NOT LIGHT WALKERS,,, THE LIGHT... And we become it HOW?
Jesus IS THE LIGHT... IF WE WALK IN JESUS, AND HE IN US WE ARE IN THE LIGHT AND THE LIGHT IS IN US... NO DARKNESS IN US, OVER US, or WITH US.... ONLY LIGHT... PERFECT LIGHT...
I can post all the Scripture if one has questions about the TRUTH of what I write..
Let me tell you one little Truth... GOD will NEVER call a person that has darkness in him, a child of the light... God will first put the LIGHT in a person then say.... YOU ARE THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD... Because God is the ONLY one that can put Christ Jeuss in a person... THO ONLY ONE!!! Called Baptism of Holy Spirit/Rebirth/Enter narrow Gate/Perfect man/Born of God/Glorification/Completion of God's Work.
Aperson is either ALL BLACK, or ALL WHITE ... ALL Holy or ALL sinner... When god calls a Sinner, God makes Him Holy... When God starts with a sinner in the black, God finishes with a holy man in the light/white. That is called SAVED SINNER... God's salvation..
We serve a POWERFUL God, and NO SIN can beat Him. NONE. There is not a single sin that can come into God's light... THEY HATE THE LIGHT... That is why God's LIGHT CHILDREN CANNOT SIN... they have LIGHT IN THEM... Darkness CANNOT ENTER..
Also a person is either this sin side of the Narrow Gate or the holy Side of the Narrow Gate,,,, The one side has NO SIN TO DO...NONE... God said IN HIM IS NO SIN.... How can you do SIN IN GOD? AND HOW CAN GOD DO SIN IN YOU?... He is the light that is in you.... AND YOU ARE IN HIS LIGHT... WHERE IS THERE PLACE FOR DARKNESS? THERE IS NONE...
our choice either we go by flesh or Spirit. Flesh being rules by it brings damnation, but we are not ruled by it, our choice is simple read below, and it is your choice. And if you do believe then you are born again,and are learning to poutoff the law of sin and death that can only reside in your flesh not in your new Spirit through belief
Law Cannot Save from Sin Romans 7:13-25
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. [SUP]15 [/SUP]For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. [SUP]16 [/SUP]If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. [SUP]17 [/SUP]But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. [SUP]18[/SUP]For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. [SUP]19 [/SUP]For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. [SUP]22 [/SUP]For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. [SUP]23 [/SUP]But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. [SUP]24 [/SUP]O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? [SUP]25 [/SUP]I thank God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!
Law Cannot Save from Sin Romans 7:13-25
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. [SUP]15 [/SUP]For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. [SUP]16 [/SUP]If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. [SUP]17 [/SUP]But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. [SUP]18[/SUP]For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. [SUP]19 [/SUP]For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. [SUP]22 [/SUP]For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. [SUP]23 [/SUP]But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. [SUP]24 [/SUP]O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? [SUP]25 [/SUP]I thank God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!
I have been studying and I wish to share something. So lets begin?
Ephesians 2:8-9
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Verse 8&9 clearly states that we are saved by Grace, it is a gift from God, not of ourselves and not of works lest any man boast.
Is that point made clear to us from scripture? We are saved by God's Grace, Point blank period, and I just want to take this time to emphasize that we are saved by GRACE.
But if we look closely, this verse is conditional, we can ONLY access this saving grace, according to this verse, through our faith. So no faith, no grace. Is that point clearly seen in scripture? "For by grace are ye saved THROUGH faith;"
So what James is saying is our faith can be dead! Thats why he gave those example in verses 15&16, because you didn't do anything for your sister or brother, you just gave them some 'lip' service!
Wow to think we can have faith but it mean nothing! Is that not why James said
James 2:18 "Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works."
James is saying he can prove his faith by his works! but he would love for you to show him your faith WITHOUT any works.
He figured some would be foolish enough to think that is possible, to show their faith without any works and cling to the fact that they believe!
James 2:18"Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."
You believe in Jesus Christ? Amen! Good james says, the devils also believe and tremble, So what's the difference between you and them?
James 2:20"But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"
James 2:21-22"WasnotAbrahamourfatherjustifiedbyworks, when he had offeredIsaachissonupon the altar?","Seest thouhowfaithwrought with hisworks,andbyworkswasfaith made perfect ?"
What a wonderful picture now painted for us! Because Abraham believed in God, it brought forth his works(Obedience), thus making his faith Perfect!
James 2:23"And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, AbrahambelievedGod,and it was imputed unto him forrighteousness:and he was called the Friend of God"
James 2:24"Ye seethen how thatbyworks a man is justified , andnotbyfaithonly."
One has to question, Justified from what? Perhaps another time, we can dig into that statement, for now, Lets turn our attention to Genesis!
Genesis 6:5-8
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
Verses 7 and 8 are very important! and heres why. God said he was going to destroy man, and also God found GRACE in noah keep this in mind as we continue reading, skipping down to verse 13.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.
So here we have God telling Noah what was to come to pass, the end of all flesh, but remember God found grace in Noah so he was telling him this to save his life but it was conditional Noah had to do something! Can you guess what it was?, God told him in verse 14 to make an ark, not only that but in verse 15 he told him THIS is the fashion which thou shalt make it of, being very specific! If you guessed Noah had to make an ark you are correct! Good job, but who told him to make it? God, therefore Noah was being Obedient to God, but why? Why would Noah be obedient to God? Lets look at hebrews
Hebrews 11:7
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
So we can see here clearly from scripture it was because Noah had FAITH in God that he was Obedient which not only saved him but also his family because God found GRACE in Noah. Can we see very clearly how Faith without works is dead? Can you imagine if Noah had not built the ark but yet he said he believed 100% that what God said was true and that it was going to come to pass? How foolish would that have been?
What about Cain and abel? Both believed in God but one was obedient and the other wasn't, Who did God accept?
Hebrews 11:4
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
To say you have faith without works is foolishness according to scripture because it is dead!
James 2:15-17 "If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,","And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?","Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone."
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Not of works, lest any man should boast.
So again, we are stilled saved by God's Grace, nothing more nothing less, it is a gift from God that he gave out of love to us, therefore it is not of ourselves, we did not come up with this grace and we can't earn it through our works lest any man should boast, the only way we can access this Grace is Through our faith.
Ephesians 2:8-9
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Verse 8&9 clearly states that we are saved by Grace, it is a gift from God, not of ourselves and not of works lest any man boast.
Is that point made clear to us from scripture? We are saved by God's Grace, Point blank period, and I just want to take this time to emphasize that we are saved by GRACE.
But if we look closely, this verse is conditional, we can ONLY access this saving grace, according to this verse, through our faith. So no faith, no grace. Is that point clearly seen in scripture? "For by grace are ye saved THROUGH faith;"
James asked a question that had me thinking.
James 2:14"What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?"
Then he continues to say
James 2:15-17 "If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,","And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?","Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone."
So what James is saying is our faith can be dead! Thats why he gave those example in verses 15&16, because you didn't do anything for your sister or brother, you just gave them some 'lip' service!
Wow to think we can have faith but it mean nothing! Is that not why James said
James 2:18 "Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works."
James is saying he can prove his faith by his works! but he would love for you to show him your faith WITHOUT any works.
He figured some would be foolish enough to think that is possible, to show their faith without any works and cling to the fact that they believe!
James 2:18"Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."
You believe in Jesus Christ? Amen! Good james says, the devils also believe and tremble, So what's the difference between you and them?
James 2:20"But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"
Once again, our brother James is letting us know that our faith can be dead.
He continues on to example the difference between dead faith and perfect faith.
He continues on to example the difference between dead faith and perfect faith.
James 2:21-22"WasnotAbrahamourfatherjustifiedbyworks, when he had offeredIsaachissonupon the altar?","Seest thouhowfaithwrought with hisworks,andbyworkswasfaith made perfect ?"
What a wonderful picture now painted for us! Because Abraham believed in God, it brought forth his works(Obedience), thus making his faith Perfect!
James 2:23"And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, AbrahambelievedGod,and it was imputed unto him forrighteousness:and he was called the Friend of God"
James wants to conclude!
James 2:24"Ye seethen how thatbyworks a man is justified , andnotbyfaithonly."
One has to question, Justified from what? Perhaps another time, we can dig into that statement, for now, Lets turn our attention to Genesis!
Genesis 6:5-8
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
Verses 7 and 8 are very important! and heres why. God said he was going to destroy man, and also God found GRACE in noah
keep this in mind as we continue reading, skipping down to verse 13.[SUP]13 [/SUP]And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.
So here we have God telling Noah what was to come to pass, the end of all flesh, but remember God found grace in Noah so he was telling him this to save his life but it was conditional Noah had to do something! Can you guess what it was?, God told him in verse 14 to make an ark, not only that but in verse 15 he told him THIS is the fashion which thou shalt make it of, being very specific! If you guessed Noah had to make an ark you are correct! Good job, but who told him to make it? God, therefore Noah was being Obedient to God, but why? Why would Noah be obedient to God? Lets look at hebrews
Hebrews 11:7
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
So we can see here clearly from scripture it was because Noah had FAITH in God that he was Obedient which not only saved him but also his family because God found GRACE in Noah. Can we see very clearly how Faith without works is dead? Can you imagine if Noah had not built the ark but yet he said he believed 100% that what God said was true and that it was going to come to pass? How foolish would that have been?
What about Cain and abel? Both believed in God but one was obedient and the other wasn't, Who did God accept?
Hebrews 11:4
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
To say you have faith without works is foolishness according to scripture because it is dead!
James 2:15-17 "If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,","And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?","Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone."
So now I go back to the very first verse posted!
Ephesians 2:8-9
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Not of works, lest any man should boast.
So again, we are stilled saved by God's Grace, nothing more nothing less, it is a gift from God that he gave out of love to us, therefore it is not of ourselves, we did not come up with this grace and we can't earn it through our works lest any man should boast, the only way we can access this Grace is Through our faith.
Now my question for you is what FAITH do you think this verse is talking about? The faith that is dead?, or the perfect faith that Abraham, Noah, Abel and many others had because they were obedient to God?
No matter how tall one makes the building of thought, however, it is no more stable than the premise it is built upon.
I am going to make this as simple for you as possible and only comment on the verse
Ephesians 2:8-9
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For by ("by" is the Greek definite article 3588 "ho" and it never means "by" in the sense we normally think of but means "by way of" and does in this case mean "of" as contrasted to "of yourselves") grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of ("of" is here the Greek preposition 1537 "ek" meaning "out of") yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Not of ("of" is the Greek preposition 1537 "ek" meaning "out of") is here works, lest any man should boast.
Now, you guys can be stubborn about this all you wish, but stubborn will not change he truth of what the scriptures really do teach and God will hold you accountable for your lack of humility to reason on these things. That is why he sent you help.
One thing, and one thing only, saves: John 6:63 "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
Don't deny that to your doom and worse yet, don't cause others to fall with you.
James 1:21 "Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls."
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Nice long post there.
No matter how tall one makes the building of thought, however, it is no more stable than the premise it is built upon.
I am going to make this as simple for you as possible and only comment on the verse
Ephesians 2:8-9
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For by ("by" is the Greek definite article 3588 "ho" and it never means "by" in the sense we normally think of but means "by way of" and does in this case mean "of" as contrasted to "of yourselves") grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of ("of" is here the Greek preposition 1537 "ek" meaning "out of") yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Not of ("of" is the Greek preposition 1537 "ek" meaning "out of") is here works, lest any man should boast.
Now, you guys can be stubborn about this all you wish, but stubborn will not change he truth of what the scriptures really do teach and God will hold you accountable for your lack of humility to reason on these things. That is why he sent you help.
One thing, and one thing only, saves: John 6:63 "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
Don't deny that to your doom and worse yet, don't cause others to fall with you.
James 1:21 "Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls."
No matter how tall one makes the building of thought, however, it is no more stable than the premise it is built upon.
I am going to make this as simple for you as possible and only comment on the verse
Ephesians 2:8-9
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For by ("by" is the Greek definite article 3588 "ho" and it never means "by" in the sense we normally think of but means "by way of" and does in this case mean "of" as contrasted to "of yourselves") grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of ("of" is here the Greek preposition 1537 "ek" meaning "out of") yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Not of ("of" is the Greek preposition 1537 "ek" meaning "out of") is here works, lest any man should boast.
Now, you guys can be stubborn about this all you wish, but stubborn will not change he truth of what the scriptures really do teach and God will hold you accountable for your lack of humility to reason on these things. That is why he sent you help.
One thing, and one thing only, saves: John 6:63 "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
Don't deny that to your doom and worse yet, don't cause others to fall with you.
James 1:21 "Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls."
Lol well I am really confused of what you're trying to say, please forgive me, but clearly I see what you wrote but i'm trying to understand your point? please help me to understand, thanks
Lol well I am really confused of what you're trying to say, please forgive me, but clearly I see what you wrote but i'm trying to understand your point? please help me to understand, thanks
The words of God give life because they are from God. Nothing has changed about what God said in the OT about putting life on Israel's right hand and setting off death to their left hand and telling them that they must choose life that they keep on living. There that life was his commandments which the sin in man proved to render man incapable of keeping, not to teach us that we cannot keep law but that we need Christ to help us understand how to keep them. Thus the Old Law was said to be weak through the flesh as to it's usefulness apart from Christ teaching us how it is to be kept, by it's spirit which carnal man in his carnal mind could not comprehend. But now we have the mind of Christ to help us comprehend.
That is also why so many that try to get you to keep that old law by it's letter are actually telling you only how the carnal mind kept it. In Christ we keep it by spirit and it's spirit is God's love.
Christ was sent to us the Word of God meaning all of God 's words of life were rolled up in him not so that he could do it all for us, but so that we could see God's life-giving words in the form of living action: 1 John 1:1 "That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life"
They having seen then became matured into Christ to have those life-giving words flow from their bellies to share with others by way of their living example. Grace to grace, faith to faith, one image transferred to another.
John 4:10 "Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water."
John 7:38 "He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water."
God's words are called water even as Paul said, 1 Corinthians 3:6 "I have planted [the seed of the word], Apollos watered [with more words from God which have life in them]; but God gave the increase."
Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Well, it is certainly will being exercised freely.
Whose will were we created to obey?
And is that really logical that he gave us a choice to disobey but then destroys us for it?
Deuteronomy 32:5 "They have corrupted themselves, their spot is not the spot of his children: they are a perverse and crooked generation."
Whose will were we created to obey?
And is that really logical that he gave us a choice to disobey but then destroys us for it?
Deuteronomy 32:5 "They have corrupted themselves, their spot is not the spot of his children: they are a perverse and crooked generation."
Anyone can be Saved, it is the Grace of God that allows ANYONE to be Saved, no matter what they have done in the past. To be Saved is a gift from God, given to ANYONE who will receive it, they receive it through the Grace of God.
BUT, just because someone gets SAVED, does not mean they will remain in that condition. We ACTS 5 Annais and his wife believed the teachings they heard, and they did like all the others and went and sold their house and lands, but they kept back some of the money, they did evil.
It is written several times, that He that endures to the end shall be SAVED, so then you must endure to the end to remain SAVED. Many get SAVED, but fall away from the Faith, give up the free gift they recieved. Yes they were SAVED by GRACE, yet they did not remain in that GRACE. The seed by the wayside is a perfect example that Jesus gave us, notice that they believed (SAVED) but fall away for this reason or for that reason.
Anyone can be SAVED by the GRACE of God, that does not mean they will remain in that GRACE.
Anyone can receive the gift of Salvation, that does not mean they will keep that gift until the end.
Once Saved Always Saved is not Scriptural it is what men teach and not what the Word of God teaches.
Nobody deserves to be Saved, nobody can be good enough, or do enough good deeds to be SAVED. That is True. But once you accept His Free Gift of Salvation, now you are to have works, which reflect that you are SAVED. Faith and Works go hand in hand, NOT to get SAVED, but to remain in His Grace. He that endures to the end, shall be Saved, it would be in your best interest to figure out what it means to endure, would it not?
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BUT, just because someone gets SAVED, does not mean they will remain in that condition. We ACTS 5 Annais and his wife believed the teachings they heard, and they did like all the others and went and sold their house and lands, but they kept back some of the money, they did evil.
It is written several times, that He that endures to the end shall be SAVED, so then you must endure to the end to remain SAVED. Many get SAVED, but fall away from the Faith, give up the free gift they recieved. Yes they were SAVED by GRACE, yet they did not remain in that GRACE. The seed by the wayside is a perfect example that Jesus gave us, notice that they believed (SAVED) but fall away for this reason or for that reason.
Anyone can be SAVED by the GRACE of God, that does not mean they will remain in that GRACE.
Anyone can receive the gift of Salvation, that does not mean they will keep that gift until the end.
Once Saved Always Saved is not Scriptural it is what men teach and not what the Word of God teaches.
Nobody deserves to be Saved, nobody can be good enough, or do enough good deeds to be SAVED. That is True. But once you accept His Free Gift of Salvation, now you are to have works, which reflect that you are SAVED. Faith and Works go hand in hand, NOT to get SAVED, but to remain in His Grace. He that endures to the end, shall be Saved, it would be in your best interest to figure out what it means to endure, would it not?
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I would agree, and say we have the freewill to obey or disobey but please explain what Romans 7:13-25 means to you, as I just read it and would like to discuss it
but please explain what Romans 7:13-25 means to you, as I just read it and would like to discuss it
Then he uses the example of Law by a married woman, how she is an adultress if she marries another while her husband still lives but if he is dead then she would be free tomarry another and not be an adultress
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him (in other words we need to see our Husbands (The Law) as dead. [SUP]3 [/SUP]So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man. (this is where once we see the Law as dead to us and we dead to the law, then we are freed to marry another, (Jesus Christ) our Savior our Lord
So the law which is good has become death to me, but the Law itself is good, just when ever it flows through fleshit brings death because flesh is weak and can't perform the Law, so in essence we become dead to self and alive to God by the resurrected Christ married to Christ.
Foir the Law reveals our sinfulness nad that we are not worthy of God and that we need God all the time being focused on God and thankful for what he did for us
Romans 8:3For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh,
Then Pal goes on to explain that what a man does by the Law as he wants to obey he finds evil then present and taking him captive and anyone else captive to Law and since no man can obey 100% man under Law finds himself wishing to do good but just can't quite do it
Now going on to show us those that believe serve God in and with the hidden man of their heart, this would be the new you andthe Holy Ghost as one, but that he and all serve the Law of sin and death by and through the flesh, and concludes since he believes he is dead in the flesh as all are from God's vantage point via the cross that it is no longer him who does it it is the body of flesh that does it. And concludes with how he is saved and by whom only he is saved Jesus Christ.
Paul has been very clear through out Romans about believing by the death of christ at the cross we are dead to sin, our consciences purged by Jesus from all sin, cleansed, cleared, and alive to God by the resurrection, andwithout the resurrection we would be still in our sins, 1 cor 15 real clear on this point. Now all in conclusion Romans 8 and we now seek to the Spirit of God and no condemnation from God.
You know Romans 1-5 is wellrevealed of all this as truth, then Romans 6-8 is a recap of Romans 1-5
So this is what I see
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[h=1]Genesis 2:17[/h]Viewing the King James Version. Click to switch to 1611 King James Version of Genesis 2:17.
[h=2]But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.[/h]
[h=2]But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.[/h]