IF Money is the ROOT of EVIL, Then Why Use It Seeing What It Does To People?

[homwardbound]

Not true. Kids are born knowing neither good nor evil.

but the tendency is to be selfish when the rubber hits the road even if they act good, for this is what we are taught to be good and we learn to act it out. The true you,me and anyone is not what we do outwardly, the true us, anyone is what we do behind closed doors with no one else around
I used to go gulp alot!!!!!. Today is WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am just Thankful in all things trusting God to work out all things as God moves me. I agve upme and set out every dayto rememember this

"A man in the mirror" enlightening book

 

[homwardbound]

I understand what you are saying. I never said that money was evil, but that by doing away with it, we will get rid of all evil. Now "WHAT GOD HAS CLEANSED" is the people we are starving and left to the elements because of money dictating to us that these people are "common" and therefore unimportant.

Now if I can see where you are coming from, surely you can see my point of view. It's not like we have to build these people housing, it's already made and empty! 18 million in the U.S. ALONE. If you are looking for a sign from God sir, THIS IS IT! Clearly we see these things, but the world would rather discuss WHETHER THE SAMSUNG GALAXY IS BETTER THAN THE I-PHONE 5!???

God has given us the visible means to do better by all men, and we refuse to listen. There is enough for all to live free off of the land. The only problem man has to conquer in this is a means to get these things to the people, and SURELY technology can do these things for us!

Everything is against you all waking up and figuring this out. Why do you think so many movies come out putting "us against the machines" for? Entertainment? NO! From movies to books people like Zone are conditioned to believe and work against the truth.

We use gas and oil still simply because it is easily THE MOST PROFITABLE energy source. Technology has FAR SURPASSED THE NEED TO USE THESE.

Each submarine for the army has the capacity to blow the world up many times over. Money wise, the price of one with it's contents could virtually wipe out poverty. And we (those who are poor and not blessed in many eyes here on CC, excuse me) struggle to pay to keep roofs over our children's heads. But still there are 18 million homes to choose from if I'm kicked out of this one right? Just work harder next time!?

Nothing will change unless we change it. I believe this/

Okay, and I am not against free will for you, And my free will here is I am not called here where you are at. You've got a dream I see this, and I've got what I believe God has got for me to do, and it is not get involoved in this project of yuors or whoever is behind it. I have been sucked in to too many things here in this world, and have in the past taken my eyes off the Lord Jesus, and today am thankful for it all, how else would I have learned to trust God and God only in all things no matter what it may look like and Hope you are not offended but this is not for me
Eutopia, see it in the series Charmed. Quite an interesting take.
Thanks for your care in thius matter
Lover Homwardbound

 

[homwardbound]

The LOVE of money is the root of all evil, not money. Money is what God uses to reward us, it's human response oriented, like Pavlov's dog, but different

We are NOT to love it, we are to use it, as He intended, which is JUST like our talents, you know, the parable of the talents, whatever God's gifted you with, DON'T go hiding it in the dirt, USE it !!!

This is what I feel God wants us to understand of money , and, anything else, too, that becomes our 'love' instead of our love being for Him, which is Love, anyway, so, why are we even talking about money love ? IF you are hungry for money for the RIGHT reasons, then, God is going to give you MORE. Pure and simple. 'The parable of the talents' tells the truth, justamazing

God is our master, and we are the master of money, not money the master of us
Act our wages not our IQ's since all of us think we are so smart. Actually taught to be better than others by this world hmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

 

[homwardbound]

Yes I have! I have seen it. By my faith I have seen the city... It is a place in which you are no longer against the love I display here. Where we will hug each other, God having wiped all tears away! I see us all victorious, and that it why I too must present you all a chaste virgin.

The "Venus Project" is a name that you are giving power to. He simply named it that because of the area of Florida he resided in. I do not promote the "venus project", I support a better way of life. If I'd thought like you, we'd clash on the name of "Jesus" alone and you would LOSE that battle too. But this is not about those childish things, because I am not a child. I am a man and put those type of silly arguments behind me. It is a waste of my time arguing about the things we argue about while thousands more die every day.

Do we not have the power to change these things if Christ lives within us having been raised to sit forever more in God's favor? If so my lovely sister in Christ, STAND WITH ME.

We do not need to live like this any longer! And I speak to you because you know my language. And if you are poor then you know where I come from. And if you are hurt, then you know how I feel. And if you are scared then you should know that I am too. The body is surely weak, BUT I SAY TODAY, LET THE SPIRIT BE WILLING.


I love his idea as the city and lifestyle he sees lines up exactly with the bible . The city is sustained by the life of the planet, and truly then is the saying, "the leaves are for the healing of the nations" has come to past.

Please just be careful, and not be led astray, another Jim Jones, another one here and another one there. Let us go see pastor such and such oh WOW!!!!! where is anyone else like him, and I am so excited my Emotions are being used to convince me of Eutopia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Watch out you might get a mouth full of wax. God is not a god of huigh Emotional Euphoria. Rather realistic, seeing all the traps of this Human race doing to others what they ought not do. Just like in the day of Noah
I do not mean any offense to you, Please stop nad take a look from the outside as a spectator, and see reality for what really is going on here. It is all Great, fine, and dandy to want Eutopia, but the idea from human uses EMOTION(s) to derail other Humans been going on since the begining. Reality vrs emotion
Just a warniing to you from my heart in love

 

[justamazed]

but the tendency is to be selfish when the rubber hits the road even if they act good, for this is what we are taught to be good and we learn to act it out. The true you,me and anyone is not what we do outwardly, the true us, anyone is what we do behind closed doors with no one else around
I used to go gulp alot!!!!!. Today is WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am just Thankful in all things trusting God to work out all things as God moves me. I agve upme and set out every dayto rememember this

"A man in the mirror" enlightening book

You are correct in that our true selves are what is on the inside, but children are not born selfish. They have to learn what selfish is by their parents or guardians, or by the environment around them. Now if today is "WOW" to you, seeing the senseless death and starvation around us, then to each his own. But I will fight for these people! I will give them a voice with POWER, and the Lord will not let me down.

 

[justamazed]

Okay, and I am not against free will for you, And my free will here is I am not called here where you are at. You've got a dream I see this, and I've got what I believe God has got for me to do, and it is not get involoved in this project of yuors or whoever is behind it. I have been sucked in to too many things here in this world, and have in the past taken my eyes off the Lord Jesus, and today am thankful for it all, how else would I have learned to trust God and God only in all things no matter what it may look like and Hope you are not offended but this is not for me
Eutopia, see it in the series Charmed. Quite an interesting take.
Thanks for your care in thius matter
Lover Homwardbound

You are involved sir because you yet draw breath. My eyes is fixed on the Lord. And He is homeless and starving as how we treat even the least of His brethren, is how we treat Jesus.

 

[justamazed]

Please just be careful, and not be led astray, another Jim Jones, another one here and another one there. Let us go see pastor such and such oh WOW!!!!! where is anyone else like him, and I am so excited my Emotions are being used to convince me of Eutopia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Watch out you might get a mouth full of wax. God is not a god of huigh Emotional Euphoria. Rather realistic, seeing all the traps of this Human race doing to others what they ought not do. Just like in the day of Noah
I do not mean any offense to you, Please stop nad take a look from the outside as a spectator, and see reality for what really is going on here. It is all Great, fine, and dandy to want Eutopia, but the idea from human uses EMOTION(s) to derail other Humans been going on since the begining. Reality vrs emotion
Just a warniing to you from my heart in love

There is no mystery to what I want friend. Whether willingly or by force of decision, I want those who name the name of Christ to stop paying bills and get organized in helping each other out. Together we can break the system around the world! But we live in a "monkey see monkey do" type of society, so it must be shown to them that we can indeed take power back.

 

[GreenNnice]

There is no mystery to what I want friend. Whether willingly or by force of decision, I want those who name the name of Christ to stop paying bills and get organized in helping each other out. Together we can break the system around the world! But we live in a "monkey see monkey do" type of society, so it must be shown to them that we can indeed take power back.

You HAVE all the power you need, His power, whatever He has you thinking, saying doing-by faith, through faith-is what you should be doing, otherwise, you are powerless. Help Him, do things, however, great or small tasks He asks of you, do them for His glory, without complaining, and, IF you think this world is too easy then YOU are doing something WRONG. The Enemy is going to ALWAYS attack us in our weaknesses as we go our Christian walk strong in God and God is going to TEST us, and, sometimes, like Job, He even allows the Enemy to do things but ONLY according to His will, the Enemy has NO control over us but what God allows. And, God will NOT allow us to be tempted beyond what we are able without providing us A WAY OUT , one of which we can bear

just amazed by all that said , don't be, ultimately, it is just His amazing grace

 

[justamazed]

Acts 2:41-47

[SUP]41 [/SUP]Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
[SUP]42 [/SUP]And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
[SUP]43 [/SUP]And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
[SUP]44 [/SUP]And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
[SUP]45 [/SUP]And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
[SUP]46 [/SUP]And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
[SUP]47[/SUP]Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

This is the plan in biblical terminology.

 

[homwardbound]

Acts 2:41-47

[SUP]41 [/SUP]Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
[SUP]42 [/SUP]And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
[SUP]43 [/SUP]And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
[SUP]44 [/SUP]And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
[SUP]45 [/SUP]And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
[SUP]46 [/SUP]And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
[SUP]47[/SUP]Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

This is the plan in biblical terminology.

Where is God's kingdom? here on earth or in heaven? Waht is Christ preparing for us in Heaven? So what is our purpose here on earth? Are we Citizens of this earth or Heaven? Are we to be representing what heaven or earth?

 

[justamazed]

Where is God's kingdom? here on earth or in heaven? Waht is Christ preparing for us in Heaven? So what is our purpose here on earth? Are we Citizens of this earth or Heaven? Are we to be representing what heaven or earth?

If the kingdom is within us, and we are on earth, then it is here among us.

 

[justamazed]

II quoted Scripture as to how the early churches behaved. We do this now, we change the world!

 

[follower2]

the Love of money is the root of all evil. and corrupt society run by greedy bigots who need more money to buy a bigger safe to put in their mansion. Charging insane amounts for things that shouldn't cost that much, as the price of things go up 10 fold while minimum wage stays the same.

As the people in power stop any major technological advancement from happening so we arent relying on these resources, so they can continue to sell them, and fill their pockets.
Dont have a clue what I'm talking about? I feel bad for you.

Almost makes you want to live alaskan frontier style, support yourself without money.

 

[justamazed]

the Love of money is the root of all evil. and corrupt society run by greedy bigots who need more money to buy a bigger safe to put in their mansion. Charging insane amounts for things that shouldn't cost that much, as the price of things go up 10 fold while minimum wage stays the same.

As the people in power stop any major technological advancement from happening so we arent relying on these resources, so they can continue to sell them, and fill their pockets.
Dont have a clue what I'm talking about? I feel bad for you.

Almost makes you want to live alaskan frontier style, support yourself without money.

It's not technology we should fear but our own imaginations in giving power to money in order to sell it instead of it benefiting all.

 

[follower2]

It's not technology we should fear but our own imaginations in giving power to money in order to sell it instead of it benefiting all.

I wasnt talking about fearing technology, technology is great, its the reason we can feed the poor in other countries, the reason I can read the bible at 11:00 pm on my laptop. The reason we can all talk about the gospel even though we are all thousands of miles away from each other.

I just meant that those alaskan frontier guys are self sufficient, they dont go to their job, instead they feed, and take after their cows, and build their own houses out of the trees around them, not relying on money.

 

[justamazed]

I wasnt talking about fearing technology, technology is great, its the reason we can feed the poor in other countries, the reason I can read the bible at 11:00 pm on my laptop. The reason we can all talk about the gospel even though we are all thousands of miles away from each other.

I just meant that those alaskan frontier guys are self sufficient, they dont go to their job, instead they feed, and take after their cows, and build their own houses out of the trees around them, not relying on money.

That's how all will live without money.

 

[joeyruready]

IF Money is the ROOT of EVIL, Then Why Use It Seeing What It Does To People?

I have read through more than half of these posts. Some of you even quoting scripture and not seeing the fallacy of the question asked. MONEY IS NOT THE ROOT OF EVIL and no scripture tells us it is. What the scripture says is clear:

1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

The love of money(I consider this to mean greed) is A ROOT, NOT THE ROOT; A ROOT.

A Root of what then? ALL EVIL??? That's not what I read. I read A ROOT OF ALL KINDS OF EVIL. The word here is misread if you perceive all to mean "all evil" rather that the intended meaning of many kinds.

A better representation in English of the meaning here is that "Greed is a root of many kinds of evils." This absolutely true. The love of money(greed) is a root of many kinds of evils. But let me ask a question. Can a person be greedy without being proud? That answer is no. A person can not be greedy without having pride. If they were not proud they would not have any ability to be greedy. Pride is the root of greed. Greed is a root of many kinds of evil but Pride is the root of all evil. IT is written, before his downfall a mans heart is proud(not greedy). A man can be proud without being greedy. Any human being can think themselves better than others yet still be honest and fair in dealing with others. Pride without greed is possible yet greed is not possible without pride.

2 Chronicles 26:16 But after Uzziah became powerful, his pride led to his downfall.

Psalm 10:4 In his pride the wicked man does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God.

Proverbs 11:2 When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.

Proverbs 13:10 Where there is strife, there is pride, but wisdom is found in those who take advice.

Proverbs 14:3 A fool’s mouth lashes out with pride, but the lips of the wise protect them.

Proverbs 16:18 Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.

Isaiah 13:11 I will punish the world for its evil, the wicked for their sins. I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty and will humble the pride of the ruthless.

I urge each of you to practice humility then God will indeed lift you up.

 

[FORHISGLORY]

Money isn't the root of all evil. "The love of money is the root of all evil."

 

[justamazed]

IF Money is the ROOT of EVIL, Then Why Use It Seeing What It Does To People?

I have read through more than half of these posts. Some of you even quoting scripture and not seeing the fallacy of the question asked. MONEY IS NOT THE ROOT OF EVIL and no scripture tells us it is. What the scripture says is clear:

1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

The love of money(I consider this to mean greed) is A ROOT, NOT THE ROOT; A ROOT.

A Root of what then? ALL EVIL??? That's not what I read. I read A ROOT OF ALL KINDS OF EVIL. The word here is misread if you perceive all to mean "all evil" rather that the intended meaning of many kinds.

A better representation in English of the meaning here is that "Greed is a root of many kinds of evils." This absolutely true. The love of money(greed) is a root of many kinds of evils. But let me ask a question. Can a person be greedy without being proud? That answer is no. A person can not be greedy without having pride. If they were not proud they would not have any ability to be greedy. Pride is the root of greed. Greed is a root of many kinds of evil but Pride is the root of all evil. IT is written, before his downfall a mans heart is proud(not greedy). A man can be proud without being greedy. Any human being can think themselves better than others yet still be honest and fair in dealing with others. Pride without greed is possible yet greed is not possible without pride.

2 Chronicles 26:16 But after Uzziah became powerful, his pride led to his downfall.

Psalm 10:4 In his pride the wicked man does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God.

Proverbs 11:2 When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.

Proverbs 13:10 Where there is strife, there is pride, but wisdom is found in those who take advice.

Proverbs 14:3 A fool’s mouth lashes out with pride, but the lips of the wise protect them.

Proverbs 16:18 Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.

Isaiah 13:11 I will punish the world for its evil, the wicked for their sins. I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty and will humble the pride of the ruthless.

I urge each of you to practice humility then God will indeed lift you up.

Is it a good thing nonetheless in doing away with money and thus alot of evil?

 

[joeyruready]

Once again, that is not what scripture says. It does not say, "The love of money is the root of all evil."

It says, " 1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs."

IN the end this post is pointless because the word also tells us, "Romans 16:19 Everyone has heard about your obedience, so I rejoice because of you; but I want you to be wise about what is good, and innocent about what is evil."

And as I said, practice humility and God will lift you up. You can be certain also God brings down the proud.
James 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
1 Corinthians 13:4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.