THAT WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF CHRIST SHALL BE SAVED."

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for now but what about after the rapture hey????????????????
 

Apostol2013

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THE BIBLE SAYS "THAT WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON
THE NAME OF CHRIST SHALL BE SAVED."
Rom. 10:13.
but realize and use logic of the word and your judgement solely to the word whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved then in like manner when a political refugee seeking refuge must abide by the rules of the country we must also in likeness take full abidance in the kingdom of heaven in full righteousness a fruit for thought i hope this was helpfull AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE SPARKS OF YOUR OPINIONS OVER THIS MATTER " AMEN

when i posted this thread i intended that the reader would get a deep definition of the matter i wanted to see how in tune with the spirit people really are as far as scripture as with also revealed knowledge in learning scriptures i first had to get in tuned in the spirit i fasted prayed very much i did away with who i was and everything i knew forsaking all manner of worldly living it was a time of total consecration to overcome the fleshly things as well as the wicked thinking to become unleaven in that matter it proved most effective in that time i got to learn scriptures really well to be an effective tool against the apostasy many get confused . as i observed in waring to not to war directly but to war against the evil one with the truth to the sakes of the elect for the glory of God through our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ . the mission to reveal the truth about our Lord jesus through the truth of scriptures and edify the church through direct knowledge . now i leave this subject for another day but now returning to the very subject in my studies i found an essential apart from having the heartbeat of God through his word and the revelation of the holy spirit i found that a deep definition to the word is essential in understanding fully the spirit of the Lord once told me i will increase your wisdom and you must have deep definition or deep meaning in all your words and actions I learned that our words have to align with our actions in with God althoufgh we be not so perfect the spirit of God strenghthens us in that spirit prayer using our tongues with utterance in graonings and crying even singing in the spirit we build strenghth along evenly with the word and alot of solitude that means alot of alone time with God now deep meaning in or actions and our words interpreted means that we are aligned with our heart mind body and soul to God let every one of our thoughts actions be to God alone far above our loved ones even ourselves that ws the sin of satan to love himself more than God .now lets look again
THE BIBLE SAYS "THAT WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON
THE NAME OF CHRIST SHALL BE SAVED."
Rom. 10:13.

when we call upon the lord we are recognizing him as the sovereign saviour believing that he will fullfill his promise of eternal life and that his blood on that cross has everlasting all power that is the gospel and the true spirit of prophesy i believe we all can agree on if we are christ based we come to him for refuge from our worries our aflictions and recognize we are dammed without him so we confess to him then we repent to him by showing good faith thus the water baptis the holy spirit baptism we build a relationship to the point that we walk after his mannerism to be immitators of Christ till his return we have been blessed with the holy spirit for strenghth comfirmation edification now the lord spoke to me once told me as i have taught when i was on earth time and time again these people honour me with their lips but their hearts are so far away now the second response he said was they say they love me but their actions say otherwise , Ihave experience so many wonderful things with the time knowing God and seen his wonders and miracles worked in my life He is wonderful and loves each and one of us when we call upon the lord we aknoledge him for who he is confess repent then his trust is earned and you are no longer servants but his friends i am happy to have known him and see my life nowhere else for the word says to keep our vision on the thoings above to heavenly things no mindless contradiction but to the edification of knoledge peace be unto you my bretheren amen
 
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A full transformation of who we are

Luke 9:62, "And Yahshua said to him: No man who puts his hand to the plow, then looks back, is fit for the Kingdom of Yahweh."

"And you must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might."
 

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yes like yeshua our lord said take up your matt and walk so then must we bear our cross and follow him denying ourselves
 

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The Greek title, Christ, is not used in any of the comparatives I derive from that great, free Bible Software, e-Sword. It is never a good practice to replace words in Holy Scripture without having studied at least the words Yahweh has used.

Rom 10:13


(ASV)
for, Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.


(CEV)
All who call out to the Lord will be saved.


(Darby)
For every one whosoever, who shall call on the name of the Lord, shall be saved.


(DRB)
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.


(FDB)
"car quiconque invoquera le nom du *Seigneur (Lord) sera sauvé".


(FLS)
Car quiconque invoquera le nom du Seigneur (Lord) sera sauvé.


(HNT)
כי־כל אשר־יקרא בשם יהוה(Yahweh) ימלט׃


(INR)
Infatti chiunque avrà invocato il nome del Signore (Lord) sarà salvato.


(IRL)
poiché chiunque avrà invocato il nome del Signore (Lord), sarà salvato.


(ISV)
"Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."


(KJV)
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.


(KJV+)
For[SUP]G1063 whosoeverG3956 G3739 G302 shall call uponG1941 theG3588 nameG3686 of the LordG2962 shall be saved.G4982 [/SUP]
[SUP](ROB)
Căci: "Oricine va chema numele Domnului (translated as Lord) se va mântui".


(SSE)
porque todo aquel que invocare el Nombre del Señor (Lord), será salvo.


(Vulgate)
omnis enim quicumque invocaverit nomen Domini (translated as Lord) salvus erit


(Webster)
For whoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.


(WNT)
For "EVERY ONE, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, WHO CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED."
[/SUP]
 
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says the meaning of the word, and a working knowledge of Soteriology.

What do you think the word means?
Show me a scripture that says that. I gave you one where Quickening relates to being saved by Grace. Eph 2:5

5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved )
 
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It's Grace that saves you. Not quickening.
Thats not what Eph 2:5 says. Show me a scripture that says its grace that saves you, not quickening.
 
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tannar

You think it's an insult to call a murderer a murderer.
No, if you have concrete evidence and can prove it to be true. But if you call someone a murderer and have no proof, yes its an insult and bearing false witness against thy neighbor.
 

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The Lord Yeshua our Hamashiach ( Jesus Christ ) his name comes from the derivative of the name of yahweh ye meaning lord shua meaning salvation his name bearing Lord of Salvation Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
 
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Yes it is ! You insult people.

PPFFFTTTT YOU ARE INSULTING ME SAYING I AM INSULTING PEOPLE!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAaaaaaAAAAAAaaaaAAAAAA

If I say you are a man, that is name calling and insulting by your standards.

You will say, NO it's not insulting, I am a man.

Well they were being exactly what I said theyw ere being, what is the difference?

I'll tell you the difference, some people like to do things they know they shouldn't, if they can hide they are doing it and not get caught. When someone comes right out and names, it, even though they exhibited the behavior and can't deny it, nor take it back, they cry foul and pull the 3rd grade whiny gripes out.

I've answered why it wasn't name calling.

You can answer the answers, or just repeat yourself over and over.
 
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No, if you have concrete evidence and can prove it to be true. But if you call someone a murderer and have no proof, yes its an insult and bearing false witness against thy neighbor.


I proved my case. If I'm proven wrong, I'll make amends. I spoke what was obvious, empirical proof by what was witnessed. To say it's name calling, would be exactly the same as someone from westboro baptist church and their website godhatesfags.com came in here and whined that I said they were a bigot.

That's EXACTLY the same thing.

Now that person may be the SOLE MEMBER of that church who isn't a bigot, and then it would be well proven and documented how and why he isn't because of my being wrong. I can be wrong. I don't think they can afford to be wrong. Heck I've had to admit I'm wrong a hand fulla times in the short time I've been on this site. I don't think I see many willing to go there though.
 
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Thats not what Eph 2:5 says. Show me a scripture that says its grace that saves you, not quickening.


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When you can show me that 2:5, the verse posted, does not say you have been saved by Grace, get back to me. In the NASB that's exactly what it says, and the NASB is acknowledged to be the most accurate (if not blah reading) translation we have.
 
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Show me a scripture that says that. I gave you one where Quickening relates to being saved by Grace. Eph 2:5

5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved )

Last time I checked, the scriptures weren't a dictionary to offer definitions of words. Would you like to reconsider that request??? or do you not mind people sniggering at you behind your back?
 

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Quickened just means we have been joined together into the body of Christ by his grace , also that by his grace we are saved
 
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Quicken means "to give life"

Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Ephesians 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

Ephesians 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved; )

Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

1 Timothy 6:13 I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
 
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Last time I checked, the scriptures weren't a dictionary to offer definitions of words. Would you like to reconsider that request??? or do you not mind people sniggering at you behind your back?
How far shall you fall?
 
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Quickened just means we have been joined together into the body of Christ by his grace , also that by his grace we are saved
And, don't forget all this is 'through faith. :)


We are His workmanship and once His we WILL work, through His faith He has given us :)

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But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved. 6And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
 
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John 5:4 [TABLE]
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whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole ...
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Matthew 5:22

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[TD="class: s"]... But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall
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Mark 8:35

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[TD="class: s"]... For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his
life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it. ...
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Mark 9:37

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[TD="class: s"]... Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receives me: and whosoever
shall receive me, receives not me, but him that sent me. ...
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Matthew 23:18

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[TD="class: s"]... And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever
swears by the gift that is upon it, he is bound. ...
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Luke 17:33

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[TD="class: s"]... And whosoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but
whosoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him ...
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Matthew 23:16

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[TD="class: s"]... Woe unto you, you blind guides, who say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it
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Luke 9:24

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[TD="class: s"]... For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will
lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it. ...
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1 John 3:6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who ...

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[TD="class: s"]... Whosoever abides in him sins not: whosoever sins
has not seen him, neither known him. ...

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Matthew 16:25 For whoever wants to save their life will lose it ...
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[TD="class: s"]... For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever
will lose his life for my sake shall find it. ...
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Matthew 5:19

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men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever ...
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Matthew 5:32

... But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, except for the cause
of fornication, causes her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her ...


Whosoever = any one . Whoever so DESIRES .
 

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Once grace has covered us we have taken amnesty into the goverment of Christ and the rule of his goverment is righteousness 6 Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.

7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. The scepter of the kingdom is righteousness but be carefull that your citizenship dont get lost 4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels also here's another scripture 14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.

16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit sait h unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it. To abide in christ is to abolish all wickedness and love righteousness not the righteousness of our own precepts but the righteousness cording to the law of the Spirit in Christ 1 John 3

1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. note

12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.

14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren