Are we serving God or money?

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Matthew 6:29Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these.


Matthew 6
29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
 
May 15, 2013
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Matthew 6
29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
Numbers 11:6But now we have lost our appetite; we never see anything but this manna!”

Deuteronomy 8:3
He humbled you, causing you to hunger and then feeding you with manna, which neither you nor your ancestors had known, to teach you that man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of the Lord.

1 Timothy 6:8
But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that.

Hebrews 13:5
Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, “Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you.”

Isaiah 55:2
Why spend money on what is not bread, and your labor on what does not satisfy? Listen, listen to me, and eat what is good, and you will delight in the richest of fare.

Isaiah 58:11
The Lord will guide you always; he will satisfy your needs in a sun-scorched land and will strengthen your frame. You will be like a well-watered garden, like a spring whose waters never fail.
 
Aug 28, 2013
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Under the old covenant, part of serving God was giving Him money (10%), or the equivalent of money (Leviticus 27:30-32).
Sorry, but Leviticus 27:30-32 says nothing of giving God 10% of one's money. What it says is the seed of the land and the fruit of the trees are to be tithed. If one wants to buy back the tithe, that one can buy it back at 20% over the value of the tithe. In other words, if a farmer's tithe consists of a bushel of wheat, and he wanted to buy it back, he would first give it to the Levite. (one cannot buy back something that one has not sold or given away first) The Levite would then assess the value of the bushel of wheat. Say he assessed it at a value of 10 shekels of silver. The farmer could then pay the Levite 12 shekels of silver for the tithe.

Leviticus 27:31 And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof.

The livestock tithe in verse 32 could not be bought back.

So one might say that since God demanded money, serving God was one in the same as serving money. Remember that in the new testament, Jesus complimented the poor widow for contributing 2 mites because it was everything she had (Luke 21:1-4). Also remember Ananias and his wife Sapphira in Acts 5, who were killed for not giving all their money to the apostles. So it seems apparent that money has a lot to do with serving God because He gets pretty ticked-off when you don't pay-up. :)
God never demanded a tithe of money. Not sure where you are getting your info there, but it isn't from the Bible.

Ananias and Sapphira were not killed for not giving all their money to the Apostles. They were killed for lying to the Holy Ghost.
 
Oct 14, 2013
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Numbers 11:6But now we have lost our appetite; we never see anything but this manna!”

Deuteronomy 8:3
He humbled you, causing you to hunger and then feeding you with manna, which neither you nor your ancestors had known, to teach you that man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of the Lord.

1 Timothy 6:8
But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that.

Hebrews 13:5
Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, “Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you.”

Isaiah 55:2
Why spend money on what is not bread, and your labor on what does not satisfy? Listen, listen to me, and eat what is good, and you will delight in the richest of fare.

Isaiah 58:11
The Lord will guide you always; he will satisfy your needs in a sun-scorched land and will strengthen your frame. You will be like a well-watered garden, like a spring whose waters never fail.
[h=3]Isaiah 48:17[/h]King James Version (KJV)

17 Thus saith the Lord, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the Lord thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.

 
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Re: Gotta Serve Somebody

Look people, when it comes to money, thats where many jump ship. I mean its your money and you worked hard for it. Giving your money is the closest thing to human sacrifice and why God looks at it with the deepest sincerity. I mean thats forty hours of you life if not more. Now, when you give it is just as important as how you give it.

A sower went about to so and some seed fell here and some there, but only the seed that fell on good ground produced 30, 60, and 100 fold. If you give your money to a prosperity (word of faith) preacher. He just stole your money. If, you give to a preacher that preaches the cross and show the fruit of salvation. Then you have sown into good ground. But did you give with a malice heart or did you give it cheerfully.

Understand that satan is after the tithes and offerings, because he know that the church cannot operate with out money. Think about it, did you like the fact that lights were on, and the sound system worked, or in winter, did you like the fact that it was warm in the church. Do you like the fact that your church can provide food for the hungry. It is all made possible by your tithes and offerings.

So you don't want to do that, thats okay, because if you don't. God will go get a drunk out from under the bridge and bless him financially and put in his heart to give, so that His gospel will be preached.

If had the finance and didn't give a portion to the preaching of the gospel, I would fear standing before Him.
One can finance an organization doing business as a Church without bowing to the unScriptural monetary tithe requirement doctrine.

There is no evidence of the early Church being financed by money. Matter of fact, when all that had in common sold lands and houses, they laid the money at the Apostles feet and distribution was made to those who were lacking. The money was not used to finance a Church. Nor is it said that the Apostles kept 10% of that money for themselves.

The monetary tithe requirement doctrine is not found anywhere in Scripture and is therefore, extortion. Acquiring money through the misuse of Scripture through fear tactics and deceitful speech.
 

Elizabeth619

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Nowhere in scripture does it say it is a sin to be wealthy. That is a huge misconception. People should study more.
 
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If one ever wants to find standout examples in this world of serving money instead of God the number one place to look is at those who use scripture to induce obligation in others to part with their money
A good example would be the teachers of the monetary tithe requirement doctrine.

The doctrine is nowhere found in the Word of God. It was invented in the late 8th Century A.D., by the Catholic Church. The Protestant Churches began teaching it in the late 19th Century. The Baptists did not begin teaching it until the mid 20th Century.
 
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17 Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;
18 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;
19 Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life. 1 Tim 6:17-19

Nowhere in the bible does is say you cannot be wealthy. There are many passages that instruct the rich on how to be and not be haughty and not to depend on it for security. There is nothing sinful about wealth, but the lack of generosity and good deeds is the problem.

The Ethiopian Eunuch was one of the first converts. He was wealthy, and never once does it say he gave up his riches.
The Disciples also had money. Jesus told them just before His betrayal to go and buy swords. They must have had money, but Jesus did not rebuke them for having it.

There is nothing wrong with having money. The wrong is in the heart. If one is a lover of money, (greedy) then that is where the wrong lies... with the heart, not the money itself.
 

Elizabeth619

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The Disciples also had money. Jesus told them just before His betrayal to go and buy swords. They must have had money, but Jesus did not rebuke them for having it.

There is nothing wrong with having money. The wrong is in the heart. If one is a lover of money, (greedy) then that is where the wrong lies... with the heart, not the money itself.
Greed is the key word, and I know many that are poor who are greedy. They want things handed to them. They feel entitled to it without working for it. The poor can be just as greedy as the wealthy.
 
May 15, 2013
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God made solomn rich and promise to make us rich as long as we obey
Luke 16:11So if you have not been trustworthy in handling worldly wealth, who will trust you with true riches?

Matthew 6:20
But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.

Matthew 23:19
You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?



Matthew 19:23
Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 1:53
He has filled the hungry with good things but has sent the rich away empty.

Luke 6:24
“But woe to you who are rich, for you have already received your comfort.

Luke 8:14
The seed that fell among thorns stands for those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by life’s worries, riches and pleasures, and they do not mature.

Luke 16:25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony.


 
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Luke 16:11So if you have not been trustworthy in handling worldly wealth, who will trust you with true riches?

Matthew 6:20
But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.

Matthew 23:19
You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?



Matthew 19:23
Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 1:53
He has filled the hungry with good things but has sent the rich away empty.

Luke 6:24
“But woe to you who are rich, for you have already received your comfort.

Luke 8:14
The seed that fell among thorns stands for those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by life’s worries, riches and pleasures, and they do not mature.

Luke 16:25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony.


[h=3]Matthew 19:27[/h]King James Version (KJV)

27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?

 
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The Disciples also had money. Jesus told them just before His betrayal to go and buy swords. They must have had money, but Jesus did not rebuke them for having it.

There is nothing wrong with having money. The wrong is in the heart. If one is a lover of money, (greedy) then that is where the wrong lies... with the heart, not the money itself.
Luke 22:38The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.” “That’s enough!” he replied.

Matthew 16:11
How is it you don’t understand that I was not talking to you about bread? But be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”


 
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Luke 16:11So if you have not been trustworthy in handling worldly wealth, who will trust you with true riches?

Matthew 6:20
But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.

Matthew 23:19
You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?



Matthew 19:23
Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 1:53
He has filled the hungry with good things but has sent the rich away empty.

Luke 6:24
“But woe to you who are rich, for you have already received your comfort.

Luke 8:14
The seed that fell among thorns stands for those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by life’s worries, riches and pleasures, and they do not mature.

Luke 16:25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony.


Matthew 19
27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?
28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.