Here is another passage for the law/sabbath keepers to explain away........

mpaper345 · Sep 1, 2014

We are to always obey the moral laws of God which is to love people and God and to do good but we do not have to obey the physical ordinances of Israel.

The Bible says if you are led of the Spirit you will not fulfill the desires of the flesh and if you are born of God you cannot sin if you are led of the Spirit,because then you are doing the things of the Spirit and not the flesh.

When the Bible says if you are led of the Spirit you are not under the law it means if you are led of the Spirit you have your sins forgiven and you are not sinning so the law cannot touch you for prosecution.

We still have the capability to sin because we are still in the flesh but if we repent and do right we can get back in the Spirit.

If we are led of the Spirit the law cannot touch us for prosecution but if we are sinning then we are back under the law until we repent and do right and are led of the Spirit then we are not under the law again.

oldthennew · Sep 1, 2014

when I read that someone honestly thinks that they are without sin,
sinless, I cannot help but to be flabbergasted and drop my jaw!!!
can anybody relate???

I know that I am a sinner, born and bred, and I also know that Jesus Christ
has performed a miracle by not only dying for me and forgiving my PAST SINS,
but now The Father has delegated Him to sit on His right hand and intercede
for me, every time that I sin and go to Him in repentance for forgiveness.

from Christ's Love for us, He has created a system so that we may be forgiven
through 'repentance' every time we fail Him.

we can't do His JOB that He created for Himself, it's what He does,
it's His act of Pure Love.
our acts of pure love for Him comes in the form of trusting that He
is always right where He said He would be, doing what He said He
would do, and us doing what He told us we must do to be His own.

come on, even if we 'THINK' a wicked thought, we sin and are sinners!
I hate this, but it's a fact that we all have to deal with.

we are always 'over-coming' and putting away, (hopefully) sins that
keep us out of God's will.
so, by our progress (maturity) we see ourselves becoming the kind of perfection
that Christ wants us to be.
let us not nullify the' Doctrine of Over-Coming', let us embrace it and
give it our all and experience our victories and grow from Faith to Faith.
our victories through Christ not only brings unfathomable joys, but also
a confidence that we are not stagnating but growing in grace and Godly character,
and in the knowledge of Jesus Christ.'

let's not deny our Saviour's office of High Priest, let's praise Him for His
on-going, wonderful, intercession of love.

He's got my wife's and mine hearts, and we're going to do our very best
to bear fruit that He will be pleased with.

royalscot · Sep 1, 2014

JaumeJ said:

you have to prove the full law was given to a gentile. (acts 15)
and after 70 ad how can anyone follow the whole law with no temple. (stone)
history of the bible is there also,

15 "We are Jews by nature and not sinners from among the Gentiles;16 nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.17 But if, while seeking to be justified in Christ, we ourselves have also been found sinners, is Christ then a minister of sin? May it never be!18 For if I rebuild what I have once destroyed, I prove myself to be a transgressor.

BradC · Sep 1, 2014

JaumeJ said:

Perhaps you would like to explain this passage to make yourself a little more clearer on the subject. What do you think Paul is referring to when he says in (v.2) ...now made perfect by the flesh or dependence on the flesh? What does (v.3) mean to you, especially when it gives you a reference point of 'having begun in the Spirit' and then that which follows? Read (v.5) in the Amplified and tell us what you think.

Gal 3:1-9

O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.
5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Hear is the Amplified version, it may help you.

O you poor and silly and thoughtless and unreflecting and senseless Galatians! Who has fascinated or bewitched or cast a spell over you, unto whom—right before your very eyes—Jesus Christ (the Messiah) was openlyand graphically set forth and portrayed as crucified?
2 Let me ask you this one question: Did you receive the [Holy] Spirit as the result of obeying the Law and doing its works, or was it by hearing [the message of the Gospel] and believing [it]? [Was it from observing a law of rituals or from a message of faith?]
3 Are you so foolish and so senseless and so silly? Having begun [your new life spiritually] with the [Holy] Spirit, are you now reaching perfection [by dependence] on the flesh?
4 Have you suffered so many things and experienced so much all for nothing (to no purpose)—if it really is to no purpose and in vain?
5 Then does He Who supplies you with His marvelous [Holy] Spirit and works powerfully and miraculously among you do so on [the grounds of your doing] what the Law demands, or because of your believing in and adhering to and trusting in and relying on the message that you heard?
6 Thus Abraham believed in and adhered to and trusted in and relied on God, and it was reckoned and placed to his account and credited as righteousness (as conformity to the divine will in purpose, thought, and action).
7 Know and understand that it is [really] the people [who live] by faith who are [the true] sons of Abraham.
8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify (declare righteous, put in right standing with Himself) the Gentiles in consequence of faith, proclaimed the Gospel [foretelling the glad tidings of a Savior long beforehand] to Abraham in the promise, saying, In you shall all the nations [of the earth] be blessed.
9 So then, those who are people of faith are blessed and made happy and favored by God [as partners in fellowship] with the believing and trusting Abraham.

JaumeJ · Sep 1, 2014

We certainly may not look at the law and pick and choose. We look to Jesus, and He shows us which are to be followed. He is the Lamb of God for beginners, so which laws do you suppose He has taken care of here?

He teaches us nothing by entering the body will corrupt a person, but that which proceeds from a wicked heart of a man does corrupt; does this teach you anything?

Again, He teaches that He desires mercy and not sacrifice, and not to judge others lest we be judged by that same judgment. He gave mercy where the law required punishment, and this is the most telling and revealing of which laws are to be followed.

Yes, for many transgressions a person is worthy of death, but Jesus had company on the cross, the curse of the law, and that curse is punishment and death. The law is now completed, fulfilled, but the law will always be as long as the earth and sky are in existence.

Do not come back with having had the law as a tutor or guardian until Messiah, for had you had the law as such, you would know all the above, for the law points to Yeshua, Jesus.

I pray the Holy Spirit in all teaches these truths about our Salvation, Jesus, amen.

mpaper345 said:

JaumeJ · Sep 1, 2014

Is only part of the Word directed to us? If this is indeed the case, then Jesus Christ is only partly dedicated to our Salvation, for He is theWord.

royalscot said:

you have to prove the full law was given to a gentile. (acts 15)
and after 70 ad how can anyone follow the whole law with no temple. (stone)
history of the bible is there also,

15 "We are Jews by nature and not sinners from among the Gentiles;16 nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.17 But if, while seeking to be justified in Christ, we ourselves have also been found sinners, is Christ then a minister of sin? May it never be!18 For if I rebuild what I have once destroyed, I prove myself to be a transgressor.

JaumeJ · Sep 1, 2014

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to oldthennew again.

Thank you for the kind and clear message to all. It touches my heart, and it edifies me, and I believe all who read it and bother to understand what you have shared. God bless you, your wife, and all whom you hold dear, amen.

oldthennew said:

when I read that someone honestly thinks that they are without sin,
sinless, I cannot help but to be flabbergasted and drop my jaw!!!
can anybody relate???

I know that I am a sinner, born and bred, and I also know that Jesus Christ
has performed a miracle by not only dying for me and forgiving my PAST SINS,
but now The Father has delegated Him to sit on His right hand and intercede
for me, every time that I sin and go to Him in repentance for forgiveness.

from Christ's Love for us, He has created a system so that we may be forgiven
through 'repentance' every time we fail Him.

we can't do His JOB that He created for Himself, it's what He does,
it's His act of Pure Love.
our acts of pure love for Him comes in the form of trusting that He
is always right where He said He would be, doing what He said He
would do, and us doing what He told us we must do to be His own.

come on, even if we 'THINK' a wicked thought, we sin and are sinners!
I hate this, but it's a fact that we all have to deal with.

we are always 'over-coming' and putting away, (hopefully) sins that
keep us out of God's will.
so, by our progress (maturity) we see ourselves becoming the kind of perfection
that Christ wants us to be.
let us not nullify the' Doctrine of Over-Coming', let us embrace it and
give it our all and experience our victories and grow from Faith to Faith.
our victories through Christ not only brings unfathomable joys, but also
a confidence that we are not stagnating but growing in grace and Godly character,
and in the knowledge of Jesus Christ.'

let's not deny our Saviour's office of High Priest, let's praise Him for His
on-going, wonderful, intercession of love.

He's got my wife's and mine hearts, and we're going to do our very best
to bear fruit that He will be pleased with.

JaumeJ · Sep 1, 2014

All of the midirected Scripture you pasted has been addressed by me, and by many others who believe in obeying God. Nowhere in the Word are we taught to be lawless.

I think it is tme to begin to read those who have already replied to your interpretations of the Word.

BradC said:

Perhaps you would like to explain this passage to make yourself a little more clearer on the subject. What do you think Paul is referring to when he says in (v.2) ...now made perfect by the flesh or dependence on the flesh? What does (v.3) mean to you, especially when it gives you a reference point of 'having begun in the Spirit' and then that which follows? Read (v.5) in the Amplified and tell us what you think.

Gal 3:1-9

O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.
5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Hear is the Amplified version, it may help you.

O you poor and silly and thoughtless and unreflecting and senseless Galatians! Who has fascinated or bewitched or cast a spell over you, unto whom—right before your very eyes—Jesus Christ (the Messiah) was openlyand graphically set forth and portrayed as crucified?
2 Let me ask you this one question: Did you receive the [Holy] Spirit as the result of obeying the Law and doing its works, or was it by hearing [the message of the Gospel] and believing [it]? [Was it from observing a law of rituals or from a message of faith?]
3 Are you so foolish and so senseless and so silly? Having begun [your new life spiritually] with the [Holy] Spirit, are you now reaching perfection [by dependence] on the flesh?
4 Have you suffered so many things and experienced so much all for nothing (to no purpose)—if it really is to no purpose and in vain?
5 Then does He Who supplies you with His marvelous [Holy] Spirit and works powerfully and miraculously among you do so on [the grounds of your doing] what the Law demands, or because of your believing in and adhering to and trusting in and relying on the message that you heard?
6 Thus Abraham believed in and adhered to and trusted in and relied on God, and it was reckoned and placed to his account and credited as righteousness (as conformity to the divine will in purpose, thought, and action).
7 Know and understand that it is [really] the people [who live] by faith who are [the true] sons of Abraham.
8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify (declare righteous, put in right standing with Himself) the Gentiles in consequence of faith, proclaimed the Gospel [foretelling the glad tidings of a Savior long beforehand] to Abraham in the promise, saying, In you shall all the nations [of the earth] be blessed.
9 So then, those who are people of faith are blessed and made happy and favored by God [as partners in fellowship] with the believing and trusting Abraham.

royalscot · Sep 1, 2014

JaumeJ said:

who introduced, you to the true god. was it believing in jesus, or knowing there was a god.
yes or no answer did jesus raise from the dead,
16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
who introduced, you, to the true god, and the holy spirit. and what were the conditions.

cornelius was praying to god and got a vision, why did god, not give him the holy spirit then.(acts 10)
3 About the ninth hour of the day he clearly saw in a vision an angel of God who had just come in and said to him, "Cornelius!"4 And fixing his gaze on him and being much alarmed, he said, "What is it, Lord?" And he said to him, "Your prayers and alms have ascended as a memorial before God.5 Now dispatch some men to Joppa and send for a man named Simon, who is also called Peter;

with v34 to 43 he told him about jesus christ. etc
44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message.45 All the circumcised believers who came with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also.4

JaumeJ · Sep 1, 2014

My heart as broken. I did not kno any god. I locked myself in a room determined not eat or drink anything until I had satisfaction about there being or not being a benevolent God.

Viet Na was raging. A place called Biafra, a renegade potion of Nigeria, was held under seige. Children as today, were trated like unwanted animals.

My heart was broken, and I wanted to know if there was a God Wh is truly good, and if there was a good outcome to all the pain, suffereing and misery world-wide.

I payed petitioning the knowledg about the above, and calling upon Him as "You are Who you Are," if youare truly in charge of all of ths, and there is a good outcome to this horror of an age, I would like to know you, and perhaps serve you. If not then kill me now, for I guess I am better than You are.

He answerd me that night in a dream. I found months later how I got away with such a ridiculous prayer, that last part I mean. The following morning, knowing I had actually heard from the Maker of all that is, I was ecstatic, and talking to HIm in my mind all day, still not knowing Jesus Christ. Later that day, when I repented of the works of the World and my own endeavor, talking to Him still, I said, "You are It" He knew exactly what I was saying, and Wham! I was filled with the Spirit of God, and everything turned to light. Within days God brought me to His Son, and I have adored Jesus Christ ever since.

If the above does not fit into your understanding, I am very sorry, for it is the truth, I lie not, amen.

just-me · Sep 1, 2014

Prove the truth with scripture and those that have set their minds and heart to understand no more will continue that way until the end of time. Then we won't be seeing through a glass darkly any longer, and we will know even as we are known. It also applies to "their" (possessive noun) worm that will never die. This comment is not pointed at anyone in particular. God knows the truth and depth of the heart, and its intent. If we quote scripture to back up what we say, we don't have to prove a thing.

just-me · Sep 1, 2014

JaumeJ said:

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to oldthennew again.

Thank you for the kind and clear message to all. It touches my heart, and it edifies me, and I believe all who read it and bother to understand what you have shared. God bless you, your wife, and all whom you hold dear, amen.

It's done and well deserved.

Apostol2013 · Sep 1, 2014

kennethcadwell said:

well i believe by my walk that we can reach a point of not sinning at least not intentionaly but if we do live according to the spiritual fruits and with the aid of the Holy ghost i believe we can be near perfect till that wich is perfect comes , but i agree overall on everything , but the issue is a filthy living life when immorality is a issue or murder , stealing etc just saying if one continues knowing the truth then there is no more remissions of sin , but to those knowingly to do good and continue not to them it is a sin . but if we pray and walk till the sppirit breaks that yolk , the Lord wants us wanting spiritual breakthrough , i tell you i am in love with my God ,so much so wich is so , that it is so much different than just loving God , and when you are in love there is nothing you wouldnt do to please Him , wich is the attitude we all need bringing in rememberance our First Love ...

Apostol2013 · Sep 1, 2014

JaumeJ said:

in actuality it magnifies the law to a complete spiritual level where all sin is outlawed , what i teach is this : if we live according to the spiritual walk we do not murder steal , hurt , adulter , fornicate in fact all sexual imorality is outlawed we will not hate for hate is as guilty as murder in fact the law is still used as a sin reference guide to identify sin minus the rituals , and as far as sabbath i believe it is a God ordained day even before the fall of man so i dont believe in vanquishing the sabbath but uphold it , but in no way is it treated like it states under moshe law that was instituted because of carelessnees or the peoples ignorance in no way do i just teach grace and truth covenant but i also teach moshe law , for it is a lovely learning truth on how it reveals the spiritual walk and christ and further sets example on leadership relationship betweeen the leadership and the care they must have for the people , "i tell you all scripture is good for learning reproof correction and instruction " but we must teach the difference in living by the spirit and the difference between Law , we as believers in christ haste and seek after righteousness without having to blink twice , what i am saying is what jesus quoted "unless your righteousness exceeds that of the pharisees and saudecees you in no wise enter the kingdom of heaven . Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. Gal 5:5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Gal 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
Gal 5:7 Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth?
Gal 5:8 This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you.
Gal 5:9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.
Gal 5:10 I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded: but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be.
Gal 5:11 And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased.
Gal 5:12 I would they were even cut off which trouble you.
Gal 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Gal 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Apostol2013 · Sep 1, 2014

but simply i put the scriptures supporting the doing away of the mshe law to institute the Spiritual Christ Law for indeed He came to establish it , i can go ot to new supporting this but commandment keeping is a given if one really is in love with God ,mthis being our first love i am so pleased with my God in love , I cannot stop saying it enough but let our speech align with our actions for this is what the Lord really loves in us to be sincere .

RedTent · Sep 1, 2014

Apostol2013 said:

How can you actually say you are pleased with the spiritual law of Christ in one breath, the Christ who tells you to listen to Moses, and in the other say that you support what you actually call scripture!! telling you to do away with Moses in the very same post!!

Do you have faith in scripture or don't you have? You tell us your faith tells you not to have faith in the word, make up your mind!! The cross is telling us to repent and by saved by our faith, trust, and the grace Christ gives, and you say you are using that to have no trust and repentance is out by your faith in the cross. You contradict yourself.

Apostol2013 · Sep 1, 2014

RedTent said:

very much so I believe with all my heart , it would be easier to explain live than to do it on so limited text chat area this is not just some two dimentional study it is profound , for this you must learn all scripturas to cover so much which is why so many got confounded at Paul's letter for lack of understanding , the law of moses is good for learning but if we lived by the law then why Christ , because the law was a schoolmaster till Christ came , Christ came to establish an eternal law that will never perish and indeed delivers a promise of a better way . , the problem is everyone is used to traditions and that is what has been taught rather than sound doctrine , that we live by faith and that faith is in Christ of the spirit and no other the commandments are a given but it is not by the letter but by the spirit , love no no I'll to his neighbor in this we full fill the law and the prophets. The commandments wee hallways there but the moses structure is what is done away

just-me · Sep 1, 2014

RedTent said:

3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort [you] that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares , who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
5 I will therefore put you in remembrance , though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
Jude 1:3-5

Hebrews 11:23-30
23 By faith Moses, when he was born , was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king's commandment.
24 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter;
25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;
26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.
27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured , as seeing him who is invisible.
28 Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them.
29 By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned .
30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down , after they were compassed about seven days.

just-me · Sep 1, 2014

just-me said:

3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort [you] that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares , who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
5 I will therefore put you in remembrance , though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
Jude 1:3-5

Hebrews 11:23-30
23 By faith Moses, when he was born , was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king's commandment.
24 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter;
25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;
26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.
27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured , as seeing him who is invisible.
28 Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them.
29 By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned .
30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down , after they were compassed about seven days.

I had to bring this out proving that the law God gave to Moses is not at conflict with faith our the grace of God through Christ Jesus. It is only at conflict with those who are of a carnal mind.

BradC · Sep 1, 2014

JaumeJ said:

Do you really believe that having the Spirit and walking and being led by the Spirit is lawlessness and it is being disobedient to God? The obedience of the NT believer is dependent upon the conviction of the Holy Spirit. The believer hears and studies the word and doctrine, hides it in his heart, and through faith becomes a doer of the word under the new covenant of grace and truth. His obedience is not under the law but under grace through the specifics of categorical doctrine that resides in the rooms of his soul. When the believer is led by the Spirit in the plan of God the Spirit quickens the mind of that believer with the word to give the believer the mind of Christ in a situation. Let this mind be in you as it is in Christ Jesus.

JaumeJ are you there yet? If not, you need to catch up so that you can be filled with the Spirit. God wants us to be able to think with Him in the details of life and not get caught up in keeping the law. He wants us to live by every word as it is revealed to us by the Spirit so we can be not only Spirit taught, but also led by the Spirit in this life. Jesus was continually led by the Spirit and not the law. The disciples had to learn to be led by the Spirit and not according to the impulses of their flesh as they related to the law. The law of the flesh is what they needed to be delivered from as it related to keeping the law. Jesus called the disciples to be free from the bondage of sin that the law was responsible for strengthening in their life.

Jesus preached grace and truth and not the law. He came to orient people to grace and to have His faith through His mind and through the Holy Spirit. Jesus did not come to minister the law but to reveal himself through grace and truth. If you understood that you would carry on the way you do about the law and the commandments. You strive in your flesh all the time to keep the law and you do not want others to know just how much you strive. The more you learn about the law and try to keep it the more you become bound by it. Jesus came to set people free from the burden of the law and you are trying to keep what we have been set free from. You think because we are free that we are lawless but we are not, for we have the Holy Spirit who is much greater and of more glory than the law.

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