Shoud I ask a girl out?

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thank goodness I'm not one of your kids..lol.. I get enough flack on here wo getting blamed for somethin' i didn't even say. :eek:
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Gee whiz...tell me about it. I would have been real young when you were born and I probably would've really screwed up as a parent to you. :p. I'll rephrase it:

Lady Blue insinuated that I am wasting my time talking to you (Jason) because your pants are made from low thread count fabric and are very itchy, consequently causing you to argue incessantly over misguided over spiritualized assumptions about someone you know absolutely nothing about except that they don't wanna go to prom by themselves.
 
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Gee whiz...tell me about it. I would have been real young when you were born and I probably would've really screwed up as a parent to you. :p. I'll rephrase it:

Lady Blue insinuated that I am wasting my time talking to you (Jason) because your pants are made from low thread count fabric and are very itchy, consequently causing you to argue incessantly over misguided over spiritualized assumptions about someone you know absolutely nothing about except that they don't wanna go to prom by themselves.
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you lie, lie lie like a rug..lol.. i did not say that about Jason or his pants..lol :eek:
 
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I just wish people could learn to not take themselves so seriously. It's really okay to lighten up and have a sense of humor. I don't teach my kids biblical principles by bludgeoning them to death with scripture. I teach them by acting out my faith, sometimes by falling and getting back up and sometimes by instantaneous victories in Christ. Some people just wanna live with their heads in the clouds I guess. People like that quickly become people that you used to know.
 
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Jason0047 said:
What Does the Bible Say About Sex Before Marriage?
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There is no such thing! The act of sex consumates the marriage

Dt 22:28-29
28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
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I guess some of us have forgotten the old saying that actions speak louder than words. folks like j are so mis-guided that badgering people will keep them from sin. as you said, this is the function of the Holy Sprit.
 
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I guess some of us have forgotten the old saying that actions speak louder than words. folks like j are so mis-guided that badgering people will keep them from sin. as you said, this is the function of the Holy Sprit.
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Exactly. Badgering people with well meaning but relentless incessant religious lecturing is a recipe for sending people to iwantnothingtodowiththatland and even worse.....I've seen first hand, children who were raised that way into drug addiction, alcoholism etc etc.
 
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MarcR said:
There is no such thing! The act of sex consumates the marriage

Dt 22:28-29
28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
KJV
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Very true. The Scripture at the link I provided supports the same idea.
 
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Color me stupid but I was thinking the best and hoping the best for the OP. That he would go to prom with the beautiful girl, learn some relationship skills, build some confidence and have a great time. The idea that he wanted to go to prom to be naughty didn't even cross my mind until the resident holy spirit chimed in.
 
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Color me stupid but I was thinking the best and hoping the best for the OP. That he would go to prom with the beautiful girl, learn some relationship skills, build some confidence and have a great time. The idea that he wanted to go to prom to be naughty didn't even cross my mind until the resident holy spirit chimed in.
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If God brings a soul mate into a person's life, there is no need to build one's relationship skills. One will naturally do that thru just living life. In time, the fear of talking to women will go away because one is trusting in God and they are fearing him instead of anything or anyone else. They can be themselves in the Lord and be accepted by the one God sent to them. The world says you have to practice in dating until you get it right. Whereas God can simply match two people together from half way around the globe (If that is His will and purpose).

Second, to have a cavalier approach in dating is not smart. One does not just run with any person if they are a believer. For to ignore the dangers of what can happen at the prom and or even in dating is placing yourself into unnecessary harm or risk. You act like the worse case scenario can never happen. But it has happened and it will continue to happen.
 
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For what will you say to all the boys and girls out there who did not want to have a child because of the prom (But that is what happened)? What will you say to all the parents whose children are dead because they drank while driving at the prom? I am sure they will have some words for you.
 
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Jason0047 said:
If God brings a soul mate into a person's life, there is no need to build one's relationship skills. One will naturally do that thru just living life. In time, the fear of talking to women will go away because one is trusting in God and they are fearing him instead of anything or anyone else.
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There is not wise to become complacent with one's relationship skills in marriage. Why is there a fear in talking to a woman? I am surmising that by fearing God you mean to respect God and not to be afraid of Him.
 
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Jason0047 said:
For what will you say to all the boys and girls out there who did not want to have a child because of the prom (But that is what happened)? What will you to all the parents whose children are dead because they drank while driving at the prom? I am sure they will have some words for you.
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What will you say to all the parents of the kids who died from drinking and driving because they graduated high school? Are we going to outlaw a graduation ceremony? Or what about kids that die every day? Are we going to outlaw them leaving the house altogether?
 
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What will you say to all the parents of the kids who died from drinking and driving because they graduated high school? Are we going to outlaw a graduation ceremony? Or what about kids that die every day? Are we going to outlaw them leaving the house altogether?
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Unless you can cover every possible contingency of the bad things that may occur it may be wise to not ever let your kids out of the house less it may rain on them.
 
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jsr1221 said:
What will you say to all the parents of the kids who died from drinking and driving because they graduated high school? Are we going to outlaw a graduation ceremony? Or what about kids that die every day? Are we going to outlaw them leaving the house altogether?
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now, now. lets not bring logic and reasoning into the conversation. let's not use the brain that God gave us to make rational conclusions. let's just stand back and yell SIN HELL JUDGEMENT. this is what draws folks to Christ.
 
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tourist said:
There is not wise to become complacent with one's relationship skills in marriage. Why is there a fear in talking to a woman? I am surmising that by fearing God you mean to respect God and not to be afraid of Him.
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Fear is fear. A person cannot abide in unrepentant sin and think everything is okay with the Lord. There are many believers who think they are saved, but they are not saved. Perfect love casts out fear. Meaning, if you keep yourself in the love of God, then fear is cast out. For it is the fear of the Lord that we persuade men. Persuade them how? To respect God? No. To fear God. For Jesus says fear not him who can destroy the body but fear him who can destroy both body and soul in Gehenna (i.e. the Lake of Fire). This is not in the fact that we are afraid God will strike us down the instant we might sin (In every case). But we do have to realize that God has destroyed some believers who did commit certain sins, though (And they were not saved after he destroyed their bodies). In other words, most of the Christian world today looks at sin as if it was just some kind of big joke that we do not have to worry about. So any preaching against sin and or leading people away from potential sin is scoffed at and ridiculed (Which is the case with this thread).
 
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Jason0047 said:
Fear is fear. A person cannot abide in unrepentant sin and think everything is okay with the Lord. There are many believers who think they are saved, but they are not saved. Perfect love casts out fear. Meaning, if you keep yourself in the love of God, then fear is cast out. For it is the fear of the Lord that we persuade men. Persuade them how? To respect God? No. To fear God. For Jesus says fear not him who can destroy the body but fear him who can destroy both body and soul in Gehenna (i.e. the Lake of Fire). This is not in the fact that we are afraid God will strike us down the instant we might sin (In every case). But we do have to realize that God has destroyed some believers who did commit certain sins, though (And they were not saved after he destroyed their bodies). In other words, most of the Christian world today looks at sin as if it was just some kind of big joke that we do not have to worry about. So any preaching against sin and or leading people away from potential sin is scoffed at and ridiculed (Which is the case with this thread).
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I haven't read every single post. But with "the potential of sin in this thread", can you show me where the OP has mentioned he wanted to do more than just go to a high school dance? I just came back from the store and there was potential sin there if I chose to look for it. Should I have not gotten food, then?
 
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Jason0047 said:
Fear is fear. A person cannot abide in unrepentant sin and think everything is okay with the Lord. There are many believers who think they are saved, but they are not saved. Perfect love casts out fear. Meaning, if you keep yourself in the love of God, then fear is cast out. For it is the fear of the Lord that we persuade men. Persuade them how? To respect God? No. To fear God. For Jesus says fear not him who can destroy the body but fear him who can destroy both body and soul in Gehenna (i.e. the Lake of Fire). This is not in the fact that we are afraid God will strike us down the instant we might sin (In every case). But we do have to realize that God has destroyed some believers who did commit certain sins, though (And they were not saved after he destroyed their bodies). In other words, most of the Christian world today looks at sin as if it was just some kind of big joke that we do not have to worry about. So any preaching against sin and or leading people away from potential sin is scoffed at and ridiculed (Which is the case with this thread).
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I will say one thing about you and that is that you are resilient and can obviously take a punch. I am sure that no one on this thread was condoning sin.
 
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I haven't read every single post. But with "the potential of sin in this thread", can you show me where the OP has mentioned he wanted to do more than just go to a high school dance? I just came back from the store and there was potential sin there if I chose to look for it. Should I have not gotten food, then?
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Certain people have weaknesses towards particular sins. Sexual sin is the most tempting. Even Dave admitted that there would be temptation within this thread if he took her out. Now, does that mean he is not capable of not sinning? Only God knows a person's heart and only He would know that answer. But if I knew a person who was overweight and they were struggling to lose pounds, I would not send him into a candy store if I knew he had a weakness for sweets. I would not place him into a potentially harmful situation for him. Also, sexual sin can lead to all manner of immediate problems rather than say buying the wrong thing at the grocery store one time. Having sex outside of marriage even just one time can lead to sexual disease, unwanted pregnancy, a pressure to marry (Because of pregnancy), and setting a bad example for your future children.
 
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Certain people have weaknesses towards particular sins. Sexual sin is the most tempting. Even Dave admitted that there would be temptation within this thread if he took her out. Now, does that mean he is not capable of not sinning? Only God knows a person's heart and only He would know that answer. But if I knew a person who was overweight and they were struggling to lose pounds, I would not send him into a candy store if I knew he had a weakness for sweets. I would not place him into a potentially harmful situation for him. Also, sexual sin can lead to all manner of immediate problems rather than say buying the wrong thing at the grocery store one time. Having sex outside of marriage even just one time can lead to sexual disease, unwanted pregnancy, a pressure to marry (Because of pregnancy), and setting a bad example for your future children.
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I don't know what passage, but it's like when Scripture says don't drink around those who struggle as it will cause them to stumble. I agree with you there. Same with someone trying to lose weight. You don't take them to a steak house. If Dave is any hesitant at all (which may be why he created this thread in the first place) then he should sit down before God and ask Him for guidance. Ask Him what He wants. If he feels God is telling him it's okay, then I see nothing wrong with it. If he is afraid he will stumble, then might want to bring it before God before doing anything in the first place.
 
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Jason,

Should Dave ask the girl to the Prom?
 
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