I, DiscipleDave, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed ... as long as it is not contrary to my personal religious beliefs or contrary to the teachings of that belief.
Thats not written in there though is it?
Or did you just add that in?
Or did you just add that in?
I dont know I didnt check, I am really bad at reading long oath type contracts after the first few lines
And I ask that because I mean if it was while you placed yourself in their service and under their authority (voluntarily subjecting yourself to their oath) you wouldnt have been dishonourably discharged if that was really added in there would you have?
But were you?
I actually forget whether you said you were or not, I have to go back and read
I actually forget whether you said you were or not, I have to go back and read
I cant compare marraige to the millitary , that just seems weird to do that.
Well, you know, the two becoming one flesh in something God ordained between a man and a woman where its not something you are discharged from.
I know a covenant is also used between a husband and a wife
Ecc 5:4 When thou vowest a vow unto God, defer not to pay it; for he hath no pleasure in fools: pay that which thou hast vowed.
Ecc 5:5 Better is it that thou shouldest not vow, than that thou shouldest vow and not pay.
Then Jesus said,
Mat 5:33Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
Mat 5:34-36 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
James 5:12 But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.
Wouldnt that be like stating a YES I will serve in the millitary or a NO I will not (or a yes or a no) but I refuse to swear an oath to do so?
Or even a YES I take this man (or this woman ) to be my husband/ wife (to marry) and be one flesh with (as before God) but I wont swear an oath or take a vow to do so?
Not that it much matters its still till death do us part (either way)
Speaks of the wife of a mans "covenant"
I really need to brush up on this stuff, this is not good I am sitting here exposing my ignorance like this lol
Ecc 5:4 When thou vowest a vow unto God, defer not to pay it; for he hath no pleasure in fools: pay that which thou hast vowed.
Ecc 5:5 Better is it that thou shouldest not vow, than that thou shouldest vow and not pay.
Then Jesus said,
Mat 5:33Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
Mat 5:34-36 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
James 5:12 But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.
Wouldnt that be like stating a YES I will serve in the millitary or a NO I will not (or a yes or a no) but I refuse to swear an oath to do so?
Or even a YES I take this man (or this woman ) to be my husband/ wife (to marry) and be one flesh with (as before God) but I wont swear an oath or take a vow to do so?
Not that it much matters its still till death do us part (either way)
Speaks of the wife of a mans "covenant"
I really need to brush up on this stuff, this is not good I am sitting here exposing my ignorance like this lol
When the Bible speaks about swearing to something, This is referring to a person defending themselves. How to explain?
A person whose no's are not no's and whose yeses or not yeses
I did not take that pencil.
I did not take that paper.
And i swear on my Mothers Grave, that i did not take that lamp.
Now notice that person did not say "I swear i did not take that pencil" or "I swear i did not take that paper" Because that person said "I swear I did not take that lamp" makes that person seem guilty on the other parts that they did not swear too. Everything you say, should be the Truth, you should not have to swear to prove you are telling the Truth, to defend yourself, that what you are saying is the Truth "I swear to God" opposed to what? Everything else you say is not the Truth. That is why True Christians are instructed to not swear at all, let you yes be yes and your no be no. be honest all the time, and you will not have to swear at all.
A person whose no's are no's and whose yeses are yeses
I did not take that pencil.
I did not take that paper.
I did not take that lamp.
And because people KNOW this person does not lie, and that this persons yes means yes, and that persons no means no, they believe that person as telling the Truth.
Responding to Post# 222