Did Jesus ride a filthy creature triumphantly into Jerusalem

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AngelFrog

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yaright said:
You have assumed that the nature of a creature that doesn't carefully consider the word of God is desired by God. How can God desire someone who will not abide in Him? Good@spell checking. Thank you, "A beautiful woman lacking discernment of the things of God is like a gold ring in a swine's snout." I'm not sure why you would be interested in this picture of yourself.
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Why thank you. I greatly appreciate it. Considering a pig, which is a highly intelligent and clean animal if given the proper space, that would be afforded a solid gold ring in her snout would be highly prized indeed. And that no doubt for her value as a highly intelligent and clean blessing for the pig farmer who was gifted by our Lord God the gift of plenty enough to afford said gold ring.

And you think that poorly worded proverb that you best look up to find the proper wording for next time, or let me correct you now to save you the trouble;Proverbs 11:22(ESV)Like a gold ring in a pig's snout is a beautiful woman without discretion.
That that is suppose to insult me? To the contrary my dear sir. Am I to exercise discretion and let you repeatedly post the errant spelling of peril? When you attempt to teach us your knowledge of the meaning behind God's word? You would prefer that you be left in your repeated spelling error state for what? So that you are completely misunderstood for it? Leading some to wonder what can you possibly intend to teach us when you don't know the scripture that spells it out for you as; pearl?

you elect to employ Proverbs 11:22 against this woman because I corrected your spelling? You'd have rather looked uneducated than to assume correction? What does scripture say about correction?

Have you read this one?
"Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but he who hates reproof is stupid." Proverbs 12:1(ESV)

Go with God.
 
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yaright

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yaright said:
I have to start with the nature first ( a matter of Law). The donkey is trained to be a servant (so are you). The donkey chews the cud, carefully considering it's food (so do you also carefully consider the word of God as food for your soul. The donkey is the least of the servants( so are you when the stronger are considered like the Apostles) There is greater strength in Oxen and horses. (all of this is part of the hidden language). Who ever sits in the seat of authority is the teacher/ruler. Remember the evil prophet who beat the donkey to go where the evil prophet should not have wanted to go? The angel stood in the way. In the New Testament the donkey and its foal were loosed (a sign of having been a servant) and Jesus was set on the donkey, a donkey's foal ( the place of authority in your life. There are two more parts to you. Put your left hand in front of you and shake it. Just do it, you'll see. What you just saw was the servant part of you (flesh) that does everything you ask it to do. The direction of your life changes when the authority of Christ is your teacher/ruler. One more part yet to consider, and this is very important. The foal. When you were born again, a child of God can be found within you. Many questions are answered with this law. The law reads, the sacrifice of a lamb to redeem the FOAL of the donkey. Jesus cannot take one with out also taking the other, but only the child (foal) is redeemed by the Lamb of God. There is parable language that states jesus rode 'them' into Jerusalem and gave His life. The wording is correct and is the fulfillment of the words of a prophet. But Law clearly states only the foal can be redeemed. Please be careful with this. This law is personally fulfilled in you the Day you repented of your sins and Jesus became your teacher.
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I am trusting the Spirit to show you the answer to this next question; How is it that it can be said Jesus rode triumphantly into Jerusalem and gave His life? This question is between you and Jesus.
 
KJV1611

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yaright said:
I have to start with the nature first ( a matter of Law). The donkey is trained to be a servant (so are you). The donkey chews the cud, carefully considering it's food (so do you also carefully consider the word of God as food for your soul. The donkey is the least of the servants( so are you when the stronger are considered like the Apostles) There is greater strength in Oxen and horses. (all of this is part of the hidden language). Who ever sits in the seat of authority is the teacher/ruler. Remember the evil prophet who beat the donkey to go where the evil prophet should not have wanted to go? The angel stood in the way. In the New Testament the donkey and its foal were loosed (a sign of having been a servant) and Jesus was set on the donkey, a donkey's foal ( the place of authority in your life. There are two more parts to you. Put your left hand in front of you and shake it. Just do it, you'll see. What you just saw was the servant part of you (flesh) that does everything you ask it to do. The direction of your life changes when the authority of Christ is your teacher/ruler. One more part yet to consider, and this is very important. The foal. When you were born again, a child of God can be found within you. Many questions are answered with this law. The law reads, the sacrifice of a lamb to redeem the FOAL of the donkey. Jesus cannot take one with out also taking the other, but only the child (foal) is redeemed by the Lamb of God. There is parable language that states jesus rode 'them' into Jerusalem and gave His life. The wording is correct and is the fulfillment of the words of a prophet. But Law clearly states only the foal can be redeemed. Please be careful with this. This law is personally fulfilled in you the Day you repented of your sins and Jesus became your teacher.
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Just for clarification, are saying that the flesh me is the donkey and the 2nd born me is foal?
 
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yaright said:
I have to start with the nature first ( a matter of Law). The donkey is trained to be a servant (so are you). The donkey chews the cud, carefully considering it's food (so do you also carefully consider the word of God as food for your soul. The donkey is the least of the servants( so are you when the stronger are considered like the Apostles) There is greater strength in Oxen and horses. (all of this is part of the hidden language). Who ever sits in the seat of authority is the teacher/ruler. Remember the evil prophet who beat the donkey to go where the evil prophet should not have wanted to go? The angel stood in the way. In the New Testament the donkey and its foal were loosed (a sign of having been a servant) and Jesus was set on the donkey, a donkey's foal ( the place of authority in your life. There are two more parts to you. Put your left hand in front of you and shake it. Just do it, you'll see. What you just saw was the servant part of you (flesh) that does everything you ask it to do. The direction of your life changes when the authority of Christ is your teacher/ruler. One more part yet to consider, and this is very important. The foal. When you were born again, a child of God can be found within you. Many questions are answered with this law. The law reads, the sacrifice of a lamb to redeem the FOAL of the donkey. Jesus cannot take one with out also taking the other, but only the child (foal) is redeemed by the Lamb of God. There is parable language that states jesus rode 'them' into Jerusalem and gave His life. The wording is correct and is the fulfillment of the words of a prophet. But Law clearly states only the foal can be redeemed. Please be careful with this. This law is personally fulfilled in you the Day you repented of your sins and Jesus became your teacher.
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The donkey has meaning. I have never considered it. So I am listening.
I don't get it,but am listening
 
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yaright

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popeye said:
The donkey has meaning. I have never considered it. So I am listening.
I don't get it,but am listening
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If you can touch the edges of understanding, you are being taught by the Spirit. Your wanting reveals to me the Spirit within you is willing and I find great joy in that. It isn't the creature. If you focus on that, it will seem unbelievable. There is a reason why it is written that we are to have dominion over the birds of the air, animals that walk on land and fish of the sea (watch) "according to each kind". All these creatures have a specific nature which you have begun to identify with. You have recognized this with animals like dogs. Have you recognized a nature that you would identify with, like guilt, or joy in friendship, the willingness to help? What was once so natural to you has now become something to understand, to carefully consider. The bible uses the language of creation (natures) to teach you the things which were once hidden from you. In other words, the things of God have a depth that a child would look up to when he or she wants to be held, wants to be shown and even express awe at the wonders hidden in our Father's eyes. Ask specific questions and you will start a course of learning because; as you speak, don't you also learn? What I have to share barely scratches the surface of the things our Heavenly Father can teach you. But as much as I am able, I am willing to give witness.
 
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KJV1611 said:
Just for clarification, are saying that the flesh me is the donkey and the 2nd born me is foal?
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As simply as you put it, yes. This answers what part of you can be redeemed, because it is written into law. Using the donkey says many things about your nature; who you are and why you are that way in God's sight. It would be an awful characterization to add cruel statements about this law and the language of creation. This is a pure language. it is not filthy.
 
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yaright

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KJV1611 said:
Just for clarification, are saying that the flesh me is the donkey and the 2nd born me is foal?
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I am trusting the Spirit to show you the answer to this next question; How is it that it can be said Jesus rode triumphantly into Jerusalem and gave His life? This question is between you and Jesus.
 
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Suffice it to say this allegorical interpretation of all Scripture is without Biblical warrant.
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9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
10 And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.
11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
13 And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?

33 And with many such parables(alegories) spake he the word unto them, as they were able to hear it.
34 But without a parable(alegory) spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.

That Jesus was so vain
 
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yaright

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Elin said:
Suffice it to say this allegorical interpretation of all Scripture is without Biblical warrant.
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If it is written into law, the language is indisputable when the evidence is fulfilled by Jesus. Your statement speaks of Jesus and the law as being without warrant. You will read it to others and not believe what you are saying. It is hidden from the world, because God gave witness and the world did not believe.
 
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In the Bible the donkey is a beast of burden (Gen 42:26) and a plower of fields (Is 30:24). But its main function is as a vehicle for rich and poor alike. But despite its widespread use by all, the donkey and the mule were a staple of ancient Near Eastern royal ceremony.

The royal associations of the donkey are behind Zechariah 9:9, a prophecy of Jerusalem’s king riding on an ass. Matthew 21:5 and John 12:15 cite this prophecy as having been fulfilled in Jesus’ entry into Jerusalem.

I don't have a problem with the OP's hypothesis so far. In fact, I'm reminded, in a sense, of all the many biblical numerologists that have come and gone over the years. As long as he keeps it in the realm of orthodoxy: fine.
 
KohenMatt

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I had a discussion with my 7 y/o daughter last night about this. I asked her if pigs were good animals. She said, "I think so, just for food." I asked what they were good for and she said, "To eat garbage." Then she told me that all animals were good and had a purpose.

Then she told me, "Birds are good because they're nice for people to look at, and because they eat things and then poop the seeds out somewhere else while they're flying."

Just thought I'd share some wisdom and humor from a small child.
 
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yaright

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AgeofKnowledge said:
In the Bible the donkey is a beast of burden (Gen 42:26) and a plower of fields (Is 30:24). But its main function is as a vehicle for rich and poor alike. But despite its widespread use by all, the donkey and the mule were a staple of ancient Near Eastern royal ceremony.

The royal associations of the donkey are behind Zechariah 9:9, a prophecy of Jerusalem’s king riding on an ass. Matthew 21:5 and John 12:15 cite this prophecy as having been fulfilled in Jesus’ entry into Jerusalem.

I don't have a problem with the OP's hypothesis so far. In fact, I'm reminded, in a sense, of all the many biblical numerologists that have come and gone over the years. As long as he keeps it in the realm of orthodoxy: fine.
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I am in agreement with your assessment; but please allow that even though the donkey was used for plowing to some extend, it was the least of the servants who had greater strength. And because of that strength, the ox by nature was able to provide more food. So too this is known among the nature of God's people. Yes, or King rode the foal of a donkey triumphantly into Jerusalem and gave His life. The use of the word TRIUMPHANTLY (I don't like enlarging letters because it looks like I'm yelling instead of emphasizing) speaks of Christ's work in your life, that the law was fulfill in you and all of God's people who were called by the word of God. Even Christian celebrate when another is saved by the blood of the lamb; The same type of celebration which is spoken of in the fulfillment of this law. The purpose of the sacrifice of the Lamb of God to redeem the foal of a donkey I have already given witness to on a personal level. I cannot argue the term 'ass' but for some it has a negative inflection, taking away from the intent of the language. But again, I want to reiterate that I am not against the use of the word 'ass' as long as the teacher ensures the truest form to this who are being taught. You have brought to light the use of the mule, which is by nature a stronger creature than the donkey; but I was not shown (please believe me) the use of the mule in the writing of this law. I was not intentionally leaving that teaching out; I know it has purpose; but I cannot help but to give witness of the things I've been shown. Concerning the things I have not been shown, I will not pretend or assert that I have been shown. There is so much more that I desire to understand; So daily I pray, "Give us this day our daily bread"
 
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KohenMatt said:
I had a discussion with my 7 y/o daughter last night about this. I asked her if pigs were good animals. She said, "I think so, just for food." I asked what they were good for and she said, "To eat garbage." Then she told me that all animals were good and had a purpose.

Then she told me, "Birds are good because they're nice for people to look at, and because they eat things and then poop the seeds out somewhere else while they're flying."

Just thought I'd share some wisdom and humor from a small child.
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Many of God's creatures are written into law and words of the prophets. The law was meant to teach us about natures that can be found within each of us. Some of those natures (if we don't have dominion over them) are the reason for the division between the person and God. I am well aware that when a person begins to worship Jesus, has taken on a better nature which is not against God's love. This is why it is written about Peter, when the vision of a sheet with all creatures on it, and some being unlawful for God's people; and at the same time gentiles were sent to Peter and they began to prophecy; that these two pictures represented what our Lord intended to teach Peter when He said, "What I have made clean, no man shall call unclean" The law itself reveals the natures of creatures, but when a person begins to have dominion over those natures because of his or her faith in Christ, that person is no longer under the law because of Christ's work in that person. I appreciate the humor. There are times when the teaching becomes pretty intense for the struggle to understand.
 
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KohenMatt

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KohenMatt said:
I had a discussion with my 7 y/o daughter last night about this. I asked her if pigs were good animals. She said, "I think so, just for food." I asked what they were good for and she said, "To eat garbage." Then she told me that all animals were good and had a purpose.

Then she told me, "Birds are good because they're nice for people to look at, and because they eat things and then poop the seeds out somewhere else while they're flying."

Just thought I'd share some wisdom and humor from a small child.
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EDIT.....I meant to type that she said,

"I think so, just NOT for food."

BIG difference there, so my apologies.
 
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yaright

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AngelFrog said:
Why thank you. I greatly appreciate it. Considering a pig, which is a highly intelligent and clean animal if given the proper space, that would be afforded a solid gold ring in her snout would be highly prized indeed. And that no doubt for her value as a highly intelligent and clean blessing for the pig farmer who was gifted by our Lord God the gift of plenty enough to afford said gold ring.

And you think that poorly worded proverb that you best look up to find the proper wording for next time, or let me correct you now to save you the trouble;Proverbs 11:22(ESV)Like a gold ring in a pig's snout is a beautiful woman without discretion.
That that is suppose to insult me? To the contrary my dear sir. Am I to exercise discretion and let you repeatedly post the errant spelling of peril? When you attempt to teach us your knowledge of the meaning behind God's word? You would prefer that you be left in your repeated spelling error state for what? So that you are completely misunderstood for it? Leading some to wonder what can you possibly intend to teach us when you don't know the scripture that spells it out for you as; pearl?

you elect to employ Proverbs 11:22 against this woman because I corrected your spelling? You'd have rather looked uneducated than to assume correction? What does scripture say about correction?

Have you read this one?
"Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but he who hates reproof is stupid." Proverbs 12:1(ESV)

Go with God.
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In all New Testament parables which Jesus gave for understanding the nature of the creature, and you remain steadfast in the things which Jesus spoke against? Just because you corrected a spelling error, doesn't make you a teacher of the hidden things of God. Once again, do you really lavish yourself in the nature of a creature that does not carefully consider the word of God?
 
MarcR

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I think the intent of the OP is to show the contrast between popular expectation and God's plan.

Both D-Con and Desired Haven saw it before I did; so I thought I might try to share it.

I think this contrast is [in reverse] what Satan uses to deceive people. Popular expectation often seems more appealing than God's plan; but, in reality is not.
 
tribesman

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MarcR said:
I think the intent of the OP is to show the contrast between popular expectation and God's plan.

Both D-Con and Desired Haven saw it before I did; so I thought I might try to share it.

I think this contrast is [in reverse] what Satan uses to deceive people. Popular expectation often seems more appealing than God's plan; but, in reality is not.
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Yes. And donkeys are not filthy, they are fun ha!

Let's be kind to the donkeys.
 
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