Did Jesus ride a filthy creature triumphantly into Jerusalem

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yaright

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Imagine the contradiction......a lowly man without any glory, comeliness, weakly and beggarly riding an ass into Jerusalem as opposed to the valiant Son of God, Conquering hero with all power and glory coming on a White Charger from heaven as King of kings and Lord of lords with his vesture dipped in blood........at the head of an army of Saints on white horses............good stuff for sure......
I love the intense counter diction of two worlds when I began to understand why Jesus was sent like a river of living water into a desolate place, and gave me life.
 
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phil112

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Correct. The unclean animals have their place. Just not in our mouths.
Are you saying you are too good to eat something the Lord has cleansed?

Acts 10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
 

KohenMatt

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Are you saying you are too good to eat something the Lord has cleansed?

Acts 10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
You and I disagree on whether or not God cleansed pigs for food.
 
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yaright

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I think the intent of the OP is to show the contrast between popular expectation and God's plan.

Both D-Con and Desired Haven saw it before I did; so I thought I might try to share it.

I think this contrast is [in reverse] what Satan uses to deceive people. Popular expectation often seems more appealing than God's plan; but, in reality is not.
It is often in the christian mindset, that those who hear the calling of the word of God, repent and begin to follow in the teaching of the One who said, "Follow Me" ; That they still appear filthy because of the carnal mind. And so the question begs to be answered by those who view those who are in the beginning of their walk; Are they filthy? Are we really that full of ourselves that we would question what Jesus is doing? Rumor mongers; Look at the sinners Jesus sits with!
 
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phil112

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You and I disagree on whether or not God cleansed pigs for food.
How many feet does a pig have?

And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
No, you disagree with the word of God. You refuse to accept the bible. That is completely foolish.
 

KohenMatt

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How many feet does a pig have?

No, you disagree with the word of God. You refuse to accept the bible. That is completely foolish.
That is a complete misrepresentation of what I believe, but you are welcome to your opinion as misguided as it may be.
 
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yaright

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Are you saying you are too good to eat something the Lord has cleansed?

Acts 10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
Even though your response is accurate, it is also written that we should not question what a man eats, because in their hearts the law remains until such a time as understanding comes. Your answer is appropriate for the purpose of teaching. To not eat pork will not save us; but understanding the purpose of the Law given through Christ, will. Jesus gave several parables that teach the nature of the swine and the man; but in none of those parables was not eating of pork mentioned.
 
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phil112

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Even though your response is accurate, it is also written that we should not question what a man eats, because in their hearts the law remains until such a time as understanding comes. Your answer is appropriate for the purpose of teaching. To not eat pork will not save us; but understanding the purpose of the Law given through Christ, will. Jesus gave several parables that teach the nature of the swine and the man; but in none of those parables was not eating of pork mentioned.
You simply don't recognize false doctrine nor understand what a believer's response to it should be.
matt is saying a pig is unclean and shouldn't be eaten. He didn't say that was the way he felt about it and if you think differently it's okay. He is presenting it as bible doctrine and that is a lie. The bible clearly says it's okay.
People that present lies for doctrine are to be opposed....or do you not realize that either?

Galatians 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
 
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phil112

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That is a complete misrepresentation of what I believe, but you are welcome to your opinion as misguided as it may be.
No, I gave scripture to refute your false doctrine. YOU are the one that presented pork as unclean. You keep on dismissing scripture as another's opinion. You won't like the end result of that.
 

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When Jesus touches us filthy sinners aren't we made clean? So much for donkeys.
 

KohenMatt

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No, I gave scripture to refute your false doctrine. YOU are the one that presented pork as unclean. You keep on dismissing scripture as another's opinion. You won't like the end result of that.
Again, you are welcome to your interpretation of that 1 particular scripture.
 
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If it is written into law, the language is indisputable when the evidence is fulfilled by Jesus. Your statement speaks of Jesus and the law as being without warrant. You will read it to others and not believe what you are saying. It is hidden from the world, because God gave witness and the world did not believe.
It's your hidden meanings that are disputable.
 

AngelFrog

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Thank God for the Christians ability to discern those who would presume to use the word to their own ends.

[h=3]Revelation 22:18 [/h][h=3][/h][h=3][/h] I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book,


[h=3]1 Timothy 4:1[/h][h=3][/h][h=3][/h] Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,
 
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phil112

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Again, you are welcome to your interpretation of that 1 particular scripture.
The word is plain. There can be no private interpretation, such as you are doing. Your interpretation is private, it isn't what the word says.
Ignorance is not knowing one is wrong, and stupid is knowing and being wrong in spite of that knowledge.
Scripture has been brought to you, and you can no longer claim ignorance. It's just me, but I would avoid appearing to be the second definition.
 

john832

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Are you saying you are too good to eat something the Lord has cleansed?

Acts 10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
You eat Gentiles do you?
 

john832

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The word is plain. There can be no private interpretation, such as you are doing. Your interpretation is private, it isn't what the word says.
Ignorance is not knowing one is wrong, and stupid is knowing and being wrong in spite of that knowledge.
Scripture has been brought to you, and you can no longer claim ignorance. It's just me, but I would avoid appearing to be the second definition.
OK, since we don't want a private interpretation, please show us where Peter says MEATS are cleansed and then eats them.
 

john832

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Even though your response is accurate, it is also written that we should not question what a man eats, because in their hearts the law remains until such a time as understanding comes. Your answer is appropriate for the purpose of teaching. To not eat pork will not save us; but understanding the purpose of the Law given through Christ, will. Jesus gave several parables that teach the nature of the swine and the man; but in none of those parables was not eating of pork mentioned.
Actually, the response is inaccurate.
 

KohenMatt

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The word is plain. There can be no private interpretation, such as you are doing. Your interpretation is private, it isn't what the word says.
Ignorance is not knowing one is wrong, and stupid is knowing and being wrong in spite of that knowledge.
Scripture has been brought to you, and you can no longer claim ignorance. It's just me, but I would avoid appearing to be the second definition.
And I would counter with the fact that there are far more Scriptures that plainly say God made pigs unclean as food, as opposed to your one verse that you think plainly says God made pigs clean for food.

I would rather go with a wealth of scriptures that points to a particular truth instead of trying to make 1 scripture present a truth that negates the others.

Fortunately, this isn't a salvation issue, and one that isn't worthy of some of the brash accusations you have made.
 
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yaright

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You simply don't recognize false doctrine nor understand what a believer's response to it should be.
matt is saying a pig is unclean and shouldn't be eaten. He didn't say that was the way he felt about it and if you think differently it's okay. He is presenting it as bible doctrine and that is a lie. The bible clearly says it's okay.
People that present lies for doctrine are to be opposed....or do you not realize that either?
You don't have to be heavy handed with someone who actually understands what you are saying. I am saying the I personally know that it is written we are not to judge what a person eats. Because if it is in his heart that it is wrong for him, than it would be counted as sin to him if he did what was unlawful for him.
 
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phil112

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You don't have to be heavy handed ...............
Sometimes you do have to. Sometimes you get sick and tired of seeing lies propagated.
Sometimes you get tired of seeing "christians" that can't understand plain doctrine. Sometimes you get tired of seeing people that should be sucking on a bottle of milk choking on strong meat.
the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.