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I apologize. And really ,if you saw me in person saying what I said. I would be holding your hands in mine and looking in your eyes saying ,"Rose, what I said was not about you and have I ever given you a reason for you to think it was about you?"
I need to take my own advice. I was STRICTLY responding to what Sirk said. I didn't pay attention to who he was responding to.
I honestly did not have you in mind when I responded Rose.
I need to take my own advice. I was STRICTLY responding to what Sirk said. I didn't pay attention to who he was responding to.
I honestly did not have you in mind when I responded Rose.
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Honestly Sirk, Because the freaks of religion have us convinced that we can't say a word that disagrees with them.
And it is a personal insult to disagree with them. And they have skin thickness of.......lets just go with no skin.
And we don't want to insult them, just get the truth to them and there has been a call to be impersonal on this forum. So people are trying to work it out. But it has been taken to the extreme of if you sneeze a lynch mob is ready for ya!
And it is a personal insult to disagree with them. And they have skin thickness of.......lets just go with no skin.
And we don't want to insult them, just get the truth to them and there has been a call to be impersonal on this forum. So people are trying to work it out. But it has been taken to the extreme of if you sneeze a lynch mob is ready for ya!
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Did you read what Sirk said here?
My comments make perfect sense, even as I explained them in post #193. I initially was one of Sirk's biggest supporters, if not his biggest supporter, in that I honestly initially believed the title of his thread to just be playful in nature and I personally believed that there was no malice intended on his part and I also certainly didn't laugh at Jason's or anybody else's expense. I simply just thought that the title was funny and basically a playful mockery of other thread titles which had been popping up and Sirk's initial responses here seemed to confirm my beliefs. As such, I came to his defense in that I felt that he was being overly judged and in that I've seen much more egregious offenses on this forum on a daily basis. My partial change of heart came when Sirk revealed that there was more to his motives than I initially thought there was and possibly even more than he was initially aware of himself. He said that he was going to bring everything before the Lord in prayer and I'm guessing that his final determination was based upon what the Lord showed him. After revealing the same to us, I merely told Sirk that I was saddened in that I believe that there are better ways to handle such situations than the way this one was handled. I didn't tell Sirk the same in any sort of holier than thou manner and I've repeatedly mentioned here and elsewhere that I've made similar mistakes myself and that my comments are meant for everyone, including me. All of this makes perfect sense to me, but you're certainly free to disagree.
I'm just going to briefly answer another post or two here and then I'm done with my own involvement in this thread.
By the way, I didn't criticize those who support him. I said some people here and not all people here. I stand by my conviction. Some people here seem to be of the dogpile on the rabbit mindset. In other words, when somebody is being cast in a bad light, they're in on it like white on rice. To me, that speaks volumes about what is in their hearts and there was a need to answer because your motives in asking your alleged rhetorical question aren't right in my estimation.
My comments make perfect sense, even as I explained them in post #193. I initially was one of Sirk's biggest supporters, if not his biggest supporter, in that I honestly initially believed the title of his thread to just be playful in nature and I personally believed that there was no malice intended on his part and I also certainly didn't laugh at Jason's or anybody else's expense. I simply just thought that the title was funny and basically a playful mockery of other thread titles which had been popping up and Sirk's initial responses here seemed to confirm my beliefs. As such, I came to his defense in that I felt that he was being overly judged and in that I've seen much more egregious offenses on this forum on a daily basis. My partial change of heart came when Sirk revealed that there was more to his motives than I initially thought there was and possibly even more than he was initially aware of himself. He said that he was going to bring everything before the Lord in prayer and I'm guessing that his final determination was based upon what the Lord showed him. After revealing the same to us, I merely told Sirk that I was saddened in that I believe that there are better ways to handle such situations than the way this one was handled. I didn't tell Sirk the same in any sort of holier than thou manner and I've repeatedly mentioned here and elsewhere that I've made similar mistakes myself and that my comments are meant for everyone, including me. All of this makes perfect sense to me, but you're certainly free to disagree.
I'm just going to briefly answer another post or two here and then I'm done with my own involvement in this thread.
By the way, I didn't criticize those who support him. I said some people here and not all people here. I stand by my conviction. Some people here seem to be of the dogpile on the rabbit mindset. In other words, when somebody is being cast in a bad light, they're in on it like white on rice. To me, that speaks volumes about what is in their hearts and there was a need to answer because your motives in asking your alleged rhetorical question aren't right in my estimation.
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Thanks Rose for your explanation.
I don't mean to dissect words, but I did have differing thoughts in my mind when I read the word responsible and I just did a quick Google search on the definition of that word and this is what came up:
re·spon·si·ble
rəˈspänsəb(ə)l/
adjective
adjective: responsible
I'm thinking that you were speaking of responsibility in relation to accountability and if so, then I fully agree with you. Ultimately, we're all going to be held accountable before God for that which we have individually done. My own involvement here falls more in line with the first definition given above. In other words, I do believe that Christians have an obligation to care for one another as in being their brother's keeper or helping to watch out for their soul even as one is watching out for their own soul. In my estimation, that would fall under the category of loving one's neighbor as one's self. In other words, if I've been convicted by the Lord that something is wrong in my own life, then it's quite possible that it's equally as wrong when somebody else does the same thing especially if the same motives were involved. I'm nobody's judge and I'm certainly not the forum's fruit inspector. Again, my own involvement here and on several other threads has been related to seeking to get everybody, myself included, to just put down their swords. Oh, not the sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God, but the swords which are regularly yielded here by some with which they seem to delight in trying to kill others.
Again, I thank you for clarifying your own comments and I've just sought to clarify my own beliefs, motives and actions myself.
Have a blessed day.
I don't mean to dissect words, but I did have differing thoughts in my mind when I read the word responsible and I just did a quick Google search on the definition of that word and this is what came up:
re·spon·si·ble
rəˈspänsəb(ə)l/
adjective
adjective: responsible
- having an obligation to do something, or having control over or care for someone, as part of one's job or role.
"the department responsible for education"
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[TR]
[TD="class: lr_dct_nyms_ttl"]synonyms:
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[TD]in charge of, in control of, at the helm of, accountable for, liable for "who is responsible for the prisons?"
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[/TABLE]- being the primary cause of something and so able to be blamed or credited for it.
"the gene was responsible for a rare type of eye cancer"
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[TD="class: lr_dct_nyms_ttl"]synonyms:
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[TD]accountable, answerable, to blame, guilty, culpable, blameworthy, at fault, in the wrong "if an error's been made, I'm the one who's responsible"
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[/TR]
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- being the primary cause of something and so able to be blamed or credited for it.
I'm thinking that you were speaking of responsibility in relation to accountability and if so, then I fully agree with you. Ultimately, we're all going to be held accountable before God for that which we have individually done. My own involvement here falls more in line with the first definition given above. In other words, I do believe that Christians have an obligation to care for one another as in being their brother's keeper or helping to watch out for their soul even as one is watching out for their own soul. In my estimation, that would fall under the category of loving one's neighbor as one's self. In other words, if I've been convicted by the Lord that something is wrong in my own life, then it's quite possible that it's equally as wrong when somebody else does the same thing especially if the same motives were involved. I'm nobody's judge and I'm certainly not the forum's fruit inspector. Again, my own involvement here and on several other threads has been related to seeking to get everybody, myself included, to just put down their swords. Oh, not the sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God, but the swords which are regularly yielded here by some with which they seem to delight in trying to kill others.
Again, I thank you for clarifying your own comments and I've just sought to clarify my own beliefs, motives and actions myself.
Have a blessed day.
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When people offer to us their advice or opinions, I believe that it is best to bring the same before the Lord so that He can either confirm the same to us or show us that there is no merit to what was suggested or something in between the two extremes. That's all that I was suggesting. In other words, that the Lord would either show Sirk that there was some validity to what I suggested or that He would just show Sirk to dismiss it. I wasn't speaking of some sort of outward sign. Merely confirmation or rejection of what I'd suggested at some point in time in relation to Sirk's own personal communion or fellowship with the Lord. You know, in times of prayer and things like that. No fleeces required.
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